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4/8/2017 5:59:41 PM EDT
There's a line of these winged beasts coming in from a window.

The house was treated with sentricon professionally in October and was also treated with a liquid chemical where an old infestation was at that time. Then I sprayed about a month later using talstar pro, the entire house inside and out.

Now they are coming in from the opposite side of the house. I haven't been home to see how many or if the trail is coming from outside or in my walls, but there is definitely a steady line of them.
4/8/2017 6:04:30 PM EDT
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Sounds like fire may be the only solution.
4/8/2017 6:06:31 PM EDT
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I rented a house once that had them.  Several other houses in the neighborhood had them too.  Pretty much destroyed the houses even though they had been professionally treated.  The one I lived in over 20 years ago was demolished recently.  If they find a path to the house's wood there is no stopping them.
4/8/2017 6:13:54 PM EDT
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Talstar Pro. There's your problem.

There's a lot better product, and ones more suited to termites to maintain with, after treatment for termites.
4/8/2017 6:22:20 PM EDT
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FPNI... grab your important documents and leave that yankee candle near the open winow with curtains flapping in the breeze.
4/8/2017 6:26:38 PM EDT
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Talstar Pro. There's your problem.

There's a lot better product, and ones more suited to termites to maintain with, after treatment for termites.
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What product would you recommend?
4/8/2017 6:28:29 PM EDT
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Dont waste your time with bait stations unless you have no choice.

Termidor is the answer.
4/8/2017 6:39:45 PM EDT
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Dont waste your time with bait stations unless you have no choice.

Termidor is the answer.
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I used this.  I had a corner where they had gotten it.  

Got it on Ebay. Concentrate.  Dug a 10" deep trench around the house.  Followed the mix ratio on the container. Poured into trench and backfilled.


I also drilled holes in my block around the basement. I use a sprayer and shot the inside of the block with it

Also drilled holes in the base of the drywall around the infestation area. Sparyed the Termidor in there.


Also go the Sentricon stations and put them all over the outside of the house.  I got an estimate from a termite control company and that is what they use.  They wanted $1200 I got them on Ebay for under $300.  Same thing.

Just had to get a boring bit to make the holes.

Problem is gone.
4/8/2017 6:52:35 PM EDT
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I used this.  I had a corner where they had gotten it.  

Got it on Ebay. Concentrate.  Dug a 10" deep trench around the house.  Followed the mix ratio on the container. Poured into trench and backfilled.


I also drilled holes in my block around the basement. I use a sprayer and shot the inside of the block with it

Also drilled holes in the base of the drywall around the infestation area. Sparyed the Termidor in there
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Also go the Sentricon stations and put them all over the outside of the house.  I got an estimate from a termite control company and that is what they use.  They wanted $1200 I got them on Ebay for under $300.  Same thing.

Just had to get a boring bit to make the holes.

Problem is gone.
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This guy knows what he's doing.
4/8/2017 7:39:35 PM EDT
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Permethrin also does wonders on various bugs
4/8/2017 11:33:53 PM EDT
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those could be flying ants, which do their thing the first two warm weeks of the spring.

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The house was treated with sentricon professionally in October and was also treated with a liquid chemical where an old infestation was at that time. Then I sprayed about a month later using talstar pro, the entire house inside and out.  Now they are coming in from the opposite side of the house. I haven't been home to see how many or if the trail is coming from outside or in my walls, but there is definitely a steady line of them.
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just note, killing the flying (swarming) termites, or even the workers currently above ground, isn't going to do shit about a termite problem.

you are battling a couple million years of evolution here. they don't go away when you kill 0.01% of their population. they just take another approach.

Fipronil, the ingredient in Termidor, works differently, and works in a way that is very effective against termites.

termite pesticide application is best done by applying it to the soil before the foundation is poured, after the pour but before the soil is pushed back up against the block, by "rodding" (inserting a hollow rod down against the foundation), or by placing baited traps (wood with Fipronil) in key locations. in no case will you be filling a garden sprayer with Termidor and spraying the ground –– this is not an effective use of the chemical and will not make an impact on the termites. they do not live on the ground; the live in a colony ranging from one hundred to ten million inhabitants about 2-6 feet below the ground. the mud paths they build into an above-ground structure are protection from predators such as ants, and allow the worker termites safe transit to bring food (semi-digested moist wood) back to the colony. in no case, unless there is some disruption to their mud tunnels, will you be able to see or spray termites directly. they work in stealth mode. instead, you have to get them to feed on wood treated with a pesticide, and Fipronil works well in this mode.

