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Posted: 5/22/2023 9:11:07 PM EDT
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Posted: 5/23/2023 2:27:15 PM EDT
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Posted: 5/23/2023 6:26:39 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Hesperus]
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I’m listening to the latest episode of the Aeon Byte podcast with this guy named Jason Reza Jordani who has always come across as a guy with a hyperactive mind with a severe shortage of wisdom and practical knowledge.
Listening to these guys speculate as to why we haven’t gone back to the moon in decades is hilarious. Reference is made to rockets ‘magically breaking down.’ “There’s another hydrogen leak. Damn pixies!” Oh and according to them the Chinese communists are in cahoots with the evil entities that rule the moon. |
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Posted: 5/23/2023 6:27:55 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Hesperus: I’m listening to the latest episode of the Aeon Byte podcast with this guy named Jason Reza Jordani who has always come across as a guy with a hyperactive mind with a severe shortage of wisdom and practical knowledge. Listening to these guys speculate as to why we haven’t gone back to the moon in decades is hilarious. Reference is made to rockets ‘magically breaking down.’ “There’s another hydrogen leak. Damn pixies!” Oh and according to them the Chinese communists are in cahoots with the evil entities that rule the moon.  Attached File |
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Posted: 5/23/2023 6:44:32 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By burnka871: /media/mediaFiles/sharedAlbum/confused-britney-spears--83.gif There reaches a point where some narratives are so utterly divorced from reality that wether you see thirty seconds of it, or three hours of it... It’s just not going to make any sense. So I suppose ones best option is just to laugh at what you’re seeing. 
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Posted: 5/23/2023 6:47:46 PM EDT
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OR, USA
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Posted: 5/24/2023 11:57:52 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Chokey:
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Posted: 5/24/2023 1:29:22 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By mort: Is that a Really Right Stuff camera mount? If so it really took a beating. RRS makes some good tripod accessories for long range shooting. Looks like a NEEWER or similar China brand |
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Posted: 5/24/2023 2:54:47 PM EDT
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Posted: 5/24/2023 4:47:16 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Hesperus: I’m listening to the latest episode of the Aeon Byte podcast with this guy named Jason Reza Jordani who has always come across as a guy with a hyperactive mind with a severe shortage of wisdom and practical knowledge. Listening to these guys speculate as to why we haven’t gone back to the moon in decades is hilarious. Reference is made to rockets ‘magically breaking down.’ “There’s another hydrogen leak. Damn pixies!” Oh and according to them the Chinese communists are in cahoots with the evil entities that rule the moon. Why waste your time with this bullshit? There's plenty of legit stuff to learn if you want to listen to science. |
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Posted: 5/25/2023 3:24:00 PM EDT
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Posted: 5/25/2023 8:56:43 PM EDT
[Last Edit: JoseCuervo]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Chokey:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Fw_vy1XaIAA8-qZ?format=jpg&name=large https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Fw_v0YpaYAAOa7f?format=jpg&name=medium https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Fw_v2KvaIAAjGMW?format=jpg&name=medium https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Fw_v4PfaQAEp0io?format=jpg&name=medium So undersized and blown open from rocketry forces with the cameras wherever, or undersized to someone with a crowbar and cameras stolen, on SpaceX property? |
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Posted: 5/25/2023 9:11:00 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By JoseCuervo: So undersized and blown open from rocketry forces with the cameras wherever, or undersized to someone with a crowbar and cameras stolen, on SpaceX property? Based on the latches you can see in the first and second pictures, I'd say rocketry forces. |
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Posted: 5/25/2023 9:50:17 PM EDT
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lol
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Posted: 5/25/2023 10:25:35 PM EDT
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Maybe they could slip me a million to pay off some bills?
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Posted: 5/25/2023 10:32:13 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By shooter_gregg: Maybe they could slip me a million to pay off some bills? We need to start a business to bid on cost plus contracts. |
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Posted: 5/25/2023 10:33:21 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By scul: Based on the latches you can see in the first and second pictures, I'd say rocketry forces. Copy, thankfully. 
