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3/16/2010 1:23:11 AM EDT
Spring Food Crisis May Trigger Economic Collapse


http://www.homelandstupidity.us/2010...omic-collapse/



farmers across America and in many other parts of the world are calling 2009 the worst harvest they’ve ever seen – largely due to extended bouts of bad weather



January 7, 2010
By Michael Hampton



You have maybe two months to stock up on the necessities of life before food prices rise dramatically, potentially prompting a food panic, widespread famine, and quite possibly the long-expected collapse of the U.S. economy.


Farmers across America and in many other parts of the world are calling 2009 the worst harvest they’ve ever seen in their lives, owing largely to extended bouts of bad weather. At the same time the U.S. Department of Agriculture is officially forecasting bumper crops, while grain elevators stand nearly empty and close to three-fourths of the country’s farmland is in areas declared eligible for federal disaster assistance due to failed crops.
A popular farmers’ Web site is chock full of stories of entire crops of soybeans rejected for moisture damage, long delays in harvesting corn only to find out the corn is moldy, damaged or too light to be used as animal feed or even ethanol, and farmers unsure if they’ll even have a farm for another year due to the losses they’ve taken.

Most agricultural products are purchased in futures, which are promises to deliver a quantity of a commodity at a future date. Futures carry many risks, prominent among them the possibility that the commodity simply won’t be available at the promised delivery date. While futures prices are set by the market, some of the information used to set the prices comes from the USDA’s World Agricultural Supply and Demand Estimates reports. The unrealistic 2009 bumper crop predictions in its recent reports, which may have seemed reasonable months ago before 2009’s long string of bad weather but which USDA has failed to revise, drove futures prices artificially low.

But grain futures prices have already risen well above the USDA’s latest projections as the corn harvest threatens to drag on into March in some areas of the country, thanks to an unusually wet 2009 and unprecedented fall flooding in the Midwest.

The good news is that even with 2009 being the worst harvest in human memory, there will still be plenty of food in the U.S. to feed everyone in the U.S. The bad news — if you’re in the U.S. — is that the food won’t be used to feed everyone in the U.S.

It seems China has finally figured out what to do with all the U.S. dollars it’s holding. You’ll recall that the Federal Reserve took some pretty extreme measures over the last two years, ostensibly to save the U.S. economy. In fact, those measures have set us up the bomb. For decades China has been buying U.S. debt and financing Americans’ credit addiction as well as the government’s massive spending on millions of projects it has no business being involved in. But, it seems, they’ve had enough of the dollar and are about to pull the plug.

In the meantime, China has been using those dollars to buy every morsel of American food it can get its hands on. Combined with 2009’s bad weather and the USDA’s ridiculous numbers, this prompted a late August soybean shortage which is expected to continue through 2010.

The U.S. has a very good reason to fudge the numbers on crop estimates. If it published realistic numbers, and crop futures prices rose sharply, three things would likely happen: Wall Street would take massive losses, inflation fears would cause investors to dump bonds, frustrating the government’s attempts to finance its incredible expanding debt, and most importantly, China, whose currency is tied closely to the U.S. dollar, would allow it to appreciate. That alone would likely send the U.S. dollar into freefall; all three would mean utter economic collapse.

Of course, you can’t fool the market for long; as noted above, futures prices are already well above the USDA’s numbers. All they really managed to do with their numbers game was buy the U.S. dollar another year of life.

One market analyst believes that the 2010 food shortage will be the catalyst which not only brings about the collapse of the U.S. economy, but takes down Great Britain and Japan with it.

While a food crisis was unavoidable to some extent because of the abnormal weather and financial crisis, the total panic which will soon grip world agricultural markets is a creation of the USDA and its fictitious production estimates. If not for the USDA’s interference, food prices would have risen in the first half of 2009 in anticipation of the 2009/10 shortage. The United States Department of Agriculture has caused incalculable damage to the world economy by encouraging overconsumption of rapidly diminishing food supplies.

Once the 2010 Food Crisis starts, confidence in the US government will be shattered as a result of the USDA’s faulty estimates. The starvation and misery caused by higher food prices will also create a lot of anger . . . — Market Skeptics

In this scenario, rural banks will begin failing rapidly, especially in the Midwest, and the inevitable bailouts will drive up U.S. debt further. These bailouts, combined with the Chinese allowing the yuan to appreciate, will erode confidence in the U.S. dollar to the point that foreign banks and investors begin dumping U.S. debt at fire sale prices. At that point the Federal Reserve will have no choice but to print money, leading directly to hyperinflation.

