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The coaching thing is insane now. Harbaugh is a great coach. Michigan can't do any better. Not every team can hire Nick Saban. In my mind, you could safely put Saban, Meyers, Fisher, Sweeny, and Stoops ahead of Harbaugh. But except for Saban, who is a genius, most of that is experience. Harbaugh could easily catch the other four. Or he could not. A lot depends on the players. View Quote Fanbases are more impatient that ever to win and are ready to switch coaches every few years in search of that magic bulllet. Truth is there just aren't that many top guys to go around and then nothing is a given. As much as I've voiced a desire to get rid of Sumlin I have reservations of who A&M could hire that would be any better. I could throw a few names out there but again they could come in and go 8-4 on average too. |
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Yes it is crazy. Fanbases are more impatient that ever to win and are ready to switch coaches every few years in search of that magic bulllet. Truth is there just aren't that many top guys to go around and then nothing is a given. As much as I've voiced a desire to get rid of Sumlin I have reservations of who A&M could hire that would be any better. I could throw a few names out there but again they could come in and go 8-4 on average too. View Quote |
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Honestly, I was just trying to get the discussion going. There's no doubt Harbaugh is a top ten coach. My top ten: Top 5 Saban Meyer Dabo Peterson Stoops Next 5 Shaw Jimbo Richt Petrino Harbaugh View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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He's a great coach. Wish A&M had him. Name 10 better. 10 PROVEN better. Not just the latest greatest hottest commodity like that row your boat guy. First 5 names should be relatively easy and then it's going to get progressively harder. My top ten: Top 5 Saban Meyer Dabo Peterson Stoops Next 5 Shaw Jimbo Richt Petrino Harbaugh |
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I know he's yalls coach now but you better learn more about Richt before you start naming him top 10. Never has a coach done so little with so much talent..... View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Honestly, I was just trying to get the discussion going. There's no doubt Harbaugh is a top ten coach. My top ten: Top 5 Saban Meyer Dabo Peterson Stoops Next 5 Shaw Jimbo Richt Petrino Harbaugh ETA: I think accumulating all that talent is a factor as well. |
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I mean these things are subjective. I think his record speaks for itself. Who would you put in the top 10 ahead of Richt? ETA: I think accumulating all that talent is a factor as well. View Quote (1) Recruiting. (2) Player development. (3) Utilization. That is, developing a system of football that fits your talent profile and calling the right plays in game situations. Richt is great at 1, adequate at 2, but seems to have had problems with 3 over the years. |
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I think there are three axis in determining how talented a coach is. (1) Recruiting. (2) Player development. (3) Utilization. That is, developing a system of football that fits your talent profile and calling the right plays in game situations. Richt is great at 1, adequate at 2, but seems to have had problems with 3 over the years. View Quote If you achieve those 2 successfully eventually recruiting will become much easier because you are successful. What about coaches from programs that are at a huge disadvantage due to locale or for financial reasons? Mike Gundy at Oklahoma St is one. Very underrated coach. Recruits in the shadow of big brother Oklahoma and is not located in a hotbed of high school football talent. Yet year after year the guy puts together solid teams. Bill Snyder at Kansas. Same. Very underrated coach. He may be the best ever at taking tier 2 talent and developing it to compete at the highest level. What could these 2 guys do somewhere where they had an endless budget with world class facilities? |
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There's an order to the discussions folks...
(someone post the Big Lobowski Meme "am I the only one who cares about the GD rules!?) Post your predictions for the team this year. honestly, mine are tempered this year. I think the ACC title is a possibility but it will be a fight this year. I don't even want to think about NC playoff prospects. Just winning our division in the conference will be tough especially with Bama right out of the gates. 2 losses is a very real possibility but I think we keep it to one loss. All depends on if they don't wait until week 5 to start playing like a team like last year |
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Swinney is King of the mountain right now. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes |
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My gut says FSU goes 11-1 this year with a loss among Bama, Louisville or some BS sleeper. Losing Cook will hurt but I think a more experienced Francois and Cam Akers will help negate that. I expect the defense to be very good this year with James back.
I do think it's FSU's turn again in the Atlantic after Clemson lost their best player in school history and I expect FSU to represent the ACC in the playoffs. No idea what happens from there. As a disclaimer this entire prediction could change after week 1 but this is where I stand right now. |
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https://cdn-s3.si.com/s3fs-public/styles/marquee_large_2x/public/2016/12/05/army-uniforms-navy.jpg?itok=VXw_MpVs Go Army, Beat Navy! I'm obviously outclassed View Quote |
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The best coach is the guy with the best players.
