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Posted: 5/15/2023 5:55:08 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Zam18th]
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There's definitely a flash there. |
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Posted: 5/15/2023 6:20:19 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Zam18th:
There's definitely a flash there. 
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Posted: 5/15/2023 8:41:11 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuote HistoryOriginally Posted By Chokey: Originally Posted By Zam18th:
There's definitely a flash there. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FwM2rKIWAAI5p5a?format=png&name=small I wonder what all is involved in certifying it. |
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Posted: 5/15/2023 9:29:17 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Zam18th: Cool. It unzipped pretty fast too. Problem solved. I wonder what all is involved in certifying it. I think it's more so the communication and initiating charge not so much the boom it is connected to. |
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Posted: 5/15/2023 10:41:38 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Obo2: I think it's more so the communication and initiating charge not so much the boom it is connected to. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Obo2: Originally Posted By Zam18th: Cool. It unzipped pretty fast too. Problem solved. I wonder what all is involved in certifying it. I think it's more so the communication and initiating charge not so much the boom it is connected to. The atfs exploded fine last time. The ship just didn’t explode when it activated. |
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Posted: 5/16/2023 7:37:58 PM EDT
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 YouTuber’s Question Helps Elon Musk Improve Starship |
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Posted: 5/16/2023 7:43:02 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryThis man is inhumanly pragmatic. |
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Posted: 5/16/2023 8:25:01 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TacticalGarand44: This man is inhumanly pragmatic. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TacticalGarand44: This man is inhumanly pragmatic. No kidding. |
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Posted: 5/16/2023 10:15:01 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TacticalGarand44: This man is inhumanly pragmatic. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TacticalGarand44: This man is inhumanly pragmatic. |
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Posted: 5/16/2023 10:57:17 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Obo2: I think it's more so the communication and initiating charge not so much the boom it is connected to. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Obo2: Originally Posted By Zam18th: Cool. It unzipped pretty fast too. Problem solved. I wonder what all is involved in certifying it. I think it's more so the communication and initiating charge not so much the boom it is connected to. That would make sense. Not sure why Elon said recertification would be the longest lead item of flight 2. Maybe just bureaucracy. |
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Posted: 5/16/2023 11:06:48 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Zam18th]
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NASA's Amit Kshatriya, deputy associate administrator for NASA's Moon to Mars program, spoke about Starship's test flight and how NASA and SpaceX are working well together ahead of the HLS missions. Key points: "We got a ton of data out of that mission" (Booster 7/Ship 24). HLS engaged with SpaceX and FAA post-flight. Got to see Raptor production and ECLSS (life support) work at Hawthorne. Still evaluating how many Tankers they'll need for HLS refilling. NASA is "very confident that SpaceX is open to our input and conversely." Comments made during the NASA Advisory Council Human Exploration and Operations. Not Starship but ISS missions will be RTLS now.
