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10/1/2010 10:39:29 PM EDT
Man builds functioning computer in minecraft

I never played Minecraft before, but I get the basic premise and that is incredible.
10/1/2010 10:41:52 PM EDT
[#1]
TEOTWAWKI
10/1/2010 10:46:04 PM EDT
[#2]
WTF is this Minecraft game?  The resolution is crap, it's like Atari 2600 level graphics.  What is the point?  The premise is incredible? Really?    You build roller coasters out of mine trolley carts?



The FAQ is no road map either, it doesn't even tell you what it is about.  I am getting irritated and hostile just thinking about this.

10/1/2010 10:48:08 PM EDT
[#3]
We have achieved proof of concept - a computer within a computer.

This is how the Matrix is born.

Time to start drilling...

_MaH
10/1/2010 10:56:22 PM EDT
[#4]
Yo dawg. We heard you like computers so we put a computer in your computer so you can compute while you act like a total fucking nerd...
10/1/2010 10:56:53 PM EDT
[#5]
I don't undertstand, he hasn't built anything, it's software acting like hardware inside other software. The only actual computer is the one running Minecraft, or am I missing something.
10/1/2010 10:58:26 PM EDT
[#6]
Minecraft is pretty cool, except when baddies come and destroy your buildingsSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS
10/1/2010 11:06:40 PM EDT
[#7]
Dupe.



http://www.ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=1&f=5&t=1096734&light==
10/1/2010 11:43:48 PM EDT
[#8]
I'm not sure if it's becasue I'm an EE but I'm not impressed and don't see the "big deal".



Really, a program in a program that acts like a computer? I built and implemented ALUs in my freshman hadware software design class. Of course they didn't have some nerdy game interface but whatever.
10/2/2010 12:33:08 AM EDT
[#9]



Quoted:


I don't undertstand, he hasn't built anything, it's software acting like hardware inside other software. The only actual computer is the one running Minecraft, or am I missing something.


Yeah I don't get it. I couldn't decide if my mind was blown or if I just didn't understand. So it's a big, in-game calculator that runs entirely on fire and trails of oil... And he kept saying that it could run code... IF it could do that, what would be the purpose? Do something within a thing that can already do that something thousands of times faster?



 
10/2/2010 4:52:29 AM EDT
[#10]
I say it's cool, so it is.

The OP's video link showcases the interactivity of Minecraft's game world, as can remarkably be held up, despite its low production value, against enormous game worlds such as Grand Theft Auto 4's, which presents a world of outrageously high production investment but no particular interactivity.  You can look but you can't touch.  In Minecraft, everything you see can be touched, and in this case can be made to perform logical operations.
10/2/2010 5:11:11 AM EDT
[#11]
Let's see the guy shut off the computer that is running the game and see if the computer he built within the game can continue running the game.
10/2/2010 5:12:20 AM EDT
[#12]
Quoted:
Yo dawg. We heard you like computers so we put a computer in your computer so you can compute while you act like a total fucking nerd...


I lol'd
10/2/2010 5:18:28 AM EDT
[#13]




Quoted:

Let's see the guy shut off the computer that is running the game and see if the computer he built within the game can continue running the game.


And thats how skynet became self aware...





10/2/2010 5:22:45 AM EDT
[#14]
Quoted:
WTF is this Minecraft game?  The resolution is crap, it's like Atari 2600 level graphics.  What is the point?  The premise is incredible? Really?    You build roller coasters out of mine trolley carts?

The FAQ is no road map either, it doesn't even tell you what it is about.  I am getting irritated and hostile just thinking about this.

What will really blow your mind is that the guy is making $100,000 a day, $14 at a time.
10/2/2010 5:27:30 AM EDT
[#15]



Quoted:


I don't undertstand, he hasn't built anything, it's software acting like hardware inside other software. The only actual computer is the one running Minecraft, or am I missing something.


This is basically like loading a soft synth into your computer.



I have 3 or 4 of them...and THOSE are all 32 and 64 bit.



 
10/2/2010 5:27:38 AM EDT
[#16]




Quoted:



Quoted:

WTF is this Minecraft game? The resolution is crap, it's like Atari 2600 level graphics. What is the point? The premise is incredible? Really? You build roller coasters out of mine trolley carts?



The FAQ is no road map either, it doesn't even tell you what it is about. I am getting irritated and hostile just thinking about this.



What will really blow your mind is that the guy is making $100,000 a day, $14 at a time.


