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7/18/2013 12:34:47 PM EDT
Awesome vid, that deserves its own thread.

7/18/2013 12:39:14 PM EDT
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Ya Know?....Boom!
7/18/2013 1:42:12 PM EDT
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That is an incredibly sophisticated production line.  I had no idea Tesla was geared up so well.
7/18/2013 1:50:20 PM EDT
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This.

Impressive for what is basically a small market manufacturer.
7/18/2013 1:52:05 PM EDT
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Electric cars are smokin hot


7/18/2013 1:55:25 PM EDT
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Thats all it takes to start a car company, thats what a few thousand in machinery?
7/18/2013 1:56:21 PM EDT
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Elon Musk is a fucking genius and runs Space X too.
7/18/2013 1:57:51 PM EDT
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Very cool.  I have a friend who works in their marketing department.
7/18/2013 2:03:52 PM EDT
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Very cool to see the cars go from raw ribbon to finished product in one location.    That looks to be a very efficient production line.
7/18/2013 2:06:11 PM EDT
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Very weird.

I think I have seen more gas powered cars burn up in my life than electric  YMMV    
7/18/2013 2:07:09 PM EDT
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Ford and Prius
7/18/2013 2:07:12 PM EDT
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What, do about 10 people work in that facility?



I hardly saw a human touch it up to the painting of the body when I stopped watching.
7/18/2013 2:15:07 PM EDT
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You make it sound like it's a bad thing...

http://www.economist.com/news/special-report/21576218-tesla-has-high-hopes-its-high-spec-electric-cars-general-electric-motors

So far Tesla is using only a quarter of the Fremont plant’s vast area. This year it plans to make just 20,000 cars as it concentrates on moving into profit. Mr Musk acquired the factory for $42m, far less than it would have cost to build, and bought lots of second-hand equipment.
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Working in Tesla’s favour is its lack of baggage of any kind. It has no internal-combustion technology to defend, and thus no problem in reaching regulators’ ever tighter targets for fuel efficiency. It has no inherited pension and health-care liabilities and no auto workers’ union. In the past premium car brands have typically taken decades to establish themselves, but perhaps the “millennial” generation, used to seeing new smartphones rise and old ones fall, will be more open to start-up brands, especially ones from Silicon Valley.


http://www.wired.com/business/2009/06/elon-musk-on-the-inevitability-of-the-ev-running-detroit-and-firing-a-certain-someone/
Part of the problem with Detroit, he says, is the union system. “It’s not out of the question to have unions, but if there’s going to be a union, they’d better understand that they’re on the same side as the company,” he added. “I’m against having a two-class system where you’ve got the workers and then the managers, sort of like nobles and peasants…

“Most of our experienced factory workers come from unionized environments, and we asked them what benefit did they see in unions,” he added. “They said, ‘Well, if their boss was an asshole, they had recourse.’

“I said, ‘Let’s make a rule: There will be no assholes.’ I fired someone for being an asshole. And I only had to do that once, actually.”
7/18/2013 2:26:42 PM EDT
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So awesome!






I want one
7/18/2013 2:33:14 PM EDT
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God bless tesla.

Fuck the unions, and especially fuck all car dealers.

7/18/2013 2:45:18 PM EDT
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That's pretty awesome!

I didn't realize they painted the body with final coat before any final assembly started, but it makes sense.   I thought there would be too many places for it to get scratched on the finishing line.
7/18/2013 2:46:58 PM EDT
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Yup.  When I was a fire fighter, I had to pull the bodies of 5 kids out of a car that burned after an accident.
7/18/2013 2:47:30 PM EDT
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in


7/18/2013 2:51:54 PM EDT
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Few million
7/18/2013 2:55:59 PM EDT
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Tesla is doing well these days.

Currently producing 400 Model S cars a week.

Link
7/18/2013 2:56:59 PM EDT
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3,000 according to the video.



 
7/18/2013 2:59:16 PM EDT
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I toured that plant back when it was NUMMI ( Toyota GM joint venture )  would love to tour it as Tesla.
7/18/2013 2:59:33 PM EDT
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If I worked for Tesla I would be wondering how long before a robot replaces me
7/18/2013 3:00:56 PM EDT
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Wow. I'm impressed.
7/18/2013 3:01:42 PM EDT
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Few million
Few tens of millions, but who's counting?
7/18/2013 3:01:47 PM EDT
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The idea isn't to work for Tesla on the production line. You want to be the guy designing/implementing/troubleshooting/improving the robots.
7/18/2013 3:04:10 PM EDT
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I saw a Tesla parked near my work literally yesterday.  I had to drive up to it to figure out what maker it was.  Sharp looking car, looked expensive.



How much are they going for?
7/18/2013 3:06:18 PM EDT
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Nice.
7/18/2013 3:06:23 PM EDT
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I'm a Tesla fan.



Making cool shit in the US of A.




Fuck yeah.
7/18/2013 3:07:10 PM EDT
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Seems that Musk runs it more like a tech company than a manufacture.
7/18/2013 3:07:42 PM EDT
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They start at $62,400. You can go all the way up to ~$100,000 if you option the shit out of it.
7/18/2013 3:07:56 PM EDT
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Meanwhile, Detroit goes broke.
7/18/2013 3:12:14 PM EDT
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Robots don't replace people in manufacturing, they augment them.



I huge part of what I actually do for a living is building prototype parts by hand,  developing the process for assembly and manufacture,  then I figure out if I can get a machine to do it.  


