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1/10/2012 6:19:57 PM EDT
Say what you want about Texas, they have some great history. I just got back from the Alamo, and it is a nice place to visit. Thinking about the men who stayed while you are actually there is humbling.





1/10/2012 6:47:38 PM EDT
[#1]
No Doubt. Thank you, pen, for the glowing review. It is awesome to imagine the last few moments

of battle as muskets are being swung as clubs, flintlock pistols firing, and ass-kickin' and name-takin'

goin' on as the last few pockets of Brave Men are taken out. Very Sobering. But What a Legacy.


zulu
1/10/2012 6:51:14 PM EDT
[#2]
Secede !!!!!!!
1/10/2012 6:52:48 PM EDT
[#3]





did you know the Alamo which you saw was not originally in that location?












1/10/2012 6:56:10 PM EDT
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did you know the Alamo which you saw was not originally in that location?






1/10/2012 7:04:10 PM EDT
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You should read about Goliad. The other half of Santa Ana's army, the battle & the massacre there also.

Very interesting.
1/10/2012 7:05:37 PM EDT
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did you know the Alamo which you saw was not originally in that location?






1/10/2012 7:05:57 PM EDT
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did you know the Alamo which you saw was not originally in that location?






You're going ot have to elaborate on that one, because my understanding is that site has been used since 1724 originally for a mission, and then for various  other purposes until it was finally restored.

1/10/2012 7:07:22 PM EDT
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did you know the Alamo which you saw was not originally in that location?






WHAT??  You should come visit sometime.

And thank you Pen, I love it too.
1/10/2012 7:07:24 PM EDT
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did you know the Alamo which you saw was not originally in that location?
















You're going ot have to elaborate on that one, because my understanding is that site has been used since 1724 originally for a mission, and then for various  other purposes until it was finally restored.









 
the actual building was moved from it's original location to where it now sits.




at least that's what i read on the internetz






1/10/2012 7:08:23 PM EDT
[#10]
I live in SA so I get to go to the Alamo whenever family or friends come to town for a visit.

I get goosebumps every time I go.

Those Alamo dudes were some brave SOBs.
1/10/2012 7:09:42 PM EDT
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did you know the Alamo which you saw was not originally in that location?






You're going ot have to elaborate on that one, because my understanding is that site has been used since 1724 originally for a mission, and then for various  other purposes until it was finally restored.



 
the actual building was moved from it's original location to where it now sits.

at least that's what i read on the internetz




Oh man........no.
1/10/2012 7:10:50 PM EDT
[#12]
Thanks for visiting.

The Alamo is a very meaningful place for a lot of Texans and that includes me.

Personally, I don't like the way they run it. I believe it should be done in a more respectful manner like most memorials and battle sites. Its become to "commercial".
1/10/2012 7:12:20 PM EDT
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did you know the Alamo which you saw was not originally in that location?






You're going ot have to elaborate on that one, because my understanding is that site has been used since 1724 originally for a mission, and then for various  other purposes until it was finally restored.



 
the actual building was moved from it's original location to where it now sits.

at least that's what i read on the internetz




Oh man........no.


The mission was moved back in the 1700s (1720 something) because of flooding issues. That being said, the mission is not the building.
1/10/2012 7:13:33 PM EDT
[#14]
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did you know the Alamo which you saw was not originally in that location?






You're going ot have to elaborate on that one, because my understanding is that site has been used since 1724 originally for a mission, and then for various  other purposes until it was finally restored.



 
the actual building was moved from it's original location to where it now sits.

at least that's what i read on the internetz




No.  The entire mission is much larger, but alot of it is gone now.  And it's easy to see why, considering it's basically smack dab in the middle of downtown San Antonio.  

The chapel that everyone recognizes was bought and preserved by the Daughters of the Republic of Texas in the 20s (I think) when the city wanted to tear it down to make room more room for downtown real estate.
1/10/2012 7:14:18 PM EDT
[#15]
Farah Fawcett and  Z Z Top.


That right there beats most.

Pretty good chili, pretty good Bar-B-Que.

Tito's vodka.


It gets hot.

It gets cold.

Most Texans are pretty decent folks.


Could be a whole lot worse.
1/10/2012 7:18:39 PM EDT
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did you know the Alamo which you saw was not originally in that location?
