What guy?



(oh, and yes this is a dupe thread)

10/2/2010 5:29:54 AM EDT
[#17]
designing and implementing an ALU is something every sophomore EE student around the country learns to do.

10/2/2010 5:37:07 AM EDT
[#18]
Minecraft is the most fun I've had in a video game since Starcraft came out, and that was over a decade ago.
10/2/2010 5:37:49 AM EDT
[#19]
Quoted:

Quoted:
I don't undertstand, he hasn't built anything, it's software acting like hardware inside other software. The only actual computer is the one running Minecraft, or am I missing something.

Yeah I don't get it. I couldn't decide if my mind was blown or if I just didn't understand. So it's a big, in-game calculator that runs entirely on fire and trails of oil... And he kept saying that it could run code... IF it could do that, what would be the purpose? Do something within a thing that can already do that something thousands of times faster?
 


This is the geek equivalent of a thoroughly ridiculous project car, or a home-built AR15 pistol.  It's not done because it needs to be done, it's done for the sheer fuck of it, to further one's own understanding of the topic, and to demonstrate one's understanding of more pedestrian uses of the technology in ways that don't put us to sleep.

I told off a co-worker via the LCD display on a Laserjet printer.  Subnet's home phone system probably rivals the network closet on Air Force One.  This is how geeks work dude.
10/2/2010 5:38:16 AM EDT
[#20]
Quoted:

Quoted:
Quoted:
WTF is this Minecraft game? The resolution is crap, it's like Atari 2600 level graphics. What is the point? The premise is incredible? Really? You build roller coasters out of mine trolley carts?

The FAQ is no road map either, it doesn't even tell you what it is about. I am getting irritated and hostile just thinking about this.

What will really blow your mind is that the guy is making $100,000 a day, $14 at a time.

What guy?

(oh, and yes this is a dupe thread)

The author of Minecraft.
10/2/2010 5:48:29 AM EDT
[#21]
That video was boring as fucking hell.
10/2/2010 5:50:10 AM EDT
[#22]
Quoted:
That video was boring as fucking hell.


you were expecting a video of ALU functionality to be exciting?

10/2/2010 5:54:16 AM EDT
[#23]
Quoted:
That video was boring as fucking hell.

That's a stupid fucking post.  But, here, just for you:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LnjSWPxJxNs

Bear with it through 1:25.
10/2/2010 5:56:09 AM EDT
[#24]




Quoted:

I say it's cool, so it is.



The OP's video link showcases the interactivity of Minecraft's game world, as can remarkably be held up, despite its low production value, against enormous game worlds such as Grand Theft Auto 4's, which presents a world of outrageously high production investment but no particular interactivity. You can look but you can't touch. In Minecraft, everything you see can be touched, and in this case can be made to perform logical operations.




Ok, that IS interesting.
10/2/2010 5:57:07 AM EDT
[#25]
Quoted:
That video was boring as fucking hell.


I'll bet you google whole URL's.
10/2/2010 6:01:59 AM EDT
[#26]
Is it just me or does he sound like he is the Hanwei Katana unveiling nerd?
10/2/2010 6:02:57 AM EDT
[#27]
Explain this game for the non nerds please.
10/2/2010 6:03:46 AM EDT
[#28]

Did I see a pig walking around in there?
10/2/2010 6:17:30 AM EDT
[#29]





Quoted:
Quoted:


I don't undertstand, he hasn't built anything, it's software acting like hardware inside other software. The only actual computer is the one running Minecraft, or am I missing something.



Yeah I don't get it. I couldn't decide if my mind was blown or if I just didn't understand. So it's a big, in-game calculator that runs entirely on fire and trails of oil... And he kept saying that it could run code... IF it could do that, what would be the purpose? Do something within a thing that can already do that something thousands of times faster?


 



If you're going to ask that question, might as well ask, "What is the purpose of buildings things in a game when you could build things in real life that are actually thousands of times more useful?"




There are even websites about this strange idea.



http://hackaday.com/



http://curiousinventor.com/projects/



http://makezine.com/magazine/





 
10/2/2010 6:19:13 AM EDT
[#30]
Quoted:
Explain this game for the non nerds please.

It's basically Lego Stalker.

