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Originally Posted By Chokey: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/F4J8KhAXsAAxXea?format=jpg&name=large View Quote That's a damn fine lookin rocket. Is it just me or do these things look better with every iteration? |
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Originally Posted By t75fnaco3pwzhd: That's a damn fine lookin rocket. Is it just me or do these things look better with every iteration? View Quote I don't care for the looks of the hot staging ring. Makes it look like a potential point of failure. Other than that, yeah. The chines look like they belong there and it's typical that a vehicle going through rapid design iterations looks more refined with every new version. As I keep saying. One of the most distinctive things about Starship is its looks. Especially compared to the Space Shuttle which, at least when sitting on the launch pad. Looked like a bunch of random stuff glued together. |
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“A real man does not think of victory or defeat. He plunges recklessly towards an irrational death. By doing this, you will awaken from your dreams.” -- Tsunetomo Yamamoto
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Chopsticks are moving into place now. Is it too windy for a lift today? Tropical Storm nearby and all?
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Scepticism is an exercise, not a life; it is a discipline fit to purify the mind of prejudice and render it all the more apt, when the time comes, to believe and to act wisely. -- George Santayana
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They are going to run out of room to lift the ship into it if it gets any taller.
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I've seen better riots at Walmart on a black Friday - SrBenelli
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got a bit of rain where I am at - looks like the depression went straight over them. Bet it was a wet night.
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Starbase Live: 24/7 Starship & Super Heavy Development From SpaceX's Boca Chica Facility |
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Originally Posted By Chokey: wonder why they're wrapped up https://pbs.twimg.com/media/F4Kzo24XYAEaqsj?format=jpg&name=large View Quote Attached File |
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Seriously... unTex the Mex..
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Originally Posted By DK-Prof: Since they have changed the design of the booster, I imagine they will have to do quite a bit of testing of the entire stack, once Starship is mounted on top - making sure they structure is strong, will hold when everything is fuelled up, etc. On the other hand, perhaps one full wet dress rehearsal will allow them to test all of that, so that might be all they need? The "new" way that SpaceX is doing stuff, is just so interesting! View Quote |
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View Quote There was a dedicated commentary stream: SpaceX Booster 9 Lifted onto the Orbital Launch Mount |
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Originally Posted By t75fnaco3pwzhd: That's a damn fine lookin rocket. Is it just me or do these things look better with every iteration? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By t75fnaco3pwzhd: Originally Posted By Chokey: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/F4J8KhAXsAAxXea?format=jpg&name=large That's a damn fine lookin rocket. Is it just me or do these things look better with every iteration? This is from page 12 of this thread |
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Originally Posted By Zam18th: I don't think so, I think ground testing is basically done. They put a test article through its paces at Massey's. They had to have confirmed it's strength because they aren't going to risk a full stack until they're confident that it can hold up to both propellant weight and liftoff forces. It would be too costly if it failed on the pad. I think at most we'll see a LN2/LOX load test prior to the WDR. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By Zam18th: Originally Posted By DK-Prof: Since they have changed the design of the booster, I imagine they will have to do quite a bit of testing of the entire stack, once Starship is mounted on top - making sure they structure is strong, will hold when everything is fuelled up, etc. On the other hand, perhaps one full wet dress rehearsal will allow them to test all of that, so that might be all they need? The "new" way that SpaceX is doing stuff, is just so interesting! That would be amazing. |
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“A real man does not think of victory or defeat. He plunges recklessly towards an irrational death. By doing this, you will awaken from your dreams.” -- Tsunetomo Yamamoto
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Originally Posted By Zam18th: I don't think so, I think ground testing is basically done. They put a test article through its paces at Massey's. They had to have confirmed it's strength because they aren't going to risk a full stack until they're confident that it can hold up to both propellant weight and liftoff forces. It would be too costly if it failed on the pad. I think at most we'll see a LN2/LOX load test prior to the WDR. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By Zam18th: Originally Posted By DK-Prof: Since they have changed the design of the booster, I imagine they will have to do quite a bit of testing of the entire stack, once Starship is mounted on top - making sure they structure is strong, will hold when everything is fuelled up, etc. On the other hand, perhaps one full wet dress rehearsal will allow them to test all of that, so that might be all they need? The "new" way that SpaceX is doing stuff, is just so interesting! The other thing is that Im sure they have a really good set of data from all the testing they have done on the booster and starship. IMO it would be much easier to add that hot staging ring that it would seem. -No internal pressure considerations or cryo considerations. -No need to make it thin to make room for anything -It is only structural, no other uses. The heat shield for the booster is the only consideration beyond "it has to hold up the starship" All it really has to be is a spacer between the mount points on the booster and the mount points on starship. Much easier than trying to add a tank or something. Add in a bit of mechanical testing and I could see them being really confident in their evaluation and estimates. |
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Originally Posted By DK-Prof: That would be amazing. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By DK-Prof: Originally Posted By Zam18th: Originally Posted By DK-Prof: Since they have changed the design of the booster, I imagine they will have to do quite a bit of testing of the entire stack, once Starship is mounted on top - making sure they structure is strong, will hold when everything is fuelled up, etc. On the other hand, perhaps one full wet dress rehearsal will allow them to test all of that, so that might be all they need? The "new" way that SpaceX is doing stuff, is just so interesting! That would be amazing. I found a pic of them getting set up for testing with the can crusher.