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Posted: 5/16/2023 11:10:47 PM EDT
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Posted: 5/17/2023 7:29:48 PM EDT
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Posted: 5/19/2023 12:42:06 PM EDT
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Posted: 5/19/2023 12:44:35 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AJE:
I bet Intel is interested in licensing the design for their next gen CPUs too!  Seriously though that's neat. The pace of this whole process over so many years is staggering. |
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Posted: 5/19/2023 12:53:39 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AJE:
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Posted: 5/19/2023 1:43:20 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Yobro512]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AJE:
Was about to post this. I started laughing my ass off when i saw this Surely this evaporatively cooled plate fighting 17MN of thrust idea must involve thousands of man hours of testing before testing. “Nah fuck it. Get a hose and steel with holes drilled in. Grab a raptor and blast that bitch. See what happens!” FUCKING LOL. |
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Posted: 5/19/2023 1:54:21 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Hesperus]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Yobro512: Was about to post this. I started laughing my ass off when i saw this? Surely this evaporatively cooled plate came 17MN of thrust idea must involve thousands of man hours of testing before testing. “Nah fuck it. Get a hose and steal with holes drilled in. Grab a raptor and blast that bitch. See what happens!” FUCKING LOL. Its an amusing and rather effective way of running things. |
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Posted: 5/19/2023 7:49:32 PM EDT
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https://www.space.com/nasa-selects-blue-origin-second-artemis-moon-lander
Burnt Orange got the second Lunar lander contract. The best part is they had to shave their bid down to 3.4billion. It won't surprise me if they have cost overruns and delays that tack on a few more billion. |
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Posted: 5/19/2023 7:54:03 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AJE:
Holy shit! That was a cool thing to see!!! |
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Posted: 5/19/2023 7:59:07 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Yobro512: Was about to post this. I started laughing my ass off when i saw this Surely this evaporatively cooled plate fighting 17MN of thrust idea must involve thousands of man hours of testing before testing. "Nah fuck it. Get a hose and steel with holes drilled in. Grab a raptor and blast that bitch. See what happens!" FUCKING LOL. I'll say late summer for the next Starship launch. Late August/early September. |
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Posted: 5/19/2023 7:59:34 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By mort: https://www.space.com/nasa-selects-blue-origin-second-artemis-moon-lander Burnt Orange got the second Lunar lander contract. The best part is they had to shave their bid down to 3.4billion. It won't surprise me if they have cost overruns and delays that tack on a few more billion. Nick |
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Posted: 5/19/2023 8:01:26 PM EDT
[Last Edit: elcope]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Yobro512: Was about to post this. I started laughing my ass off when i saw this Surely this evaporatively cooled plate fighting 17MN of thrust idea must involve thousands of man hours of testing before testing. “Nah fuck it. Get a hose and steel with holes drilled in. Grab a raptor and blast that bitch. See what happens!” FUCKING LOL. I love it. It's like the hillbilly rocket program. Looks like shit I'd do with my buddy Dan. ETA: 
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Posted: 5/19/2023 8:28:02 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Commando_Guy: Hasn't worked out so well for Boeing so far. NASA is not happy with them over their LEO capsule. Nick Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Commando_Guy: Originally Posted By mort: https://www.space.com/nasa-selects-blue-origin-second-artemis-moon-lander Burnt Orange got the second Lunar lander contract. The best part is they had to shave their bid down to 3.4billion. It won't surprise me if they have cost overruns and delays that tack on a few more billion. Nick |
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Posted: 5/19/2023 8:40:41 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By mort: Not like NASA can do anything about Boeing under-delivering... again. Congress controls where the money goes. After SpaceX won the HLS contract I was amazed how blatant Bezos's pet senator Maria Cantwell was lobbying congress for another 10billion so BO can build another moon lander. Has BO built anything other the the dildo? Ive never seen a photo of a new glenn, is it even physically assembled yet? |
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Posted: 5/19/2023 10:44:33 PM EDT