The primary game mode is survival.  During the day, you can explore a giant randomly generated game world, harvest resources, craft things, and use the things within the world to affect it, like the house fire above illustrates.  After sundown, monsters come out, and even with the best armor and weaponry in the game, your odds against them are low.  So your primary activity centers on building shelter from the monsters.  Apart from that, you can do as you please.  Most people seem to enjoy building better and better shelters.  Some focus on designing shelters in such a way as to trap the monsters and harvest the resources they drop when killed.  Quite a few just play with the blocks that the world consists of, rearranging them to form, for instance, a city, or a famous landmark, or the USS Enterprise, or a computer as in the OP's video.

The game's held up as a prime example of emergent gameplay, where very complex situations can arise, or be made to arise, from very simple game mechanics.

That's sort of the Lego aspect.  Take a bucket of six types of blocks, and you can build a low resolution copy of the Mona Lisa.

Minecraft is the same sort of thing, except with crafting and monsters thrown in.

Here's a good description of some of the appeal: http://www.bitmob.com/articles/minecraft-and-emergent-storytelling  I particularly like his closing paragraphs on page 2.
10/2/2010 6:23:56 AM EDT
[#31]
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Did I see a pig walking around in there?

Pigs drop pork when killed, which can be consumed to heal 1 or 2 hearts of health, or cooked in a forge and consumed to heal 4 or 5 hearts.

Cows drop leather, which can be made into leather armor or used for some other stuff.

Chickens drop feathers, which can be used for arrows.

The only things in the game that have no conceivable use, that I've seen, are clouds and bedrock.  Clouds merely look nice, and bedrock serves as the floor of the game world, some 70 blocks or so underground.
10/2/2010 1:36:52 PM EDT
[#32]
I looked up Elements of Computing Systems and the cheapest I found was $30. I want to see what it is, but not 100 rounds of XM193 badly.
10/2/2010 2:07:19 PM EDT
[#33]
Quoted:
I looked up Elements of Computing Systems and the cheapest I found was $30. I want to see what it is, but not 100 rounds of XM193 badly.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arithmetic_logic_unit
10/2/2010 2:21:49 PM EDT
[#34]
Quoted:
I don't undertstand, he hasn't built anything, it's software acting like hardware inside other software. The only actual computer is the one running Minecraft, or am I missing something.


A computer within a computer is merely software within software.  That's all that it is.  And that's all that is needed for it to begin.
10/2/2010 2:25:00 PM EDT
[#35]



Quoted:


I say it's cool, so it is.



The OP's video link showcases the interactivity of Minecraft's game world, as can remarkably be held up, despite its low production value, against enormous game worlds such as Grand Theft Auto 4's, which presents a world of outrageously high production investment but no particular interactivity.  You can look but you can't touch.  In Minecraft, everything you see can be touched, and in this case can be made to perform logical operations.


But in other games you can touch. If you're playing GTA4 it's not because you want to build something.



And I dunno, the eye candy is a big huge part of gaming, not so much making calculators.



It's pretty creative and everything, but I fail to see the point, and I really kinda feel bad for the guy who built it. Go outside bro.
 
10/2/2010 2:26:30 PM EDT
[#36]
Would like to try this game out.



Looks like a big LEGO type game.
10/2/2010 4:04:35 PM EDT
[#37]



Quoted:



Quoted:

I looked up Elements of Computing Systems and the cheapest I found was $30. I want to see what it is, but not 100 rounds of XM193 badly.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arithmetic_logic_unit


I looked it up because it inspired him to build his own computer. That is a rare book.



 
10/2/2010 4:25:16 PM EDT
[#38]
You know how I know he doesnt have a girlfriend?
Hol e shit. How long would it take to do that?
10/2/2010 4:31:21 PM EDT
[#39]
I bet that dude lays some serious pipe.





- BG
10/2/2010 4:32:10 PM EDT
[#40]
Skynet?
10/2/2010 5:34:49 PM EDT
[#41]
Quoted:
Quoted:
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I looked up Elements of Computing Systems and the cheapest I found was $30. I want to see what it is, but not 100 rounds of XM193 badly.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arithmetic_logic_unit

I looked it up because it inspired him to build his own computer. That is a rare book.

Code by Charles Petzold has had the same effect on people.
10/2/2010 5:46:38 PM EDT
[#42]



Quoted:



Quoted:

That video was boring as fucking hell.


That's a stupid fucking post.  But, here, just for you:



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LnjSWPxJxNs



Bear with it through 1:25.


 





I'll bet he wished he had designed in a fire extinguisher first.