Originally Posted By notso: The other thing is that Im sure they have a really good set of data from all the testing they have done on the booster and starship. IMO it would be much easier to add that hot staging ring that it would seem. -No internal pressure considerations or cryo considerations. -No need to make it thin to make room for anything -It is only structural, no other uses. The heat shield for the booster is the only consideration beyond "it has to hold up the starship" All it really has to be is a spacer between the mount points on the booster and the mount points on starship. Much easier than trying to add a tank or something. Add in a bit of mechanical testing and I could see them being really confident in their evaluation and estimates. Good points. They have all the data from the unpressurized ship skirt and the top of the booster. They also have the data from the unpressurized booster aft section that has to take the weight of the full stack plus the thrust of the 20 outer engines. I think they're good to go. |
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Originally Posted By DK-Prof: Since they have changed the design of the booster, I imagine they will have to do quite a bit of testing of the entire stack, once Starship is mounted on top - making sure they structure is strong, will hold when everything is fuelled up, etc. On the other hand, perhaps one full wet dress rehearsal will allow them to test all of that, so that might be all they need? The "new" way that SpaceX is doing stuff, is just so interesting! View Quote they already tested the hot staging ring on the can crusher. It will experience more load during sep than anything it will see in launch or wet dress or even max Q I believe. |
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Originally Posted By AJE: This is from page 12 of this thread https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EBp2JLEXoAU9k31?format=jpg&name=large View Quote I remember when they abandoned carbon fiber and got to work in stainless steel. Those first few attempts left me saying, “really? Looks like a poorly made Buck Rogers prop.” Doesn’t look quite so low budget anymore. |
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Originally Posted By AJE: This is from page 12 of this thread https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EBp2JLEXoAU9k31?format=jpg&name=large View Quote hopper assembled with nosecone from page 3 |
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Road is closed.
Closure Schedule: Alternative Date Aug 23, 20233:00 pm to 3:00 amClosure Scheduled Primary Date Aug 24, 20238:00 am to 8:00 pmPossible Closure Alternative Date Aug 25, 20239:00 am to 9:00 pmPossible Closure Alternative Date Aug 28, 20238:00 am to 8:00 pmPossible Closure |
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SpaceX Booster 9 Raptor Engine Testing |
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Dupe
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Tom Sawyer.
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2 weeks, guess I need to get my Jeep ready to go watch another attempt. It is running good now - but I think I would enjoy the drive more with soundproofing and thermal insulation.
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Originally Posted By Chokey:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/F4O4ATcXIAEFgMV?format=jpg&name=large View Quote It'd be really impressive if they actually hit anything close to that date. At the time of the first launch, I think most people figured it'd be a miracle if they had a second launch at all before the end of this year. |
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I want to go see a launch SO BAD, but the logistics of getting the whole family there, when we live 6.5 hours from S Padre, for a date that may or may not be scrubbed, is very difficult.
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Know the feeling. I am 5hrs away. Went for the 5/19 launch. Got there at 8pm. Stayed up all night, only to have it scrubbed the last minute or so of the countdown. But while I missed seeing the launch - it was fun talking to people from all over the world who had come to watch it. I do not keep track of all the YouTube personalities, but a handful were there and other people enjoyed talking with them as well. I met one family that few in from Germany, and a decent sized group of Canadians. A number more that came for the East coast...
After the abort - I went back to my Jeep and took a 3hr (or so) nap as the parking lot cleared out. |
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So, August 31 like they predicted ?
Glad the FAA came through ! |
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It's a strange, strange world we live in, Master Jack
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If the enemy is range, so are you.
Don't mind Sylvan, he's fond of throwing intellectual Molotov cocktails. |
Originally Posted By Zam18th:
View Quote Last time 3 or 4 of the engines failed? I'm guessing they want to make sure they can get them all going? |
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Less than 10 minutes to go for live comment stream:
SpaceX Booster 9 Full Duration Static Fire |
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L0X tank about 4/5th full.
Starship Super Heavy Static Fire |
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It's a strange, strange world we live in, Master Jack
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SpaceX live now.
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It's a strange, strange world we live in, Master Jack
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Sounded like full duration. On replay it was at least 5 seconds or longer.
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There it is!
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Starship Super Heavy Static Fire |
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EP429: Today's lesson - Don't provoke ARFCOM. People will see your butthole.
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I like the steam vs dust.
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Seriously... unTex the Mex..
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Musk says successful on the tweeter!
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