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Posted: 5/25/2023 10:39:11 PM EDT
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Posted: 5/25/2023 10:52:15 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Zam18th]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Chokey:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FxBUNCIWwAIFXFK?format=jpg&name=orig I think it has to be related either to HLS, depot, or expendable variants because the cutouts continue around where the heat shield would be. Bring on the crow
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Posted: 5/25/2023 11:00:20 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Zam18th:
Being impatient. I’m just like, bros, it’s fucking good enough. Let’s get us some starship to orbit. Let’s get those raptors reliable. Sure 350bar is cool, but shit 270 is good enough, LFG. A single reusable starship that can launch 100 Tons to orbit a few times a month is more than enough. |
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Posted: 5/25/2023 11:01:44 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Chokey:
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Posted: 5/25/2023 11:05:17 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Zam18th: I know right. We need to start a business to bid on cost plus contracts. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Zam18th: Originally Posted By shooter_gregg: Maybe they could slip me a million to pay off some bills? We need to start a business to bid on cost plus contracts. Maybe call it blue origin or something |
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Posted: 5/25/2023 11:08:11 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Yobro512: Being impatient. I’m just like, bros, it’s fucking good enough. Let’s get us some starship to orbit. Let’s get those raptors reliable. Sure 350bar is cool, but shit 270 is good enough, LFG. A single reusable starship that can launch 100 Tons to orbit a few times a month is more than enough. I know you’re in a hurry, you aren’t the only one. But when Starship becomes operational it will bring about changes that will simply invalidate much of what most people thought the future would be. Heck just what’s happening with Falcon and Falcon Heavy is beyond what many can wrap their minds around. Someone once said that threads about the Shuttle turn into hate fests. Personally I think this is because the Shuttle could never possibly deliver on its promises. Falcon 9 and Heavy have delivered and in less than a decade we will have capabilities far beyond that. The rising ape... |
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Posted: 5/25/2023 11:08:56 PM EDT
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Original Blue.
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Posted: 5/25/2023 11:24:59 PM EDT
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Boe Origin
Does the plus in "cost plus" cover lawsuits against competitors? Asking for a friend.  |
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Posted: 5/26/2023 12:53:03 AM EDT
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Posted: 5/26/2023 3:57:03 PM EDT
[Last Edit: mort]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Furloaf: Maybe call it blue origin or something Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Furloaf: Originally Posted By Zam18th: Originally Posted By shooter_gregg: Maybe they could slip me a million to pay off some bills? We need to start a business to bid on cost plus contracts. Maybe call it blue origin or something Burt Orange Brown Orifice Blue Organ (my favorite because of the penis shaped rocket) Blown Onion Bad Origin Baked Oregano Body Odor Black Oppression Billable Obstructionists Bad Outcomes Bacon Oiler Bowel Offer Bleak Office Blatant Opportunists |
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Posted: 5/26/2023 6:43:08 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By mort: You can use any of the Gag names I've been using for BO in this thread. Burt Orange Brown Orifice Blue Organ (my favorite because of the penis shaped rocket) Blown Onion Bad Origin Baked Oregano Body Odor Black Oppression Billable Obstructionists Bad Outcomes Bacon Oiler Bowel Offer Bleak Office Blatant Opportunists Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By mort: Originally Posted By Furloaf: Originally Posted By Zam18th: Originally Posted By shooter_gregg: Maybe they could slip me a million to pay off some bills? We need to start a business to bid on cost plus contracts. Maybe call it blue origin or something Burt Orange Brown Orifice Blue Organ (my favorite because of the penis shaped rocket) Blown Onion Bad Origin Baked Oregano Body Odor Black Oppression Billable Obstructionists Bad Outcomes Bacon Oiler Bowel Offer Bleak Office Blatant Opportunists Blew Origin: "Because our rockets need lots of lip service" |
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Posted: 5/26/2023 8:34:03 PM EDT
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Posted: 5/26/2023 8:42:14 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Zam18th]
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Beat badly.
No idea why it didn't show up when I refreshed. Caching issue?