Fipronil does not (initially) kill a dosed termite. worker termites exposed to Fipronil travel back to the underground colony and deposit "food" (it's actually their crap) for the other colony members to eat. this occurs for 3-7 days. eventually about 10-20% of the colony has been exposed to Fipronil. but it's an important 10-20%. the pesticide then shuts off an enzyme in their brain and they have a seizure. the problem for the colony now is that the worker termites are all dead. the FSA in the termite colony stands around waiting for the food to be brought to them. that doesn't happen. the colony collapses.

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effective termite control is not simple, and it's extremely easy to kill a lot of other beneficial insects in the process. for example –– pesticides like Fipronil also kill bees, and in fact several US states and other countries have heavily restricted Fipronil use based on research linking it to honey bee colony collapse. Fipronil will also kill ants, the natural enemy of termites. too few ants will lead to more termites.

ar-jedi
4/8/2017 11:40:07 PM EDT
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those could be flying ants, which do their thing the first two warm weeks of the spring.


just note, killing the flying (swarming) termites, or even the workers currently above ground, isn't going to do shit about a termite problem.

you are battling a couple million years of evolution here. they don't go away when you kill 0.01% of their population. they just take another approach.

Fipronil, the ingredient in Termidor, works differently, and works in a way that is very effective against termites.

termite pesticide application is best done by applying it to the soil before the foundation is poured, after the pour but before the soil is pushed back up against the block, by "rodding" (inserting a hollow rod down against the foundation), or by placing baited traps (wood with Fipronil) in key locations. in no case will you be filling a garden sprayer with Termidor and spraying the ground –– this is not an effective use of the chemical and will not make an impact on the termites. they do not live on the ground; the live in a colony ranging from one hundred to ten million inhabitants about 2-6 feet below the ground. the mud paths they build into an above-ground structure are protection from predators such as ants, and allow the worker termites safe transit to bring food (semi-digested moist wood) back to the colony. in no case, unless there is some disruption to their mud tunnels, will you be able to see or spray termites directly. they work in stealth mode. instead, you have to get them to feed on wood treated with a pesticide, and Fipronil works well in this mode.

Fipronil does not (initially) kill a dosed termite. worker termites exposed to Fipronil travel back to the underground colony and deposit "food" (it's actually their crap) for the other colony members to eat. this occurs for 3-7 days. eventually about 10-20% of the colony has been exposed to Fipronil. but it's an important 10-20%. the pesticide then shuts off an enzyme in their brain and they have a seizure. the problem for the colony now is that the worker termites are all dead. the FSA in the termite colony stands around waiting for the food to be brought to them. that doesn't happen. the colony collapses.

ps
effective termite control is not simple, and it's extremely easy to kill a lot of other beneficial insects in the process. for example –– pesticides like Fipronil also kill bees, and in fact several US states and other countries have heavily restricted Fipronil use based on research linking it to honey bee colony collapse. Fipronil will also kill ants, the natural enemy of termites. too few ants will lead to more termites.

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Wow!  Nice write up!

Are you in the pest control business?  Sure sounds like it.
4/8/2017 11:54:06 PM EDT
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Wow!  Nice write up!
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no.  i learned a lot about termites.  

http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_1_5/1032127_-ARCHIVED-THREAD----Builders-construction-types--tell-me-what-to-do-----UPDATE--5-ON-PAGE-3-----56K-PLS-UPGRADE-NOW---.html&page=1

ar-jedi
4/9/2017 12:03:18 AM EDT
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What product would you recommend?
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termidor
4/9/2017 12:16:28 AM EDT
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Not going to violate Fed law and all that shit.....


Admire Pro works great for neutralizing pests that reproduce in the soil, and attack crops.


The active ingredient in Admire pro is proven, in many crops.

I would NEVER violate the terms of my applicator License.
4/9/2017 12:55:29 AM EDT
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just note, killing the flying (swarming) termites, or even the workers currently above ground, isn't going to do shit about a termite problem.

you are battling a couple million years of evolution here. they don't go away when you kill 0.01% of their population. they just take another approach.
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How far will swarming termites go?  Just because they landed on his house does not mean they are in or under his house.  The termites will still want something easy to eat, so is there any rotting or soft wood exposed at the OPs house?  They aren't that interested in hard dry wood.  

These came out of the rotting wall in a house I purchased.  Only the wet wood soaked by a leak in the roof was eaten.  The other areas has some termite trails over them but the dry wood was left alone.  I think it had been less than a week since I had closed on the place.  I knew the wall the damaged and saw minor termite activity.  A warm spell after the spring rains brought the swarm out.  Thankfully I had a 4 gallon sprayer already full of water and a container of termite killer from Lowes.  I mixed it quick and took out most of the swarm inside and outside the house.

Even if it didn't really make a dent in their population I still took great pleasure in killing thousands of termites.

4/9/2017 8:27:21 AM EDT
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Although I live too far north and don't deal with termites, I do use and recommend Termidor.

I use it for ant control for my PC Business