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Posted: 6/1/2022 12:22:09 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: There are over 20 main characters in the show? Yes. |
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Posted: 6/1/2022 12:28:13 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Yes. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: There are over 20 main characters in the show? Yes. We must have different definitions of what main characters are or be watching different shows. |
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Posted: 6/1/2022 12:49:36 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: We must have different definitions of what main characters are or be watching different shows. A main character is any character who has a major purpose or role in the plot and/or interacts regularly with other main characters. If you know their name, they are most likely a main character. For example, Lucas is clearly a main character. But so is Erica because she has now had big role in the last 2 seasons. |
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Posted: 6/1/2022 9:15:17 AM EDT
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Will is totally gay for Mike. The one thing this show definitely needed was another teenaged LGBT trapped in the closet side-plot
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Posted: 6/1/2022 9:37:03 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: A main character is any character who has a major purpose or role in the plot and/or interacts regularly with other main characters. If you know their name, they are most likely a main character. For example, Lucas is clearly a main character. But so is Erica because she has now had big role in the last 2 seasons. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: We must have different definitions of what main characters are or be watching different shows. A main character is any character who has a major purpose or role in the plot and/or interacts regularly with other main characters. If you know their name, they are most likely a main character. For example, Lucas is clearly a main character. But so is Erica because she has now had big role in the last 2 seasons. I wouldn’t have even remembered her from season 3 if you had not mentioned her. She wasn’t consequential to the overall story. Maybe she gets more important in season 4. I won’t know until the entire season is released and I can binge it all at once for the cost of a single month’s subscription or better yet a free trial. Unless they make Will gay, then I’ll just be done with it. There are really only a dozen recurring main characters. |
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Posted: 6/1/2022 10:51:56 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I wouldn’t have even remembered her from season 3 if you had not mentioned her. She wasn’t consequential to the overall story. Maybe she gets more important in season 4. I won’t know until the entire season is released and I can binge it all at once for the cost of a single month’s subscription or better yet a free trial. Unless they make Will gay, then I’ll just be done with it. There are really only a dozen recurring main characters. I really don’t think they’ll go that route. I think if anything he’ll be ambiguous. He’s a kid that suffered a lot of trauma and didn’t want to grow up. He’s jealous that his former best friend Mike has hardly anything to do with him anymore. It’s the classic your best friend gets a girlfriend and forgets all about you. And it’s even worse at that age. |
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Posted: 6/1/2022 11:10:42 AM EDT
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Back when I had netflix i watched 3 episodes of the first season. I didn't return to watch anymore.
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Posted: 6/1/2022 12:05:02 PM EDT
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Unknown Agent Hero Man.
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Posted: 6/1/2022 12:23:16 PM EDT
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I don't understand some of you guys seeing the woke boogeyman everywhere. This is probably one of the most conservative television shows in a decade.
The government is generally malevolent, and the commies are worse. The characters regularly arm themselves and use their own weapons to solve their problems. Instead of being presented as an example of the failings of toxic masculinity, Hopper is regularly a hero. The key themes of the entire show are the importance of friends and family. The kids are independent and the parents aren't over-protective, coddling busy bodies. They don't even make the fucking lesbian an out, in your face, "we're here and we're queer" militant dyke. But it's got a lesbian, so it must be woke. 
