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10/8/2006 5:59:54 PM EDT
Alot of nice weapons in this flic...but I have one question. What gun does The Terminator use for the majority of the menu? The lever action one? Everyone refers to it as a shotgun, but I've never seen a shotgun that's lever action or one that leaves just one large hole in things (unless he uses slugs exclusively?)? Great movie...best terminator easily!
10/8/2006 6:06:43 PM EDT
[#1]
Its a winchester Lever action shotgun.  It only leaves one large hole becaus eits a freaking movie and he isnt really shooting anything
10/8/2006 6:20:21 PM EDT
[#2]
Gotchya, what gauge shotgun? Gotta link to the actual gun?
10/8/2006 6:24:33 PM EDT
[#3]
cut and paste


http://www.texasranger.org/dispatch/11/Pages/Winchester.htm
10/9/2006 9:09:12 AM EDT
[#4]
 10 gauge I believe.
10/9/2006 9:14:14 AM EDT
[#5]
It's a Winchester 1887.  A handful of years ago the company Tristar was going to bring these to the US but it fell through in the end.

Now a chinese copy is available here.

10/9/2006 9:19:14 AM EDT
[#6]
A modified Winchester model 1887, another fine work of the prophet.

Peace be upon him.
10/9/2006 9:28:35 AM EDT
[#7]


Winchester 1887 lever-action shotgun - 12 gauge



Same shotgun, but modified for the movie.



10/9/2006 1:43:11 PM EDT
[#8]
Wonder why they chose that gun...kind of outdated!
10/9/2006 1:53:30 PM EDT
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Wonder why they chose that gun...kind of outdated!



Because it looks cool when you swing it around
10/9/2006 2:45:31 PM EDT
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Its a winchester Lever action shotgun.  It only leaves one large hole becaus eits a freaking movie and he isnt really shooting anything


Slugs?
10/9/2006 2:48:50 PM EDT
[#11]

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Wonder why they chose that gun...kind of outdated!



Because it looks cool when you swing it around


+1 especially riding the HD.  Kudos to whomever found it to make it happen, since it is one of the most obscure guns to ever make it into modern major film...
10/9/2006 3:57:56 PM EDT
[#12]
It'd be cool to get one...for that terminator feel :)

Was the minigun in the movie real? I read on IMDB that Arnold was the only one able to lift it!
10/9/2006 5:17:18 PM EDT
[#13]

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It'd be cool to get one...for that terminator feel :)

Was the minigun in the movie real? I read on IMDB that Arnold was the only one able to lift it!

Yes a real m134. It was a rental from the now defunct Stembridge Gun Rental company which provided guns for a bunch of movies. I believe it was the same one from the Predator film. They had to lower the rpm so it could be handled when fired and also so it would use less juice. That part was left out of the movie, I guess the terminator just plugged the gun into himself?
10/10/2006 9:57:17 AM EDT
[#14]

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It'd be cool to get one...for that terminator feel :)

Was the minigun in the movie real? I read on IMDB that Arnold was the only one able to lift it!

Yes a real m134. It was a rental from the now defunct Stembridge Gun Rental company which provided guns for a bunch of movies. I believe it was the same one from the Predator film. They had to lower the rpm so it could be handled when fired and also so it would use less juice. That part was left out of the movie, I guess the terminator just plugged the gun into himself?


What kind of power source did it have to be plugged into? What in the hell are miniguns used for anyways? Is that a weapon off of aircraft? And why is it called a minigun? hah
10/10/2006 11:55:21 AM EDT
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What kind of power source did it have to be plugged into? What in the hell are miniguns used for anyways? Is that a weapon off of aircraft? And why is it called a minigun? hah


Not sure on power source.  They're designed for military aircraft use so whatever voltage an AC-47 or helo would have.
The high rate of fire is great for aircraft use because of the short time window to engage targets.  
Called a 'minigun' because it's a scaled down 7.62 NATO version of the G.E. Vulcan fighter aircraft 20mm cannon.  
10/10/2006 12:01:18 PM EDT
[#16]

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What kind of power source did it have to be plugged into? What in the hell are miniguns used for anyways? Is that a weapon off of aircraft? And why is it called a minigun? hah


Not sure on power source.  They're designed for military aircraft use so whatever voltage an AC-47 or helo would have.
The high rate of fire is great for aircraft use because of the short time window to engage targets.  
Called a 'minigun' because it's a scaled down 7.62 NATO version of the G.E. Vulcan fighter aircraft 20mm cannon.  


So basically they took a minigun off a helicopter, and put hand controls and a strap on it? 7.62 is how much smaller than 20mm?

Got a pic of both rounds ? :)
10/17/2006 5:02:03 AM EDT
[#17]

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What kind of power source did it have to be plugged into? What in the hell are miniguns used for anyways? Is that a weapon off of aircraft? And why is it called a minigun? hah


Not sure on power source.  They're designed for military aircraft use so whatever voltage an AC-47 or helo would have.
The high rate of fire is great for aircraft use because of the short time window to engage targets.  
Called a 'minigun' because it's a scaled down 7.62 NATO version of the G.E. Vulcan fighter aircraft 20mm cannon.  