I shouldn’t have to tell you what hyperinflation will look like, but in case you need a reminder, it will likely make the Great Depression look like a minor recession. Tens of millions of people who have never known want in their entire lives are going to be shocked to wake up broke and hungry, with no idea what happened or why it happened to them. The government will almost certainly be unable to fulfill its promises of food stamps, social security and other such welfare programs. Food riots are likely and people will almost certainly die when the government attempts to put them down.

Worst of all, almost nobody will assign blame where it truly belongs: central banks and fiat currency.

Market Skeptics and many other foreign investors I’ve seen quoted widely in foreign media but virtually never in the U.S., recommend investing in agriculture, except derivatives, and in precious metals. I also recommend you invest in as much nonperishable food as you can lay hands on in the next two months, at least a year’s supply if you can manage it. If there’s no collapse, you can eat it, and if there is, you’ll at least have something to eat. And when you read a headline such as “Yuan allowed to rise versus dollar,” it’s time to head for the hills.
3/16/2010 1:33:30 AM EDT
[#1]
So if it happens would it be a good time to point and laugh while I step over their starving ass at the people who said I am nuts for keeping a supply of food ?
3/16/2010 1:37:29 AM EDT
[#2]
Well, looking at the article date I'd say we're in the clear
3/16/2010 1:38:16 AM EDT
[#3]
Were doomed, weel never make it.    

lotta corn in the fields in snow last fall/ winter.    Ncentral IL.



Stock up on firewood,  a cow , a pig , rice .  Plant a good sized garden.  Buy generators, fuel.  

Shoot Zombies.  
3/16/2010 1:43:26 AM EDT
[#4]
I'm gonna go out on a limb here and call B.S.
3/16/2010 1:49:24 AM EDT
[#5]
Have you been to a Walmart lately?

It's not like 90% of Americans (and non-Americans) couldn't stand to actually cut back just a bit anyway.

3/16/2010 1:51:05 AM EDT
[#6]
Ben Richards: I said the crowd is unarmed! There are lots of women and children down there! All they want is food for-gods-sake!
Faceless commander: As you were Richards. Proceed with plan alpha. All rioters must be eliminated.
Ben Richards: The hell with you I will not fire on helpless people! Abort mission. We return back to base.
3/16/2010 2:05:44 AM EDT
[#7]
I hope it happens. I don't know about you guys but I can easily afford to miss a few meals. I would like nothing more than to go on the "Spring Food Crisis Diet" so I can finally get those six-pack abs...

And being the optimist I am, hopefully it will help negate the obesity problem...
3/16/2010 5:53:53 AM EDT
[#8]
Quoted:
Well, looking at the article date I'd say we're in the clear


That is what I was thinking.
3/16/2010 6:06:45 AM EDT
[#9]
Quoted:
Quoted:
Well, looking at the article date I'd say we're in the clear


That is what I was thinking.


You don't remember the massive food riots and famine and bodies filling the streets last week?  I thought everyone had heard.
3/16/2010 6:10:09 AM EDT
[#10]
Quoted:
You don't remember the massive food riots and famine and bodies filling the streets last week?  I thought everyone had heard.


There were no riots or bodies in the street because we've all turned to cannibalism....duh.
3/16/2010 6:12:11 AM EDT
[#11]
Quoted:
I'm gonna go out on a limb here and call B.S.


I'm with this guy.


BTW:  Have you been to Walmart lately?  Go stand by the front door for about 10 minutes.  Count the number of fat asses walking in and out.  Then come back and tell us about this food shortage again.
3/16/2010 6:12:13 AM EDT
[#12]
<Shrug>  At least around here, last year there were bumper crops.  I've never seen corn so tall, and soybeans bushes that were close to 3 feet tall.
3/16/2010 6:16:50 AM EDT
[#13]
Quoted:
So if it happens would it be a good time to point and laugh while I step over their starving ass at the people who said I am nuts for keeping a supply of food ?


Yes.

"people who stock pile food are crazy"
3/16/2010 6:20:53 AM EDT
[#14]
Quoted:
Quoted:
I'm gonna go out on a limb here and call B.S.


I'm with this guy.


BTW:  Have you been to Walmart lately?  Go stand by the front door for about 10 minutes.  Count the number of fat asses walking in and out.  Then come back and tell us about this food shortage again.


Walking, count the number of scooters you see because walking is for suckers.
3/16/2010 6:22:25 AM EDT
[#15]
3/16/2010 6:26:32 AM EDT
[#16]
Comment from the article


I work in at a grain facility, and we are stuffed full of grain. Not as
good quality as in previous years, but within acceptable limits. Maybe
you should do a little fact checking….but you’re just spewing fear
mongering bullshit, so I guess you don’t have to.