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Posted: 6/1/2022 12:37:14 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I don't understand some of you guys seeing the woke boogeyman everywhere. This is probably one of the most conservative television shows in a decade. The government is generally malevolent, and the commies are worse. The characters regularly arm themselves and use their own weapons to solve their problems. Instead of being presented as an example of the failings of toxic masculinity, Hopper is regularly a hero. The key themes of the entire show are the importance of friends and family. The kids are independent and the parents aren't over-protective, coddling busy bodies. They don't even make the fucking lesbian an out, in your face, "we're here and we're queer" militant dyke. But it's got a lesbian, so it must be woke. I did like the scene in the upside down where Nancy is talking about getting her guns and after hearing a creepy ass noise, the junkie D&D kid says "yeah... guns sound like a good idea." |
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Posted: 6/1/2022 12:57:28 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryI also don't get all the moping about "wokeness." I knew gay guys in the early eighties. One of my best friends came out as a lesbian in 1983 - but she only came out to her close friends. In my opinion, Season 4 is every bit the equal of Season 1. And I'm really digging all the little homages to other horror flicks of the 80's, like the presence of you-know-who, and the way Vecna seems to use dreams to control his victims... Click To View Spoiler |
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Posted: 6/1/2022 1:15:04 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I also don't get all the moping about "wokeness." I knew gay guys in the early eighties. One of my best friends came out as a lesbian in 1983 - but she only came out to her close friends. In my opinion, Season 4 is every bit the equal of Season 1. And I'm really digging all the little homages to other horror flicks of the 80's, like the presence of you-know-who, and the way Vecna seems to use dreams to control his victims... Click To View Spoiler Click To View Spoiler |
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Posted: 6/1/2022 1:41:02 PM EDT
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Posted: 6/2/2022 8:19:18 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Is Nancy’s Mom still hot ? Even hotter. |
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Posted: 6/2/2022 8:20:39 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Back when I had netflix i watched 3 episodes of the first season. I didn't return to watch anymore. Wooly Bully Wooly Bully Wooly Bully |
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Posted: 6/2/2022 8:45:40 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Back when I had netflix i watched 3 episodes of the first season. I didn't return to watch anymore. I want to be like you when I grow up. |
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Posted: 6/2/2022 11:02:59 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I want to be like you when I grow up. You're probably not cool enough. Most people aren't. |
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Posted: 6/2/2022 11:14:05 AM EDT
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Finished the first batch of episodes last night, I thought it was pretty great. Probably the best season so far.
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Posted: 6/2/2022 11:18:57 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I don't understand some of you guys seeing the woke boogeyman everywhere. This is probably one of the most conservative television shows in a decade. The government is generally malevolent, and the commies are worse. The characters regularly arm themselves and use their own weapons to solve their problems. Instead of being presented as an example of the failings of toxic masculinity, Hopper is regularly a hero. The key themes of the entire show are the importance of friends and family. The kids are independent and the parents aren't over-protective, coddling busy bodies. They don't even make the fucking lesbian an out, in your face, "we're here and we're queer" militant dyke. But it's got a lesbian, so it must be woke. I noticed that too and remember those days growing up in the 80s. It was awesome! |
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Posted: 6/2/2022 11:22:21 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Eh, the character talked about lesbian crushes last season, and is confiding in the closet to her best friend. I’m glad Steve and Dustin get to team up again. Somehow missed that for season 3 but I binged 3 this time I did a day by day or every other day. |
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Posted: 6/2/2022 11:23:26 AM EDT
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Posted: 6/2/2022 11:24:41 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Same. Real live lesbians in the wild were unheard of in the 80s.  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GkSFijFzw8IBill Burr ice hockey or umbrella joke covered the 1990s for the same “fag” |
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Posted: 6/2/2022 11:30:37 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: And she's actually played by TWINS 
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Posted: 6/2/2022 11:33:27 AM EDT
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Posted: 6/2/2022 11:38:01 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Will is totally gay for Mike. The one thing this show definitely needed was another teenaged LGBT trapped in the closet side-plot yea, that shit really bugs me how they're implying that. |
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Posted: 6/2/2022 11:41:08 AM EDT
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I felt like this was the best season since season 1.