Doing that to an existing job on a line is interesting, because you talk to the operator and figure out what he does,  then I get a machine to mimic it,  and I train him how to run the robot.  


So the guy who puts in screws is now supervising 3 machines that can do 10 times the work he could.  and since we are using robots now,  we have to put in airconditioning.  So he gets upgraded to a robot tech with a payraise, and gets airconditioning.  


win-fucking-win
7/18/2013 3:12:17 PM EDT
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They start at $62,400. You can go all the way up to ~$100,000 if you option the shit out of it.






Yep, just saw their page.  http://www.teslamotors.com/models/options



Knowing nothing about them, a 230 mile range, any where to find a comparison on money spent to charge batteries daily compared to gasoline cost?




 
 
7/18/2013 3:13:30 PM EDT
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Seems that Musk runs it more like a tech company than a manufacture.
Exactly his plan. And he has said so in public. He is way smarter than people think. He is changing the course of the U.S. and the world.
7/18/2013 3:15:05 PM EDT
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I always pictured a bunch of dirty hippies in a garage. Impressive.
7/18/2013 3:15:19 PM EDT
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You need a 40amp circuit to charge them if you drive over 150 miles daily.  




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They start at $62,400. You can go all the way up to ~$100,000 if you option the shit out of it.




Yep, just saw their page.  http://www.teslamotors.com/models/options



Knowing nothing about them, a 230 mile range, any where to find a comparison on money spent to charge batteries daily compared to gasoline cost?

   




Found it.  http://www.teslamotors.com/goelectric#savings



 
7/18/2013 3:18:43 PM EDT
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A $7500 federal tax credit as well.
7/18/2013 3:19:25 PM EDT
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Easy to do when a South African billionaire uses taxpayer money and is politically favored.

Will be more interesting when electricity prices necessarily skyrocket with the fedgov's war on coal.
7/18/2013 3:19:43 PM EDT
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Hah.  Yup.


The Tesla sales model is fascinating as well.  I haven't seen a dealership yet, but I have seen stores in malls with completed cars.  Customers look at the car, and special order what they want.  All at the mall.
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Hah.  Yup.


The Tesla sales model is fascinating as well.  I haven't seen a dealership yet, but I have seen stores in malls with completed cars.  Customers look at the car, and special order what they want.  All at the mall.
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The Tesla sales model is fascinating as well.  I haven't seen a dealership yet, but I have seen stores in malls with completed cars.  Customers look at the car, and special order what they want.  All at the mall.




fiat does the same thing
7/18/2013 3:24:16 PM EDT
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Maybe for one of the suction cup assemblies for one of the machines. Everything in that shop was probably 50 mil
7/18/2013 3:24:44 PM EDT
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Long overdue. The traditional car dealer really needs to go the way of the dodo. I hope it does, someday.
7/18/2013 3:33:27 PM EDT
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I can see that job being replaced by a robot in the not too distant future.  A. I. will eventually catch up anf the terminator will live.  Maybe just the terminator of jobs though I hope.
7/18/2013 3:34:22 PM EDT
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Long overdue. The traditional car dealer really needs to go the way of the dodo. I hope it does, someday.




 



How is service handled?
7/18/2013 3:39:59 PM EDT
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Hah.  Yup.


The Tesla sales model is fascinating as well.  I haven't seen a dealership yet, but I have seen stores in malls with completed cars.  Customers look at the car, and special order what they want.  All at the mall.

 

Long overdue. The traditional car dealer really needs to go the way of the dodo. I hope it does, someday.

 

How is service handled?




Mail it back?


Send it to an independent or a registered service center?




Or maybe they just don't break.



Or maybe they don't come with a warranty
7/18/2013 3:43:47 PM EDT
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I've been driving a Tesla Model S Performance for the past 2 weeks, and I'm convinced Tesla is the future.  The Volt, Leaf, Prius are all a joke compared to Tesla; its not fair to even put them in the same class.  The Tesla is as fast, if not faster, than a new Corvette (0-60 ~4s), plus comfortably seats 5 people and all their luggage.  With 250 miles of range, the average commuter only needs to plug it into a 220v dryer plug once a week.

The machines that install the batteries are $500k, and are the same machines slowly being installed in the battery swap stations across the US.

7/18/2013 3:44:18 PM EDT
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The Tesla sales model is fascinating as well.  I haven't seen a dealership yet, but I have seen stores in malls with completed cars.  Customers look at the car, and special order what they want.  All at the mall.


 



Long overdue. The traditional car dealer really needs to go the way of the dodo. I hope it does, someday.


 



How is service handled?




 



At Tesla service centers.
7/18/2013 3:46:44 PM EDT
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Hah.  Yup.


The Tesla sales model is fascinating as well.  I haven't seen a dealership yet, but I have seen stores in malls with completed cars.  Customers look at the car, and special order what they want.  All at the mall.

 

Long overdue. The traditional car dealer really needs to go the way of the dodo. I hope it does, someday.

 

How is service handled?




Mail it back?


Send it to an independent or a registered service center?




Or maybe they just don't break.



Or maybe they don't come with a warranty


Wholly owned service centers, with a house call model purportedly modeled after the Best Buy "Geek Squad" concept.  They add charges based on distance.

http://www.teslamotors.com/service#/tesla-service

Not cheap, but then again its a luxury product and was always meant to be.
7/18/2013 3:47:39 PM EDT
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Pretty cool stuff.
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