3/16/2010 6:31:10 AM EDT
[#17]
Quoted:
I'm gonna go out on a limb here and call B.S.



yep

3/16/2010 6:36:17 AM EDT
[#18]
Quoted:
Quoted:
So if it happens would it be a good time to point and laugh while I step over their starving ass at the people who said I am nuts for keeping a supply of food ?


Yes.

"people who stock pile food and crazy"


Yeah you're lucky, I couldn't find crazy at a good price over the winter.
3/16/2010 6:36:42 AM EDT
[#19]
Obvious BS is obvious.
3/16/2010 6:37:31 AM EDT
[#20]
Quoted:
Quoted:
Quoted:
So if it happens would it be a good time to point and laugh while I step over their starving ass at the people who said I am nuts for keeping a supply of food ?


Yes.

"people who stock pile food and crazy"


Yeah you're lucky, I couldn't find crazy at a good price over the winter.


Thats cuz I got it all
3/16/2010 6:48:16 AM EDT
[#21]
Nice "set us up the bomb" reference.



Also...



This could be worse than Y2K.










lol
3/16/2010 6:49:13 AM EDT
[#22]
Are we running out of burrito wrappers?
3/16/2010 6:53:02 AM EDT
[#23]
holy shit please tell me that we aren't running out of crisco and potato chips!!!!!!!!!1111
3/16/2010 6:54:28 AM EDT
[#24]
The collapse is coming wether or not the food runs out.  GET PREPARED NOW!

AC
3/16/2010 6:58:49 AM EDT
[#25]
Blah Blah Fucking Blah the world is ending, the end is near run for your lives blah fucking blah.
3/16/2010 7:00:51 AM EDT
[#26]
This is BS––I live in the middle of the richest farm ground and the harvest last year was HUGE.  Prices fell dramatically and corn is still being stored "on the ground"––they put up concrete road barriers in a big oval and then put huge tarps over the corn pile.  I can post pics if anyone wants.  

There is NO shortage of grain crops.  What a crock!  
3/16/2010 7:25:40 AM EDT
[#27]
Quoted:
This is BS––I live in the middle of the richest farm ground and the harvest last year was HUGE.  Prices fell dramatically and corn is still being stored "on the ground"––they put up concrete road barriers in a big oval and then put huge tarps over the corn pile.  I can post pics if anyone wants.  

There is NO shortage of grain crops.  What a crock!  


So we are not running out of burrito wrappers?
3/16/2010 7:34:43 AM EDT
[#28]
2 months is up, we're still here
3/16/2010 7:45:32 AM EDT
[#29]
Quoted:
Quoted:
This is BS––I live in the middle of the richest farm ground and the harvest last year was HUGE.  Prices fell dramatically and corn is still being stored "on the ground"––they put up concrete road barriers in a big oval and then put huge tarps over the corn pile.  I can post pics if anyone wants.  

There is NO shortage of grain crops.  What a crock!  


So we are not running out of burrito wrappers?


Its ethanol beginnings, none of that is for human consumption... they need to feed the cars.
3/16/2010 7:53:37 AM EDT
[#30]
Quoted:
Quoted:
Quoted:
This is BS––I live in the middle of the richest farm ground and the harvest last year was HUGE.  Prices fell dramatically and corn is still being stored "on the ground"––they put up concrete road barriers in a big oval and then put huge tarps over the corn pile.  I can post pics if anyone wants.  

There is NO shortage of grain crops.  What a crock!  


So we are not running out of burrito wrappers?


Its ethanol beginnings, none of that is for human consumption... they need to feed the cars.


So we are running out of burrito wrappers!?!
3/16/2010 7:59:47 AM EDT
[#31]
Plenty of long pig walking around.
3/16/2010 8:06:04 AM EDT
[#32]
Quoted:
This is BS––I live in the middle of the richest farm ground and the harvest last year was HUGE.  Prices fell dramatically and corn is still being stored "on the ground"––they put up concrete road barriers in a big oval and then put huge tarps over the corn pile.  I can post pics if anyone wants.  

There is NO shortage of grain crops.  What a crock!  


The corn and soy bean farmers (the only crops grown here to speak of) had a very good year last year. One guy I can think of didn't get several hundred acres out before the snow hit, but overall, the harvest was good here last year.

Article is full of crap.

Plenty of burrito wraps for everyone.

...and FUCK ETHANOL. That's another scam, for another thread I suppose.