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Posted: 5/19/2023 10:58:38 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Orion_Shall_Rise: Has BO built anything other the the dildo? Ive never seen a photo of a new glenn, is it even physically assembled yet? The BE-4 engines on the Vulcan Centaur seem to be their main achievement so far. |
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Posted: 5/19/2023 11:00:38 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Grendelsbane: The BE-4 engines on the Vulcan Centaur seem to be their main achievement so far. That’s the joke…. |
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Posted: 5/20/2023 10:55:08 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Orion_Shall_Rise: Has BO built anything other the the dildo? Ive never seen a photo of a new glenn, is it even physically assembled yet? I have a friend who works there who claims to have seen it, and I trust her. That said, I'm I'll believe it can FLY when it DOES. |
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Posted: 5/20/2023 12:33:26 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ASUsax: I have a friend who works there who claims to have seen it, and I trust her. That said, I'm I'll believe it can FLY when it DOES. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ASUsax: Originally Posted By Orion_Shall_Rise: Has BO built anything other the the dildo? Ive never seen a photo of a new glenn, is it even physically assembled yet? I have a friend who works there who claims to have seen it, and I trust her. That said, I'm I'll believe it can FLY when it DOES. Nick |
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Posted: 5/20/2023 1:18:03 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Zam18th:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FwhQjBXWwAQVuJy?format=jpg&name=small Seeing the single engine test with the plate at close distance which appears to be the same as actual launch pad, I am really hopeful, that this relatively inexpensive add on saves the time and makes remote ground launch pads quicker and easier to build in the future. |
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Posted: 5/20/2023 2:07:53 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ASUsax: I have a friend who works there who claims to have seen it, and I trust her. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ASUsax: Originally Posted By Orion_Shall_Rise: Has BO built anything other the the dildo? Ive never seen a photo of a new glenn, is it even physically assembled yet? I have a friend who works there who claims to have seen it, and I trust her. IIRC, there have been some aerial photo from the Cape, showing glimpses of what looks like a mostly assembled Glenn inside their big building. They delivered the first BE-4 engines to ULA in late 2022, so presumably that means the BE-4 engines for Glenn are ready as well. |
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Posted: 5/20/2023 2:18:10 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Hesperus]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ASUsax: I have a friend who works there who claims to have seen it, and I trust her. That said, I'm I'll believe it can FLY when it DOES. Blue Origin has such a strange way of doing business. I think it says a lot when a company like Lockheed seems much more up front and talkative about aircraft with genuine classified ‘you get in big trouble for saying too much’ hardware than they are about... really anything it seems. Are we going to wake up one morning and find a New Glenn sitting on a pad halfway into a wet dress rehearsal? Rockets have their own lineages and for some reason, New Glenn reminds me of a seriously overgrown AIM-120. I don’t know why. They don’t even use the same fuel. They certainly don’t have the same purpose. And yet I sometimes find myself envisioning a space craft carrying 4 New Glenn’s as armament. 
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Posted: 5/20/2023 2:42:36 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By jhereg: One of the big differences between SpaceX and the old space companies. SpaceX expects to blow things up and destroy things. They're moving on fixing it right away. Traditional companies would spend 2 years analyzing it, 5 or 10 more years designing something new, and then another 5 or 10 years building it at 10* the original cost or more. To be fair, NASA relaunched within 2 years each time they killed someone. And Apollo was a complete redesign of the Command Module. |
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Posted: 5/21/2023 1:42:37 PM EDT
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Posted: 5/21/2023 5:04:38 PM EDT
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For second launch, we need another camera equipped minivan to provide proper, easy to relate to, launch pad damage assessment or lack thereof. A series of minivans located at various ground zero diameters would be best. Rather than arbitrary diameters, I suggest diameters be in multiples of Starship/booster height.
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Posted: 5/21/2023 5:08:01 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Houstons_Problem: For second launch, we need another camera equipped minivan to provide proper, easy to relate to, launch pad damage assessment or lack thereof. A series of minivans located at various ground zero diameters would be best. Rather than arbitrary diameters, I suggest diameters be in multiples of Starship/booster height. 