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Posted: 5/26/2023 8:46:38 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Chokey: video
Look at the interior windows in the control room about 1/3rd of the way through the video |
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Posted: 5/26/2023 8:50:58 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By RyanEsstac: Look at the interior windows in the control room about 1/3rd of the way through the video Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By RyanEsstac: Originally Posted By Chokey: video
Look at the interior windows in the control room about 1/3rd of the way through the video DAMN! Can I get some fries with that shake? |
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Posted: 5/26/2023 8:59:19 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By RyanEsstac: Look at the interior windows in the control room about 1/3rd of the way through the video Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By RyanEsstac: Originally Posted By Chokey: video
Look at the interior windows in the control room about 1/3rd of the way through the video that place is about 6 miles from the pad. |
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Posted: 5/26/2023 9:10:11 PM EDT
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Posted: 5/26/2023 9:41:17 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By kill-9:
2 months Elon time, so 4 months to the next flight? |
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Posted: 5/26/2023 10:36:48 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Zam18th]
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Anyone know for sure if Ship 25 has hydraulic or electric TVC? I think that, as Ship 24's sister ship, it is hydraulic but I'm not positive.
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Posted: 5/26/2023 10:40:18 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Zam18th: Anyone know for sure if Ship 25 has hydraulic or electric TVC? I think that, as Ship 24's sister ship, it is hydraulic but I'm not positive. If I'm not mistaken 24/ booster 7 was the last with hydraulic controls |
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Posted: 5/26/2023 11:24:30 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Zam18th: Anyone know for sure if Ship 25 has hydraulic or electric TVC? I think that, as Ship 24's sister ship, it is hydraulic but I'm not positive. I think they’ve been saying 24 was super old school hydraulic TVC which they are happy to get past. It’s 100% outdated. I don’t think they fly a hydraulic again. |
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Posted: 5/27/2023 12:08:55 AM EDT
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Posted: 5/27/2023 12:33:36 AM EDT
[Last Edit: Zam18th]
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The backup pair for B7/S24 was Booster 8/Ship 25. We know B8 had hydraulic tvc because they pulled the hpu off of it for B7. I don't think the electric tvc is used until the next generation B9/S26. But I'm not positive on the Ship so I'll look around and see if I can find anything definitive.
ETA: Best I could find
Referring to this tweet from a few months earlier.
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Posted: 5/27/2023 2:04:23 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 4q2]
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Deleted because I’m a dumbass and misread Elon’s tweet
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Posted: 5/28/2023 6:34:49 PM EDT
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 SpaceX Continues Rebuilding Starbase at Breakneck Speeds - Starbase Weekly Update #64 |
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Posted: 5/28/2023 6:55:52 PM EDT
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can someone help me?
so many groups seem to think that "fully and rapidly reusable" starship is just around the corner and there is no reason Tim Dodd wont be zooming around the moon in two years then landing at LC39a at KSP for a cost to MZ of like 20m dollars. I cant believe any "fully and rapidly" is anything but a MINIMUM of 10 years away, probably 15. Launching is to in depth. FAA is far to stingy to allow "rapid launches" for a long time. Mexico and the US will need extreme reliability guaranteed before starship is allowed to re enter and fly over land. just landing second stages at BC or FL is a lot of launches away. a single "both stages attempting to land" launch will probably cost <100m+ for a customer. we wont see anything close to single digit millions cost of launches for a while or damn near ever. look how long its taken to get just a F9 booster to like a month turn around. and understand orbital re-entry is far far far more intense and will likely require an order of magnitude more refurb investment. getting 150T to orbit for 200m 12x a year is a GAME CHANGING capability. it would change the future of humanity. we are compressing every possible stretch goal of starship down to 3 years from now. |
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Posted: 5/28/2023 7:20:18 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Zam18th: The backup pair for B7/S24 was Booster 8/Ship 25. We know B8 had hydraulic tvc because they pulled the hpu off of it for B7. I don't think the electric tvc is used until the next generation B9/S26. But I'm not positive on the Ship so I'll look around and see if I can find anything definitive. ETA: Best I could find
Referring to this tweet from a few months earlier.
