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Link Posted: 3/27/2023 12:46:26 PM EST
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Reported to be short-stroke piston operated.
Link Posted: 3/27/2023 12:52:56 PM EST
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Because a rainbow of golden brass coming from a lump of leaves might arouse suspicions?
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Still using a bolt gun?  I can see an advantage of no brass being ejected.


what advantage would that be?

Because a rainbow of golden brass coming from a lump of leaves might arouse suspicions?
But fuck the big cloud of dust and leaves that'll get blown up
Link Posted: 3/27/2023 12:59:13 PM EST
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The West in decay.
Link Posted: 3/27/2023 1:02:33 PM EST
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I just want to know what will happen with all the ak 5’s ?

I’m assuming they’ll go into storage then be scrapped but FNC owners have needed a supply of bolts for a long time
Link Posted: 3/27/2023 1:07:56 PM EST
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Probably Ukraine.

Is the AK5 all that is being replaced?  Or what all else are these tinnitus-specials replacing?
Link Posted: 3/27/2023 1:24:04 PM EST
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The Ak5 is simply worn out.

~ 190 000 were made, but only around 50 000 were rebuilt to the C and D. Those remaining rifles have now been in use for around 18 years and are nearing the end of their service life.

They're going to the shredder.
Link Posted: 3/27/2023 1:25:28 PM EST
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Probably Ukraine.

Is the AK5 all that is being replaced?  Or what all else are these tinnitus-specials replacing?
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I just want to know what will happen with all the ak 5's ?

I'm assuming they'll go into storage then be scrapped but FNC owners have needed a supply of bolts for a long time
Probably Ukraine.

Is the AK5 all that is being replaced?  Or what all else are these tinnitus-specials replacing?


It's also replacing the remaining Ak4s (C and D), as well as pistols for support personnel within the Home Guard.
Link Posted: 3/27/2023 1:28:51 PM EST
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It's 338. Hitting a man sized target at the ranges it's capable too requires a level of accuracy thats significantly harder to produce from a gas gun as well as more difficult for the shooter to achieve. There's are like maybe 2 or 3 companies even producing them... The 762 platform they are adopting will cover DMR and short range/urban needs..

This brass bullshit is fucking retarded.
Link Posted: 3/27/2023 1:32:37 PM EST
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Wow, I can see none of you guys has ever worked around snipers before.  Or read a book on sniping.  Or seen a show with snipers.  Or even knows what sniping is.

All it takes is the tiniest glint of light on brass to be seen by just one guy who will tell everyone around him including someone with access to air or arty or a bunch of other guys with guns to fuck up your day.  You know what a killflash is?  You ever wonder why guys who do this shit for a living tape over the ends of their scopes and binos into slits?  And if your hide is dusty or leafy, you generally partially clear it or water it down so you reduce the blast signature.






I mean, do you think guys dress up like this just to be given away by brass flying off into the distance?
Link Posted: 3/27/2023 1:35:51 PM EST
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It's also replacing the remaining Ak4s (C and D), as well as pistols for support personnel within the Home Guard.
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I just want to know what will happen with all the ak 5's ?

I'm assuming they'll go into storage then be scrapped but FNC owners have needed a supply of bolts for a long time
Probably Ukraine.

Is the AK5 all that is being replaced?  Or what all else are these tinnitus-specials replacing?


It's also replacing the remaining Ak4s (C and D), as well as pistols for support personnel within the Home Guard.
The carbines are replacing the pistols?  Or pistols are also being upgraded/replaced, and that information wasn't part of the OP?
Link Posted: 3/27/2023 1:47:06 PM EST
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Wow, I can see none of you guys has ever worked around snipers before.  Or read a book on sniping.  Or seen a show with snipers.  Or even knows what sniping is.

All it takes is the tiniest glint of light on brass to be seen by just one guy who will tell everyone around him including someone with access to air or arty or a bunch of other guys with guns to fuck up your day.  You know what a killflash is?  You ever wonder why guys who do this shit for a living tape over the ends of their scopes and binos into slits?  And if your hide is dusty or leafy, you generally partially clear it or water it down so you reduce the blast signature.
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Link Posted: 3/27/2023 1:49:04 PM EST
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The carbines are replacing the pistols?  Or pistols are also being upgraded/replaced, and that information wasn't part of the OP?
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I just want to know what will happen with all the ak 5's ?

I'm assuming they'll go into storage then be scrapped but FNC owners have needed a supply of bolts for a long time
Probably Ukraine.

Is the AK5 all that is being replaced?  Or what all else are these tinnitus-specials replacing?