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Posted: 5/21/2023 6:56:03 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuote HistoryOriginally Posted By dmnoid77: Originally Posted By Houstons_Problem: For second launch, we need another camera equipped minivan to provide proper, easy to relate to, launch pad damage assessment or lack thereof. A series of minivans located at various ground zero diameters would be best. Rather than arbitrary diameters, I suggest diameters be in multiples of Starship/booster height. https://www.speednik.com/wp-content/blogs.dir/1/files/2023/03/storm-chasers-rely-on-diesel-power-when-mother-nature-strikes-2023-03-28_21-05-30_569652.png That's an RV..................  |
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Posted: 5/21/2023 11:28:59 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Hesperus: Blue Origin has such a strange way of doing business. I think it says a lot when a company like Lockheed seems much more up front and talkative about aircraft with genuine classified ‘you get in big trouble for saying too much’ hardware than they are about... really anything it seems. Are we going to wake up one morning and find a New Glenn sitting on a pad halfway into a wet dress rehearsal? Rockets have their own lineages and for some reason, New Glenn reminds me of a seriously overgrown AIM-120. I don’t know why. They don’t even use the same fuel. They certainly don’t have the same purpose. And yet I sometimes find myself envisioning a space craft carrying 4 New Glenn’s as armament. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Hesperus: Originally Posted By ASUsax: I have a friend who works there who claims to have seen it, and I trust her. That said, I'm I'll believe it can FLY when it DOES. Blue Origin has such a strange way of doing business. I think it says a lot when a company like Lockheed seems much more up front and talkative about aircraft with genuine classified ‘you get in big trouble for saying too much’ hardware than they are about... really anything it seems. Are we going to wake up one morning and find a New Glenn sitting on a pad halfway into a wet dress rehearsal? Rockets have their own lineages and for some reason, New Glenn reminds me of a seriously overgrown AIM-120. I don’t know why. They don’t even use the same fuel. They certainly don’t have the same purpose. And yet I sometimes find myself envisioning a space craft carrying 4 New Glenn’s as armament. Bezos Inferiority complex to musk means BO has to act mysterious so they don’t look incompetent with as much money and more time than spacex. NG was supposed launch in 21. I hope they kick ass but I have some doubts. |
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Posted: 5/22/2023 10:55:05 AM EDT
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Posted: 5/22/2023 11:08:30 AM EDT
[Last Edit: ASUsax]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Chokey:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FwvLXhKX0AEj5cK?format=jpg&name=large
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Posted: 5/22/2023 11:11:49 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AJE:
water flow afterward definitely seems decreased. |
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Posted: 5/22/2023 11:14:22 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Yobro512: Was about to post this. I started laughing my ass off when i saw this Surely this evaporatively cooled plate fighting 17MN of thrust idea must involve thousands of man hours of testing before testing. “Nah fuck it. Get a hose and steel with holes drilled in. Grab a raptor and blast that bitch. See what happens!” FUCKING LOL. I mean they could spend years and billions before testing only to realize the whole thing is fucked because of some unforeseen real world issue that would have been better solved with a much more simple solution... |
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Posted: 5/22/2023 11:17:04 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Orion_Shall_Rise: Has BO built anything other the the dildo? Ive never seen a photo of a new glenn, is it even physically assembled yet? pathfinder mockup  be4 engine on ULA Vulcan 
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Posted: 5/22/2023 2:32:55 PM EDT
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Posted: 5/22/2023 4:30:56 PM EDT
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Are they going to build a water tower to support all the water needed?
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Posted: 5/22/2023 7:26:55 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By The_Syndicate: Are they going to build a water tower to support all the water needed? That being... Horizontal tanks for the water, and Nitrogen to pump into them to force the water out and through the pipes quickly and forcefully. |
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Posted: 5/22/2023 8:15:45 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Master_of_Orion: If what they currently have doesn't end up working maybe... but lets see if their current solution works first. That being... Horizontal tanks for the water, and Nitrogen to pump into them to force the water out and through the pipes quickly and forcefully. Agreed. A relatively small amount of water precisely timed also helps with their limitations regarding runoff too. We would definitely already see the foundation if they intended to use a water tower for upcoming launches. |
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Posted: 5/22/2023 9:04:05 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Zam18th: Agreed. A relatively small amount of water precisely timed also helps with their limitations regarding runoff too. We would definitely already see the foundation if they intended to use a water tower for upcoming launches. The solution to run-off is to collect and recycle it for next launch. |
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Posted: 5/22/2023 9:09:40 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By HeavyMetal: The solution to run-off is to collect and recycle it for next launch. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By HeavyMetal: Originally Posted By Zam18th: Agreed. A relatively small amount of water precisely timed also helps with their limitations regarding runoff too. We would definitely already see the foundation if they intended to use a water tower for upcoming launches. The solution to run-off is to collect and recycle it for next launch. It would be, but they need environmental approvals to expand the site and build their proposed collection pond. So for now I think they'll keep it limited. |
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