I stole that from Switzer. |
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My body is ready....Go Blue! Attached File
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GO NOLES! https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/8a/a8/d6/8aa8d6c5e3423b77e286f1ec91f22f60.jpg View Quote |
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I think player development is the top factor on your list. Then I would put utilization of said players / game scheme next. If you achieve those 2 successfully eventually recruiting will become much easier because you are successful. What about coaches from programs that are at a huge disadvantage due to locale or for financial reasons? Mike Gundy at Oklahoma St is one. Very underrated coach. Recruits in the shadow of big brother Oklahoma and is not located in a hotbed of high school football talent. Yet year after year the guy puts together solid teams. Bill Snyder at Kansas. Same. Very underrated coach. He may be the best ever at taking tier 2 talent and developing it to compete at the highest level. What could these 2 guys do somewhere where they had an endless budget with world class facilities? View Quote |
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The coaching thing is insane now. Harbaugh is a great coach. Michigan can't do any better. Not every team can hire Nick Saban. In my mind, you could safely put Saban, Meyers, Fisher, Sweeny, and Stoops ahead of Harbaugh. But except for Saban, who is a genius, most of that is experience. Harbaugh could easily catch the other four. Or he could not. A lot depends on the players. View Quote |
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There's an order to the discussions folks... (someone post the Big Lobowski Meme "am I the only one who cares about the GD rules!?) Post your predictions for the team this year. honestly, mine are tempered this year. I think the ACC title is a possibility but it will be a fight this year. I don't even want to think about NC playoff prospects. Just winning our division in the conference will be tough especially with Bama right out of the gates. 2 losses is a very real possibility but I think we keep it to one loss. All depends on if they don't wait until week 5 to start playing like a team like last year View Quote I am looking forward to seeing Derrius Guise in full stride and no longer in Fournette's (PBUH) shadow. If he stays healthy, he will have a great season. |
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An early run of success will make me cautiously optimistic. http://media1.popsugar-assets.com/files/2014/11/12/011/n/1922283/7e8018e182dd5402_anyqppLPKFox9.xxxlarge/i/Being-Optimistic.gif We will beat a team we shouldn't, the media will hype us as playoff contenders and I will start chugging the Maroon Kool Aide like so: https://i.makeagif.com/media/5-01-2016/JWyLbh.gif Then we will lose to a team we shouldn't, the media that hyped us will say "who ever took this team seriously", and I'll just be over here like "you're the only ones who thought they'd do anything, tards" http://www.reactiongifs.us/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/raining_david_tennant_nosedrip.gif Players will get in trouble because Sumlin doesn't give an eff about discipline. https://img-comment-fun.9cache.com/media/a3d57bN/a495BE79_700wa_0.gif Then A&M will give him another raise and contract extension for another 8-4 year, because reasons. https://m.popkey.co/7afad7/b0gbq.gif And I'll continue to enjoy hanging with yall in this thread like I do every year. https://media.giphy.com/media/68LZZVCw4tJF6/giphy.gif View Quote I admit, I bought into it. I saw them play and said, "Oh shit! Look at this team! They're gonna tear up the SEC" Then 'poof'......fizzled into a steaming pile of poop. Summlin is your problem. He needs to go. |
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Sumlin definitely needs to go. I think Miles is still available.
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I was and still am a big fan of his. Poor gametime decisions aside, he was well liked locally.
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It seems like all Les was missing at LSU was a solid QB developer. I'll be interested to see where he ends up landing and I'll be pulling for him.