I did not like season 3. There is some wokeness to the storyline that feels forced. We already had a gay character in Will, who now seems to have a crush on Mike? At least that’s the vibe I was getting. I guess that wasn’t enough gay characters for the show runners and we had to introduce the lesbian character last season. She’s a good actress, but I could care less about her storyline. I do feel like the most annoying character in the show however is the little black sister. She’s like nails on chalkboard to me. She’s always sassy and has that plot armor of always being right / succeeding. |
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Posted: 6/2/2022 11:42:27 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: It's not bad. I'm on episode 3. There is no naked dudes shown, there was a lesbian and a gay kid last season. Quit bitching it's entertainment and it's half way decent 
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Posted: 6/2/2022 11:47:52 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Yup, typical Hollywood. Play on peoples nostalgia, get them interested, set the hook and then start revising history with woke bullshit. To be fair the under 35 age bracket is much more LGBTQ123iKL and since the show is about younger people it’s going to garner younger audiences too. Shows want as much of an audience as possible but I think they assume everyone will be happy until they remove black guys kissing Asian women from Chinese Star Wars posters and delete scenes from films for overseas theaters. Anyway, not the end of the world but the first episodes were slow so that stood out plus I’ve forgotten most of season 3. |
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Posted: 6/2/2022 6:47:51 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I do feel like the most annoying character in the show however is the little black sister. She’s like nails on chalkboard to me. She’s always sassy and has that plot armor of always being right / succeeding. She cracks me up, and she vehemently disagrees with communism as an ideology. Loved her intro this season with her wearing an American flag as a cape |
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Posted: 6/3/2022 8:44:47 AM EDT
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I finished what there is of the season last night. I loved the twist. I'm also looking forward to there being a main bad guy to fight in the last couple of episodes, and also how everything about the Upside Down's creation and what it was pretty much being revealed.
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Posted: 6/4/2022 9:52:44 AM EDT
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Just finished episode 4, only watching because my wife asked if I would watch it with her.
I honestly don't care about any of the characters anymore, no one has really grown or evolved in anyway. Everyone says it picks up after ep4 but really who cares, no one on this show is likable anymore, they are all insufferable twats. The main villain is boring, not even slightly creepy and has the most laughable fucking voice, seriously we both crack up every time he talks. I will say though I hope he kills them all, even though I know he wont. |
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Posted: 6/4/2022 11:05:49 AM EDT
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@Proto3 Any word on when they're going to start shooting season 5?
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Posted: 6/4/2022 11:30:26 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: It could easily be that Will has a crush on Eleven but she's with Mike. He can't share his feelings because it would make shit weird with 2 of his best friends. It's 2022 though, so he'll probably be gay. I would be surprised if that’s the way they play it. I cannot think of a single instance where Will seemed to indicate interest in 11. I’m guessing they’re going to make him gay or asexual. Seems to have zero interest in opposite sex…and seems to be played a little “fussy” in his dress and attitude. |
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Posted: 6/4/2022 11:39:39 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: They better not  Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Uh oh. "If you've been watching the show you should know that Will is not interested in El," David Harbour said. "He's interested in someone else in the group." "Yeah, you'll see soon," Wolfhard added. "He's interested..." "He's very interested," Harbour chimed in. Stranger Things They better not I think it’s the way it’s going to go. And—tbh—they’re doing it in a very ‘80s way. Will is not “out”, he’s not flamboyant, he’s not on-screen sucking off oiled-up teenagers. He’s different, and not interested in girls. Feels pretty ‘80s accurate to me. |
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Posted: 6/4/2022 11:41:12 AM EDT
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What’s all this ‘woke’ complaint crap?
How exactly is it woke? One girl likes girls, but how is it handled? Is she ‘Out and Proud???’ No way. She’s, ‘if anyone finds out I’m an outcast…’ Exactly like it would have been in the 80’s. And her friend she confides in? He says,’you like boobies, I like boobies, let’s team up…’ Steve has the right idea. Be like Steve. Back to the thread topic. It’s not bad so far. More gruesome/horror movie than earlier seasons. It’s a little formulaic, but it’s teen fiction, so to be expected. Not bad, kids like it, so no complaints. |