3/16/2010 8:11:47 AM EDT
[#33]
Isolationism & Zenophobia will become things we long for .
3/16/2010 8:17:14 AM EDT
[#34]
Quoted:
This is BS––I live in the middle of the richest farm ground and the harvest last year was HUGE.  Prices fell dramatically and corn is still being stored "on the ground"––they put up concrete road barriers in a big oval and then put huge tarps over the corn pile.  I can post pics if anyone wants.  

There is NO shortage of grain crops.  What a crock!  


yeah post pics!
3/16/2010 8:18:45 AM EDT
[#35]
Quoted:
Quoted:
Quoted:
So if it happens would it be a good time to point and laugh while I step over their starving ass at the people who said I am nuts for keeping a supply of food ?


Yes.

"people who stock pile food and crazy"


Yeah you're lucky, I couldn't find crazy at a good price over the winter.


I got a surplus of the crazy....what do you have to trade??
3/16/2010 8:33:55 AM EDT
[#36]
Quoted:
This is BS––I live in the middle of the richest farm ground and the harvest last year was HUGE.  Prices fell dramatically and corn is still being stored "on the ground"––they put up concrete road barriers in a big oval and then put huge tarps over the corn pile.  I can post pics if anyone wants.  

There is NO shortage of grain crops.  What a crock!  



You think there's corn under there?????   That's storage for the BODIES!!!!!!  

3/16/2010 8:43:01 AM EDT
[#37]
Where is the BS flag smiley?
3/16/2010 8:43:27 AM EDT
[#38]
The U.S. has a very good reason to fudge the numbers on crop estimates. If it published realistic numbers, and crop futures prices rose sharply, three things would likely happen: Wall Street would take massive losses, inflation fears would cause investors to dump bonds, frustrating the government’s attempts to finance its incredible expanding debt, and most importantly, China, whose currency is tied closely to the U.S. dollar, would allow it to appreciate. That alone would likely send the U.S. dollar into freefall; all three would mean utter economic collapse.


This doesn't make sense
3/16/2010 8:44:50 AM EDT
[#39]
Quoted:
The U.S. has a very good reason to fudge the numbers on crop estimates. If it published realistic numbers, and crop futures prices rose sharply, three things would likely happen: Wall Street would take massive losses, inflation fears would cause investors to dump bonds, frustrating the government’s attempts to finance its incredible expanding debt, and most importantly, China, whose currency is tied closely to the U.S. dollar, would allow it to appreciate. That alone would likely send the U.S. dollar into freefall; all three would mean utter economic collapse.


This doesn't make sense


NONE OF IT made any sense.
3/16/2010 8:50:05 AM EDT
[#40]
Quoted:
I'm gonna go out on a limb here and call B.S.


THIS
WE had a an ABOVE average year for wheat and corn.
There are still piles of corn sitting on the ground at local elevators.

Did some areas get hit with bad weather and have crops ruined?  YES
90% of farmers?  NO
3/16/2010 8:59:13 AM EDT
[#41]
Could things get a little more expensive? Yes they will.

Will the world end? probably not.

I've seen a couple restaurants that say they have a shortage of Tomatoes so they won't be serving them, which I can't remember seeing at any other time in my life.

I'm not expecting famine on the streets of the US though.
3/16/2010 9:03:38 AM EDT
[#42]
The covers were off the PMAGs when the Slim-Jim shortage hit, and I was locked and loaded when Eggos started getting scarce.
3/16/2010 9:10:38 AM EDT
[#43]
People please....how do you expect him to fear monger when you keep rebutting his article with facts.....just drink the cool-aid and do as you are told.
3/16/2010 9:37:58 AM EDT
[#44]
I'm pretty sure I read this same article over the summer last year. So I have to call B.S. also. Having a rotating food storage system is smart, on the other hand.
3/16/2010 9:39:46 AM EDT
[#45]
Now it finally begins.

3/16/2010 10:01:52 AM EDT
[#46]
Thanks for the reassurance everybody.

I tried to add my comments in at the bottom, but the editor kept mving up on me so I could not see what I was typing.

It gets annoying.
3/16/2010 10:11:19 AM EDT
[#47]
If you're at my house, I hope you like soy curls and beans 'cause that's what you're gonna get.
3/16/2010 10:22:35 AM EDT
[#48]



Quoted:


The collapse is coming wether or not the food runs out.  GET PREPARED NOW!



AC


+1776





 
3/16/2010 10:23:52 AM EDT
[#49]
This is the time of year that people in agribusiness like to make wild assed, baseless projections of doom.

Par for the course, folks.  Ask me how I know
3/16/2010 11:59:04 AM EDT
[#50]
Wait for it...
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