You're going ot have to elaborate on that one, because my understanding is that site has been used since 1724 originally for a mission, and then for various  other purposes until it was finally restored.







 
the actual building was moved from it's original location to where it now sits.




at least that's what i read on the internetz










No.  The entire mission is much larger, but alot of it is gone now.  And it's easy to see why, considering it's basically smack dab in the middle of downtown San Antonio.  



The chapel that everyone recognizes was bought and preserved by the Daughters of the Republic of Texas in the 20s (I think) when the city wanted to tear it down to make room more room for downtown real estate.









The building, which gained fame in the Texas Revolution, was originally built as a mission in 1718 near the headwaters of San Pedro Creek. It was moved twice, with the final move to its present location happening in 1724. These original buildings were already over 100 years old by the time the Battle of the Alamo occurred in 1836. At that battle, over 150 "Texians” died, including some of the state’s most famous folk heroes such as Davie Crockett, Jim Bowie and William Barrett Travis.



 


1/10/2012 7:19:15 PM EDT
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did you know the Alamo which you saw was not originally in that location?






You're going ot have to elaborate on that one, because my understanding is that site has been used since 1724 originally for a mission, and then for various  other purposes until it was finally restored.



 
the actual building was moved from it's original location to where it now sits.

at least that's what i read on the internetz




Oh man........no.


The mission was moved back in the 1700s (1720 something) because of flooding issues. That being said, the mission is not the building.


That location that Pen visited is the site where many men fought and died so that my beloved Texas could be free of Santa Anna.  

1/10/2012 7:21:25 PM EDT
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did you know the Alamo which you saw was not originally in that location?






You're going ot have to elaborate on that one, because my understanding is that site has been used since 1724 originally for a mission, and then for various  other purposes until it was finally restored.



 
the actual building was moved from it's original location to where it now sits.

at least that's what i read on the internetz




No.  The entire mission is much larger, but alot of it is gone now.  And it's easy to see why, considering it's basically smack dab in the middle of downtown San Antonio.  

The chapel that everyone recognizes was bought and preserved by the Daughters of the Republic of Texas in the 20s (I think) when the city wanted to tear it down to make room more room for downtown real estate.

The building, which gained fame in the Texas Revolution, was originally built as a mission in 1718 near the headwaters of San Pedro Creek. It was moved twice, with the final move to its present location happening in 1724. These original buildings were already over 100 years old by the time the Battle of the Alamo occurred in 1836. At that battle, over 150 "Texians” died, including some of the state’s most famous folk heroes such as Davie Crockett, Jim Bowie and William Barrett Travis.

 



Source?

I knew the mission moved but did not think it referred to that building. I thought it referred to the "missionaries" so to speak changing locations. I know they moved from one side of the river to the other because of flooding or something like that. How the hell would you relocate a building like that anyway?

I was from Texas until recently.
1/10/2012 7:22:46 PM EDT
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did you know the Alamo which you saw was not originally in that location?
















You're going ot have to elaborate on that one, because my understanding is that site has been used since 1724 originally for a mission, and then for various  other purposes until it was finally restored.







 
the actual building was moved from it's original location to where it now sits.




at least that's what i read on the internetz










No.  The entire mission is much larger, but alot of it is gone now.  And it's easy to see why, considering it's basically smack dab in the middle of downtown San Antonio.  



The chapel that everyone recognizes was bought and preserved by the Daughters of the Republic of Texas in the 20s (I think) when the city wanted to tear it down to make room more room for downtown real estate.









The building, which gained fame in the Texas Revolution, was originally built as a mission in 1718 near the headwaters of San Pedro Creek. It was moved twice, with the final move to its present location happening in 1724. These original buildings were already over 100 years old by the time the Battle of the Alamo occurred in 1836. At that battle, over 150 "Texians” died, including some of the state’s most famous folk heroes such as Davie Crockett, Jim Bowie and William Barrett Travis.



 






Source?



I knew the mission moved but did not think it referred to that building. I thought it referred to the "missionaries" so to speak changing locations. I know they moved from one side of the river to the other because of flooding or something like that. How the hell would you relocate a building like that anyway?



I was from Texas until recently.


http://gotexas.about.com/od/attra6/a/TheAlamo.htm



 
1/10/2012 7:22:54 PM EDT
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did you know the Alamo which you saw was not originally in that location?