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Posted: 6/4/2022 11:42:42 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: He's at least playing a kid who is supposed to be 19 or 20. The fat one, though... guy looks to be in his 30s. Black guy looks at least 29 as well. That's an old looking bunch. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: He does act fruity but I can't take Mike seriously either. They both need a bunch of cheeseburgers, some sun, and a gym very badly. They're like the poster children for veganism and gender neutrality. Dustin is the only kid on the show who acts and looks like a typical nerdy teenage dude. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/4019/e2cdfe7c01523562dc9c489f11af74a4_jpg-2403350.JPG https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/4019/n01-arttheme-standard-thumb-big-1000x125-2403351.JPG There were plenty of scrawny, dorky looking kids that age back then. This. The traditional way Hollywood avoids this is to use guys much older than the kids they play, unless casting a "nerd" character. Kinda like the pothead long hair "kid" who's head of the D&D club being played by a 29 year old actor? He's at least playing a kid who is supposed to be 19 or 20. The fat one, though... guy looks to be in his 30s. Black guy looks at least 29 as well. That's an old looking bunch. Uh…accurate for high-school D&D in the ‘80s. The groups that played almost always had older players. …or so I heard.  |
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Posted: 6/4/2022 11:42:57 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I think it's the way it's going to go. Andtbhthey're doing it in a very '80s way. Will is not "out", he's not flamboyant, he's not on-screen sucking off oiled-up teenagers. He's different, and not interested in girls. Feels pretty '80s accurate to me. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Uh oh. "If you've been watching the show you should know that Will is not interested in El," David Harbour said. "He's interested in someone else in the group." "Yeah, you'll see soon," Wolfhard added. "He's interested..." "He's very interested," Harbour chimed in. Stranger Things They better not I think it's the way it's going to go. Andtbhthey're doing it in a very '80s way. Will is not "out", he's not flamboyant, he's not on-screen sucking off oiled-up teenagers. He's different, and not interested in girls. Feels pretty '80s accurate to me. Plot twist: Will has a hard on for Nancy's mom. |
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Posted: 6/4/2022 11:46:27 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I did like the scene in the upside down where Nancy is talking about getting her guns and after hearing a creepy ass noise, the junkie D&D kid says "yeah... guns sound like a good idea." Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I don't understand some of you guys seeing the woke boogeyman everywhere. This is probably one of the most conservative television shows in a decade. The government is generally malevolent, and the commies are worse. The characters regularly arm themselves and use their own weapons to solve their problems. Instead of being presented as an example of the failings of toxic masculinity, Hopper is regularly a hero. The key themes of the entire show are the importance of friends and family. The kids are independent and the parents aren't over-protective, coddling busy bodies. They don't even make the fucking lesbian an out, in your face, "we're here and we're queer" militant dyke. But it's got a lesbian, so it must be woke. I did like the scene in the upside down where Nancy is talking about getting her guns and after hearing a creepy ass noise, the junkie D&D kid says "yeah... guns sound like a good idea." Yeah…but… Click To View Spoiler |
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Posted: 6/4/2022 11:48:27 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Nancy still is. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Is Nancy’s Mom still hot ? Nancy still is. Do people really think this? She looks really weird to me. Like…unhealthy kid with cancer wig or brain controlling worms weird. |
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Posted: 6/4/2022 11:56:47 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Do people really think this? She looks really weird to me. Likeunhealthy kid with cancer wig or brain controlling worms weird. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Is Nancy's Mom still hot ? Nancy still is. Do people really think this? She looks really weird to me. Likeunhealthy kid with cancer wig or brain controlling worms weird. Yeah, way too skinny. She's on whatever diet Finn Wolfhard is on. That kid is unhealthy levels of skinny.  Attached File |
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Posted: 6/4/2022 11:58:41 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Plot twist: Will has a hard on for Nancy's mom. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Uh oh. "If you've been watching the show you should know that Will is not interested in El," David Harbour said. "He's interested in someone else in the group." "Yeah, you'll see soon," Wolfhard added. "He's interested..." "He's very interested," Harbour chimed in. Stranger Things They better not I think it's the way it's going to go. Andtbhthey're doing it in a very '80s way. Will is not "out", he's not flamboyant, he's not on-screen sucking off oiled-up teenagers. He's different, and not interested in girls. Feels pretty '80s accurate to me. Plot twist: Will has a hard on for Nancy's mom. Also ‘80s accurate. |
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Posted: 6/4/2022 12:02:29 PM EDT
[#42]
Can someone tell me were all these woke screens are. I can't stand that crap, Stranger Things isn't anti woke, but I don't see anything that is out of place in 1985.