It's also replacing the remaining Ak4s (C and D), as well as pistols for support personnel within the Home Guard.
The carbines are replacing the pistols?  Or pistols are also being upgraded/replaced, and that information wasn't part of the OP?


Carbines replacing pistols.

After we scrapped the Swedish K, quite a few people were left without a suitable weapon. We tested some possible alternatives, like the MP5K-PDW, but in the end they had to settle for pistols. They're going to get the 11.5" now.
Link Posted: 3/27/2023 1:53:51 PM EST
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Carbines replacing pistols.

After we scrapped the Swedish K, quite a few people were left without a suitable weapon. We tested some possible alternatives, like the MP5K-PDW, but in the end they had to settle for pistols. They're going to get the 11.5" now.
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Germans had a pretty good thing in Mali, friend said a lot of truck drivers / support folks were issued MP7s and leg holsters
Link Posted: 3/27/2023 1:55:06 PM EST
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Somebody notify Sweden that the GD questions their sniper rifle choice. They obviously didn't consult any REAL professionals.
Link Posted: 3/27/2023 1:55:21 PM EST
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Carbines replacing pistols.

After we scrapped the Swedish K, quite a few people were left without a suitable weapon. We tested some possible alternatives, like the MP5K-PDW, but in the end they had to settle for pistols. They're going to get the 11.5" now.


Germans had a pretty good thing in Mali, friend said a lot of truck drivers / support folks were issued MP7s and leg holsters


Yeah, I've trained with the Norwegians and I was very jealous of their MP7s. A SMG which can be carried in a holster is tits.
Link Posted: 3/27/2023 1:55:50 PM EST
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I'll take two. God I hope that 7.62 version gets imported
Link Posted: 3/27/2023 1:56:35 PM EST
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Link Posted: 3/27/2023 1:57:29 PM EST
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The Ak5 is simply worn out.

~ 190 000 were made, but only around 50 000 were rebuilt to the C and D. Those remaining rifles have now been in use for around 18 years and are nearing the end of their service life.

They're going to the shredder.
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Even so, worn parts kits are better than nothing. Some guys pay a few grand to salvage a FNC bolt from a semi auto FNC to use in their machine guns. Spare parts are extremely lacking in the US.
Link Posted: 3/27/2023 1:59:04 PM EST
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I <3 Sako
Link Posted: 3/27/2023 1:59:28 PM EST
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Kinky...
I dig it.
Link Posted: 3/27/2023 1:59:31 PM EST
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Wow, I can see none of you guys has ever worked around snipers before.  Or read a book on sniping.  Or seen a show with snipers.  Or even knows what sniping is.

All it takes is the tiniest glint of light on brass to be seen by just one guy who will tell everyone around him including someone with access to air or arty or a bunch of other guys with guns to fuck up your day.  You know what a killflash is?  You ever wonder why guys who do this shit for a living tape over the ends of their scopes and binos into slits?  And if your hide is dusty or leafy, you generally partially clear it or water it down so you reduce the blast signature.

https://www.recoilweb.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/08/RECP-202211-SNIPER-Image2.jpg
https://rare-gallery.com/uploads/posts/1121085-men-weapon-soldier-military-sniper-rifle-army-Person-rifles-marines-Marksman-camouflage-mercenary-reconnaissance-profession-infantry-troop-militia-military-police.jpg
https://qph.cf2.quoracdn.net/main-qimg-f82feab630fc1d46ba00c26d0877020f.webp
http://www.imfdb.org/images/2/25/GenK_014.jpg

I mean, do you think guys dress up like this just to be given away by brass flying off into the distance?
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Syria and Ukraine show ATGMs being used to attack single targets at 2k plus range, but brass from a semi auto is going to give the sniper away.
Link Posted: 3/27/2023 1:59:54 PM EST
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Even so, worn parts kits are better than nothing. Some guys pay a few grand to salvage a FNC bolt from a semi auto FNC to use in their machine guns. Spare parts are extremely lacking in the US.
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The Ak5 is simply worn out.

~ 190 000 were made, but only around 50 000 were rebuilt to the C and D. Those remaining rifles have now been in use for around 18 years and are nearing the end of their service life.

They're going to the shredder.


Even so, worn parts kits are better than nothing. Some guys pay a few grand to salvage a FNC bolt from a semi auto FNC to use in their machine guns. Spare parts are extremely lacking in the US.


Honestly, I'd think it would be better if someone made new ones for the civvie market. Maybe the handguards and buttstocks could be reused, but the rest is usually pretty worn by years of conscripts.
Link Posted: 3/27/2023 2:01:04 PM EST
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Looks all Magpuley…
Link Posted: 3/27/2023 2:01:58 PM EST
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blue, but it never tastes like grape....
Link Posted: 3/27/2023 2:03:07 PM EST
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The West in decay.
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The West in decay.