You're going ot have to elaborate on that one, because my understanding is that site has been used since 1724 originally for a mission, and then for various  other purposes until it was finally restored.



 
the actual building was moved from it's original location to where it now sits.

at least that's what i read on the internetz




No.  The entire mission is much larger, but alot of it is gone now.  And it's easy to see why, considering it's basically smack dab in the middle of downtown San Antonio.  

The chapel that everyone recognizes was bought and preserved by the Daughters of the Republic of Texas in the 20s (I think) when the city wanted to tear it down to make room more room for downtown real estate.

The building, which gained fame in the Texas Revolution, was originally built as a mission in 1718 near the headwaters of San Pedro Creek. It was moved twice, with the final move to its present location happening in 1724. These original buildings were already over 100 years old by the time the Battle of the Alamo occurred in 1836. At that battle, over 150 "Texians” died, including some of the state’s most famous folk heroes such as Davie Crockett, Jim Bowie and William Barrett Travis.

 



Those buildings were  built on site, not moved. The mission was moved, twice, but the buildings were not as they were mud and straw.

In 1724, after remants of a Gulf Coast hurricane destroyed the existing structures at Mission San Antonio de Valero, the mission was moved to its current location.


1/10/2012 7:23:59 PM EDT
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did you know the Alamo which you saw was not originally in that location?






You're going ot have to elaborate on that one, because my understanding is that site has been used since 1724 originally for a mission, and then for various  other purposes until it was finally restored.



 
the actual building was moved from it's original location to where it now sits.

at least that's what i read on the internetz




No.  The entire mission is much larger, but alot of it is gone now.  And it's easy to see why, considering it's basically smack dab in the middle of downtown San Antonio.  

The chapel that everyone recognizes was bought and preserved by the Daughters of the Republic of Texas in the 20s (I think) when the city wanted to tear it down to make room more room for downtown real estate.

The building, which gained fame in the Texas Revolution, was originally built as a mission in 1718 near the headwaters of San Pedro Creek. It was moved twice, with the final move to its present location happening in 1724. These original buildings were already over 100 years old by the time the Battle of the Alamo occurred in 1836. At that battle, over 150 "Texians” died, including some of the state’s most famous folk heroes such as Davie Crockett, Jim Bowie and William Barrett Travis.

 



Those buildings were  built on site, not moved. The mission was moved, twice, but the buildings were not as they were mud and straw.

In 1724, after remants of a Gulf Coast hurricane destroyed the existing structures at Mission San Antonio de Valero, the mission was moved to its current location.




That was it...a hurricane...I knew it was something like that.
1/10/2012 7:25:02 PM EDT
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did you know the Alamo which you saw was not originally in that location?







What?

1/10/2012 7:29:29 PM EDT
[#23]
Took my sons to view it this past summer.  We knelt and said a prayer for those brave patriots in front of the church.  A humbling experience.
1/10/2012 7:43:06 PM EDT
[#24]
Was there a couple of years ago. Were they still doing the dig/restoration in the room off to teh left of the main chapel? They had found some painting on the wall that they were cleaning up
1/10/2012 7:54:18 PM EDT
[#25]

Did you CCW there?

1/10/2012 7:56:07 PM EDT
[#26]
Texas. No Open Carry. Worse gun laws that Virginia. I want to move to Texas, but won't give up rights to do so,
1/10/2012 7:57:51 PM EDT
[#27]
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You should read about Goliad. The other half of Santa Ana's army, the battle & the massacre there also.

Very interesting.


This right here!!

From Victoria and have my ranch in Goliad Co.

The real cry at the battle of San Jacinto was Remember Goliad!

1/10/2012 8:07:37 PM EDT
[#28]
I remember reading in college that Davy Crockett begged for his life before he was killed.


I wonder where the next Alamo will take place in Texas when Mexicans take it back.
1/10/2012 8:12:24 PM EDT
[#29]
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I remember reading in college that Davy Crockett begged for his life before he was killed.


I wonder where the next Alamo will take place in Texas when Mexicans take it back.


They teach Texas history in cosmetology school?
1/10/2012 8:20:12 PM EDT
[#30]

Wait, don't all U.S. public schools spend two semesters on Texas history???

1/10/2012 8:21:58 PM EDT
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Wait, don't all U.S. public schools spend two semesters on Texas history???









 
it takes most public schools two semesters just to learn how to spell Texas.