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Posted: 6/4/2022 12:10:27 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Uh…accurate for high-school D&D in the ‘80s. The groups that played almost always had older players. …or so I heard. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: He does act fruity but I can't take Mike seriously either. They both need a bunch of cheeseburgers, some sun, and a gym very badly. They're like the poster children for veganism and gender neutrality. Dustin is the only kid on the show who acts and looks like a typical nerdy teenage dude. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/4019/e2cdfe7c01523562dc9c489f11af74a4_jpg-2403350.JPG https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/4019/n01-arttheme-standard-thumb-big-1000x125-2403351.JPG There were plenty of scrawny, dorky looking kids that age back then. This. The traditional way Hollywood avoids this is to use guys much older than the kids they play, unless casting a "nerd" character. Kinda like the pothead long hair "kid" who's head of the D&D club being played by a 29 year old actor? He's at least playing a kid who is supposed to be 19 or 20. The fat one, though... guy looks to be in his 30s. Black guy looks at least 29 as well. That's an old looking bunch. Uh…accurate for high-school D&D in the ‘80s. The groups that played almost always had older players. …or so I heard. Not to mention the leader mentions "fighting for a D" in a class he has to pass to graduate, for his third attempt. Being a senior for 3 years could easily make him 21 depending on where his birthday falls in the year. |
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Posted: 6/4/2022 12:23:23 PM EDT
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I've been avoiding this thread until I finished up the first half of the season, I hate spoilers.
I think it has been pretty good overall. It was a little slow at first and I was starting to think maybe they should have ended it after the last season. But...It did pick up and the last few episodes were really good. It really doesn't seem that woke to me. Not compared to a lot of crap out there. I grew up in a small southern town, graduated high school in 79 and even back then in our small town there were a few fairly openly gay folks. Yep they caught a lot of shit from some people but they were there and part of life even back then. |
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Posted: 6/4/2022 12:59:32 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Not to mention the leader mentions "fighting for a D" in a class he has to pass to graduate, for his third attempt. Being a senior for 3 years could easily make him 21 depending on where his birthday falls in the year. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: He does act fruity but I can't take Mike seriously either. They both need a bunch of cheeseburgers, some sun, and a gym very badly. They're like the poster children for veganism and gender neutrality. Dustin is the only kid on the show who acts and looks like a typical nerdy teenage dude. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/4019/e2cdfe7c01523562dc9c489f11af74a4_jpg-2403350.JPG https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/4019/n01-arttheme-standard-thumb-big-1000x125-2403351.JPG There were plenty of scrawny, dorky looking kids that age back then. This. The traditional way Hollywood avoids this is to use guys much older than the kids they play, unless casting a "nerd" character. Kinda like the pothead long hair "kid" who's head of the D&D club being played by a 29 year old actor? He's at least playing a kid who is supposed to be 19 or 20. The fat one, though... guy looks to be in his 30s. Black guy looks at least 29 as well. That's an old looking bunch. Uh…accurate for high-school D&D in the ‘80s. The groups that played almost always had older players. …or so I heard. Not to mention the leader mentions "fighting for a D" in a class he has to pass to graduate, for his third attempt. Being a senior for 3 years could easily make him 21 depending on where his birthday falls in the year. Hence, "He's at least playing a kid who is supposed to be 19 or 20." Used to be in most states a 21 year old could not be in high school. Not sure of the current rules. |
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Posted: 6/4/2022 1:04:02 PM EDT
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Whatever is the point of breaking up the season?
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Posted: 6/4/2022 1:47:46 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: @Proto3 Any word on when they're going to start shooting season 5? Current rumor is ~January 2023. But I start a different show with a few of the producers of ST next week so I'll pick their brains. |
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Posted: 6/4/2022 1:50:54 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Whatever is the point of breaking up the season? I thought the whole point of streaming was bingeing. (Another) Rumor is that all of the visual effects work wasn't complete in time to release all of the episodes together. |
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Posted: 6/4/2022 2:06:37 PM EDT
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First time I ever watched DnD and was on the edge of my seat for someone to make a crit hit. LOL
The cool part, my wife has started playing DnD with me since season one aired. She, too was on the edge of her seat waiting for that D20 to land big. LOL |
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Posted: 6/4/2022 2:11:20 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Uh…accurate for high-school D&D in the ‘80s. The groups that played almost always had older players. …or so I heard. Yeah, other than rolling their dice all across the table at the risk of knocking figures outta place. LOL BITCH! You knocked over my Ral Partha wizard, AND my druid! |
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