You pretty much have two standard power supplies for aircraft, you either have 115V 400HZ AC, or 28V DC.
10/17/2006 8:29:03 AM EDT
[#18]

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What kind of power source did it have to be plugged into? What in the hell are miniguns used for anyways? Is that a weapon off of aircraft? And why is it called a minigun? hah


Not sure on power source.  They're designed for military aircraft use so whatever voltage an AC-47 or helo would have.
The high rate of fire is great for aircraft use because of the short time window to engage targets.  
Called a 'minigun' because it's a scaled down 7.62 NATO version of the G.E. Vulcan fighter aircraft 20mm cannon.  


So basically they took a minigun off a helicopter, and put hand controls and a strap on it? 7.62 is how much smaller than 20mm?

Got a pic of both rounds ? :)


It is not a 20mm gun that fires 7.62mm rounds. The 20mm version is pretty freaking big and is only fitted to stuff like fighter aircraft, the phalanx CIWS, and some other mobile AA gun system. GE scaled it down to a much smaller size to fire 7.62mm rounds so it could be used by troops. It already has hand controls on it since it is meant to be operated as a fixed position machine gun by door gunners and the like. It was probably modified for the movies to make holding it easier with the crossbar thingie. The recoil/thrust is too great to hold it while firing continuously, so they slowed down down the rate of fire to a more manageable frequency. It still shot fast as hell though.
10/17/2006 8:49:04 AM EDT
[#19]

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You pretty much have two standard power supplies for aircraft, you either have 115V 400HZ AC, or 28V DC.


And when I pilot hands you a shaver, and asks you to put on a different plug so he can use it in the aircraft, just do it.  Then follow him out to the bird and make sure you have a camera.....how those guys had the IQ to bring the wheels off of the ground and bring them back down in less than 2 pieces, I'll never know....
10/17/2006 8:56:25 AM EDT
[#20]

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What kind of power source did it have to be plugged into? What in the hell are miniguns used for anyways? Is that a weapon off of aircraft? And why is it called a minigun? hah


Not sure on power source.  They're designed for military aircraft use so whatever voltage an AC-47 or helo would have.
The high rate of fire is great for aircraft use because of the short time window to engage targets.  
Called a 'minigun' because it's a scaled down 7.62 NATO version of the G.E. Vulcan fighter aircraft 20mm cannon.  


So basically they took a minigun off a helicopter, and put hand controls and a strap on it? 7.62 is how much smaller than 20mm?

Got a pic of both rounds ? :)


It is not a 20mm gun that fires 7.62mm rounds. The 20mm version is pretty freaking big and is only fitted to stuff like fighter aircraft, the phalanx CIWS, and some other mobile AA gun system. GE scaled it down to a much smaller size to fire 7.62mm rounds so it could be used by troops. It already has hand controls on it since it is meant to be operated as a fixed position machine gun by door gunners and the like. It was probably modified for the movies to make holding it easier with the crossbar thingie. The recoil/thrust is too great to hold it while firing continuously, so they slowed down down the rate of fire to a more manageable frequency. It still shot fast as hell though.


Gotchya, so  I'm assuming they were using blanks while firing it?  How fast does that thing normally spin?
10/17/2006 11:35:33 AM EDT
[#21]
"Normal" speed is like 3000-5000 rounds per minute or so. They probably slowed it down to 1000-1500ish for the movie.
10/17/2006 12:24:31 PM EDT
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"Normal" speed is like 3000-5000 rounds per minute or so. They probably slowed it down to 1000-1500ish for the movie.


Holy shit!
10/17/2006 6:18:50 PM EDT
[#23]
IIRC it was the same rig used in predator,

10/17/2006 11:26:13 PM EDT
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IIRC it was the same rig used in predator,



Correct. The same minigun was used in Predator and Terminator 2. I wonder if the same one was used in the movie Soldier and the Matrix?
10/18/2006 7:36:40 AM EDT
[#25]
www.pureluckdesign.com/videos/Dillon%20minigun%20demo.jpg
and
www.dillonaero.com/videos.html
Mini's in action.
Figure 1 in 5 is a tracer, and THEN count rounds!

Oh, and a neat animation for all you home-builders out there....
www.pureluckdesign.com/videos/Gau17animation.wmv
10/18/2006 7:40:58 PM EDT
[#26]

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IIRC it was the same rig used in predator,



Yep, and I'm proud to say that I've held that very gun.
10/21/2006 1:40:42 PM EDT
[#27]
I have an original press kit for "Predator" and it mentioned two 12 volt batteries were required to power the minigun.

They chose to use a chopped lever action shotgun because it was cool and a new generation of moviegoers could see an actor flip one John Wayne style.

Kinda funny how everyone seemed to carry 1911's in T2. Except the T1000, of course.

Scott

10/22/2006 10:09:50 AM EDT
[#28]
The used several 1887 lever action shotguns in the movie. If you notice when he is on the bike the shotgun has an Wrangler or large lever loop...and for the rest of the film it is the standard loop.