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Posted: 5/28/2023 7:30:41 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By webtaz99: My guess is after seeing that entire stack spinning and falling, they won't bother to launch any more HPUs. The SpaceX recap video said next up S25 and B9. |
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Posted: 5/29/2023 4:58:25 PM EDT
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 Elon confirms New Starfactory Expansion - Starbase Flyover Update EP 3 (Narrated) |
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Posted: 5/29/2023 11:25:31 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Fulcrum-5]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Yobro512: can someone help me? so many groups seem to think that "fully and rapidly reusable" starship is just around the corner and there is no reason Tim Dodd wont be zooming around the moon in two years then landing at LC39a at KSP for a cost to MZ of like 20m dollars. I cant believe any "fully and rapidly" is anything but a MINIMUM of 10 years away, probably 15. Launching is to in depth. FAA is far to stingy to allow "rapid launches" for a long time. Mexico and the US will need extreme reliability guaranteed before starship is allowed to re enter and fly over land. just landing second stages at BC or FL is a lot of launches away. a single "both stages attempting to land" launch will probably cost <100m+ for a customer. we wont see anything close to single digit millions cost of launches for a while or damn near ever. look how long its taken to get just a F9 booster to like a month turn around. and understand orbital re-entry is far far far more intense and will likely require an order of magnitude more refurb investment. getting 150T to orbit for 200m 12x a year is a GAME CHANGING capability. it would change the future of humanity. we are compressing every possible stretch goal of starship down to 3 years from now. Yeah, there's a lot of breathless fanboyism that thinks SpaceX is going to be delivering full-capability Starship/Superheavy mission as soon as the first Starship lands back at Starbase. Obviously, that's not going to happen (for a variety of reasons). However..... There is a lot to be excited about. As has been noted, even non-reusable (read: "Errr....the reentry/landing bit is a bit harder than anticipated....") or only partially reusable (read: Superheavy lives to fly another day, but Starship still isn't sticking the landing).....is still instantly a game-changer. 100-150+ tons to LEO, for ~$100 Million (not counting payload).....is unreal. So Starship/Superheavy will, as soon as they manage to get Starship into LEO in one piece, begin changing what we are capable of. That's cool. Fully-reusable, semi-quick turnaround (not "daily flights of the same equipment set").....changes things even more. Possibly to the point where NASA might run out of payloads to offer for bid (or be encouraged to begin re-engineering payloads to be less costly/more capable, due to the more forgiving mass margins/$). I suspect that the Cape will see Starship launches almost immediately after the first one or two Starships reach LEO successfully (whether or not they reenter/land successfully). So that'll be a significant uptick in launch tempo. Manned Starship is still a ways down the road (well, NASA-manned Starship....who knows what SpaceX's internal risk acceptance is).....but probably not as far as some assume (STS-1 was basically man-rated by fiat, and the first live STS launch was also the first manned launch....so the "100 successful unmanned missions before it can be man-rated" is patently ridiculous). Axiom or Polaris (or someone new) will likely step in on that, if NASA proves gunshy. Dear Moon....IDK. There's a lot of non-rocket development needed for that (just the Life Support System alone....a dozen or so people, for a week, in a fairly large volume?). I don't see it happening before 2027 (WAG/ballpark). Certainly, SpaceX is going to be prioritizing anything Artemis-related over Dear Moon. |
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Posted: 5/29/2023 11:35:19 PM EDT
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So we plan on stopping by starbase for some photos tomorrow. Anyone know if there are any road closures? Tips about where you can and can’t go? Any other tips? Requests for certain pics?
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Posted: 5/29/2023 11:39:46 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Drugmanrx: So we plan on stopping by starbase for some photos tomorrow. Anyone know if there are any road closures? Tips about where you can and can’t go? Any other tips? Requests for certain pics? I'm curious about the new Masseys gun range. Supposedly moved not too far from the original property (that SpaceX bought) |
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Posted: 5/29/2023 11:48:26 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 1Andy2: I'm curious about the new Masseys gun range. Supposedly moved not too far from the original property (that SpaceX bought) If we have time I will try to swing by |
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