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It seems like all Les was missing at LSU was a solid QB developer. I'll be interested to see where he ends up landing and I'll be pulling for him. View Quote I remember the Nebraska games from the 90s. They were the masters of that style of football. But you always had to concuss a good QB for it to work. Now you can't do that anymore. |
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Yes it is crazy. Fanbases are more impatient that ever to win and are ready to switch coaches every few years in search of that magic bulllet. Truth is there just aren't that many top guys to go around and then nothing is a given. As much as I've voiced a desire to get rid of Sumlin I have reservations of who A&M could hire that would be any better. I could throw a few names out there but again they could come in and go 8-4 on average too. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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The coaching thing is insane now. Harbaugh is a great coach. Michigan can't do any better. Not every team can hire Nick Saban. In my mind, you could safely put Saban, Meyers, Fisher, Sweeny, and Stoops ahead of Harbaugh. But except for Saban, who is a genius, most of that is experience. Harbaugh could easily catch the other four. Or he could not. A lot depends on the players. Fanbases are more impatient that ever to win and are ready to switch coaches every few years in search of that magic bulllet. Truth is there just aren't that many top guys to go around and then nothing is a given. As much as I've voiced a desire to get rid of Sumlin I have reservations of who A&M could hire that would be any better. I could throw a few names out there but again they could come in and go 8-4 on average too. In my always sunny Aggie side I am hopeful that a team of young kids, given very little chance to succeed, pulls it together and surprises the heck out of all of us. |
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An early run of success will make me cautiously optimistic. http://media1.popsugar-assets.com/files/2014/11/12/011/n/1922283/7e8018e182dd5402_anyqppLPKFox9.xxxlarge/i/Being-Optimistic.gif We will beat a team we shouldn't, the media will hype us as playoff contenders and I will start chugging the Maroon Kool Aide like so: https://i.makeagif.com/media/5-01-2016/JWyLbh.gif Then we will lose to a team we shouldn't, the media that hyped us will say "who ever took this team seriously", and I'll just be over here like "you're the only ones who thought they'd do anything, tards" http://www.reactiongifs.us/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/raining_david_tennant_nosedrip.gif Players will get in trouble because Sumlin doesn't give an eff about discipline. https://img-comment-fun.9cache.com/media/a3d57bN/a495BE79_700wa_0.gif Then A&M will give him another raise and contract extension for another 8-4 year, because reasons. https://m.popkey.co/7afad7/b0gbq.gif And I'll continue to enjoy hanging with yall in this thread like I do every year. https://media.giphy.com/media/68LZZVCw4tJF6/giphy.gif View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Post your predictions for the team this year. http://media1.popsugar-assets.com/files/2014/11/12/011/n/1922283/7e8018e182dd5402_anyqppLPKFox9.xxxlarge/i/Being-Optimistic.gif We will beat a team we shouldn't, the media will hype us as playoff contenders and I will start chugging the Maroon Kool Aide like so: https://i.makeagif.com/media/5-01-2016/JWyLbh.gif Then we will lose to a team we shouldn't, the media that hyped us will say "who ever took this team seriously", and I'll just be over here like "you're the only ones who thought they'd do anything, tards" http://www.reactiongifs.us/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/raining_david_tennant_nosedrip.gif Players will get in trouble because Sumlin doesn't give an eff about discipline. https://img-comment-fun.9cache.com/media/a3d57bN/a495BE79_700wa_0.gif Then A&M will give him another raise and contract extension for another 8-4 year, because reasons. https://m.popkey.co/7afad7/b0gbq.gif And I'll continue to enjoy hanging with yall in this thread like I do every year. https://media.giphy.com/media/68LZZVCw4tJF6/giphy.gif |
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I was and still am a big fan of his. Poor gametime decisions aside, he was well liked locally. View Quote I think you guys could have done a lot better than Orgeron, I just don't see that as a good hire. I like the guy, and he may end up building a monster there, but LSU can draw an elite coach. |
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Chad Morris seems to be the name on everyone's list. I get it, he's an Ag, he did pretty well as Clemson's OC, but man I just don't know at this point. We have been so snake bit with coaches since RC that I am nervous as all get out about the post-Sumlin era if this season goes as it appears that it will. In my always sunny Aggie side I am hopeful that a team of young kids, given very little chance to succeed, pulls it together and surprises the heck out of all of us. View Quote That's based on typical quality of opponents year in and year out. I'll have to see more info on opponents returning starters, depth etc before saying that's A&Ms ceiling for wins. Like you mentioned maybe those youngsters will surprise some folks. I think if Sumlin doesn't win 8 or 9 games this year though he's gone as his buyout will be manageable. 8 might save his job simply because of the amount of youth on the team. 9 wins and he's gtg. Another factor will be how well Herman does at Texas. As strange as that might sound to some if Texas goes 8-4 or 9-3 the heat is going to be turned up substantially on Sumlin. |
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I'm patiently waiting for our resident Gator fans to show up
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Gators will beat Michigan by two touchdowns or more on opening day at Jerry's World. Hairball wont know what hit him, dude is a joke and his team sucks.
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Get that man some jorts!!!
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Wasn't the same thing said a couple years ago when they played st the citrus bowl? Michigan will win by 3. Go blue! View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Gators will beat Michigan by two touchdowns or more on opening day at Jerry's World. Hairball wont know what hit him, dude is a joke and his team sucks. Good Luck with that. |
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