Don't blame me, I voted for roller-delayed blowback.
Link Posted: 3/27/2023 2:11:04 PM EST
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SOCOM went with a bolt gun, they obviously have no idea what they are doing either.
Link Posted: 3/27/2023 2:12:14 PM EST
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The West in decay.


Euro's are like "AR180 all the things!"

Link Posted: 3/27/2023 2:15:11 PM EST
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When I was at Barrett, we prototyped a 338LM semi auto. Worked great. It was dropped to do a bolt gun.

The M98
Better pic
Link Posted: 3/27/2023 2:19:07 PM EST
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Holy shit I want a Sako AR....Attachment Attached File
Link Posted: 3/27/2023 2:19:36 PM EST
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Yes please
Link Posted: 3/27/2023 2:28:17 PM EST
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Link Posted: 3/27/2023 2:28:32 PM EST
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Hopefully it operates as a release and as a method to hold the bolt, similar to the LMT MARS or the ADM UIC rifles.
Link Posted: 3/27/2023 2:29:12 PM EST
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My OCD is kicked into overdrive. The screws on the carbine that mount the hand guard are not oriented the same.

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Link Posted: 3/27/2023 2:29:41 PM EST
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ETA: yes they were both .30-caliber but they were chambered for two completely different rounds.
Link Posted: 3/27/2023 2:31:46 PM EST
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7.62 as their main infantry rifle?

Interesting.

whats old is new again?



If not already mentioned, barrel switch for 6.8x51 in the future. We used 30-06 in the Garand as we had warehouses full of ammo from WWI+.


276 was better.

Link Posted: 3/27/2023 2:31:48 PM EST
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plz gib ak4 parts kit
Link Posted: 3/27/2023 2:34:57 PM EST
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blue, but it never tastes like grape....
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blue, but it never tastes like grape....


That's because it tastes like blueberries, duh.
Link Posted: 3/27/2023 2:36:00 PM EST
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Because a rainbow of golden brass coming from a lump of leaves might arouse suspicions?
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Still using a bolt gun?  I can see an advantage of no brass being ejected.


what advantage would that be?

Because a rainbow of golden brass coming from a lump of leaves might arouse suspicions?



$10 brass catcher?

And at a mile does brass flying really matter?

Could also be COL. Speciality cartridges could be single loaded that exceed the magazine COL.


Link Posted: 3/27/2023 2:40:42 PM EST
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If the renderings are correct, it’s a short frame 308 AR too.
Link Posted: 3/27/2023 2:48:13 PM EST
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Build three different lengths of Carl Gustavs.  Stubby one to replace SMGs, medium length general issue, longer one with upgraded scope for sniping.

This is the way.

Link Posted: 3/27/2023 2:52:16 PM EST
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Maybe three different lengths of the Bofors 40mm?
Link Posted: 3/27/2023 2:59:23 PM EST
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Looks to be GII or maybe Colt 901 sized.
Link Posted: 3/27/2023 3:02:10 PM EST
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So basically AR15 and AR10 with some fancy features extra ambi mods. Cool! I think we have reached peak weapon technology.
Link Posted: 3/27/2023 3:03:59 PM EST
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Still using a bolt gun?  I can see an advantage of no brass being ejected.


what advantage would that be?

Because a rainbow of golden brass coming from a lump of leaves might arouse suspicions?


I figured it was because it would be easier to police your brass for certain missions involving discretion/maximum secrecy or something
Link Posted: 3/27/2023 3:06:00 PM EST
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What was the previous service rifle? Valmet?
Link Posted: 3/27/2023 3:10:10 PM EST
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That rail looks to have a huge barrel nut.
Link Posted: 3/27/2023 3:10:52 PM EST
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Well...I don't know about that.  I do know right and wrong are abstract concepts when three drunk Swedes are pointing a Bofors 40mm at you.
Link Posted: 3/27/2023 3:14:32 PM EST
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I figured it was because it would be easier to police your brass for certain missions involving discretion/maximum secrecy or something
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Still using a bolt gun?  I can see an advantage of no brass being ejected.


what advantage would that be?

Because a rainbow of golden brass coming from a lump of leaves might arouse suspicions?


I figured it was because it would be easier to police your brass for certain missions involving discretion/maximum secrecy or something


This is my reasoning. Leave nothing behind. It is easy to lose auto ejected brass.
Link Posted: 3/27/2023 3:18:53 PM EST
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Sako .338LM owner since 2006.

I'm ahead of the curve.

Chris
Link Posted: 3/27/2023 3:20:23 PM EST
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I kinda like the 11.5
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