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Posted: 10/31/2018 7:18:25 AM EDT
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Can it be shoehorned into a Miata? |
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Posted: 10/31/2018 7:23:58 AM EDT
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They should have put forth this kind of effort in the 70s and 80s. Though the President claimed to have "lusted in his heart" 
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Posted: 10/31/2018 7:28:15 AM EDT
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Holy hell, thats pretty awesome. Mopar went from offering 0 crate motors just a few years ago to now this. Pretty awesome. |
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Posted: 10/31/2018 7:29:48 AM EDT
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Olds OW43 (Overhead cam W43 455)
 "Dyno testing the 12.2:1 OW43 at the end of 1969 showed the DOHC motor having a very level torque curve. Peak power Olds engineers recorded was 700 horsepower at close to 7000 rpm at the crank." With Webers (I think I remember seeing that on the cover of Hot Rod, ca. 1969) 
Design started in '68 to be introduced in '72. GM Pres. Ed Cole killed it. https://www.streetmusclemag.com/news/the-w43-oldsmobiles-dohc-455-v8-that-never-was/ .More |
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Posted: 10/31/2018 7:52:54 AM EDT
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I want one, stuffed in an Opel GT.
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Posted: 10/31/2018 8:30:49 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I’m gonna ballpark the engine at $25K, before the harness, controller, etc The Hellcrate 6.2L is just shy of $20K for the engine I am going to put this north of $35k if not right at $40k because the whole neva-been-done-b4 thing and most of these will find there way into big money sponsored show cars, drift cars, and drag cars. |
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Posted: 10/31/2018 8:36:42 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Harness and controller are included per the mopar website. I am going to put this north of $35k if not right at $40k because the whole neva-been-done-b4 thing and most of these will find there way into big money sponsored show cars, drift cars, and drag cars. |
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Posted: 10/31/2018 8:43:31 AM EDT
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these will make it into any mopar resto mod car that can go to barrett jackson. id be willing to bet there will be a cuda that crosses the block in a few months with one of these engines installed, even if the motor isnt released yet. |
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Posted: 10/31/2018 8:46:24 AM EDT
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Can it be shoehorned into a Miata? |
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Posted: 10/31/2018 8:56:48 AM EDT
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these will make it into any mopar resto mod car that can go to barrett jackson. id be willing to bet there will be a cuda that crosses the block in a few months with one of these engines installed, even if the motor isnt released yet. |
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Posted: 10/31/2018 8:59:36 AM EDT
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I'm sure there will be another remake of Vanishing Point or real life ending with that much hp.
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Posted: 10/31/2018 9:29:30 AM EDT
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Define "a few". Because I bought a crate hemi about 8-9 years ago with no issues. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Holy hell, thats pretty awesome. Mopar went from offering 0 crate motors just a few years ago to now this. Pretty awesome. |
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Posted: 10/31/2018 12:05:58 PM EDT
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Can it be shoehorned into a https://theprowlerstore.com/images/Prowler2226.jpg https://www.ar15.com/images/smilies/smiley_abused.gif |
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Posted: 10/31/2018 12:06:49 PM EDT
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Define "a few". Because I bought a crate hemi about 8-9 years ago with no issues. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Holy hell, thats pretty awesome. Mopar went from offering 0 crate motors just a few years ago to now this. Pretty awesome. |
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Posted: 10/31/2018 3:20:31 PM EDT
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I want the Charger.  . But it fits the SRT motto of "flare everything" lol. Ain't nobody got time for wide fenders and quarters, just slap some plastic fender flares on it!!
The 426 crate motor is sweet. It will cost more than $30k I imagine, so.......nope!! |
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Posted: 10/31/2018 3:23:10 PM EDT
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Holy hell, thats pretty awesome. Mopar went from offering 0 crate motors just a few years ago to now this. Pretty awesome. |
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Posted: 10/31/2018 3:23:59 PM EDT
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A new Super Charger based on the 68 Charger with a 1,000 hp engine?
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Posted: 10/31/2018 3:26:37 PM EDT
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Can it be shoehorned into a Miata? Think A10/Avenger... |
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Posted: 10/31/2018 3:38:42 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Foose somehow got a Viper V10 (I'm not sure how the 426 V8 compares size-wise) into an Auburn Speedster once, so maybe? |
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Posted: 10/31/2018 4:55:47 PM EDT
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https://www.allpar.com/news/2018/10/426-hellephant-crate-engine-packs-1000-horsepower-42739
 The Hellephant Running on a Display |
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Posted: 10/31/2018 9:01:52 PM EDT
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Posted: 10/31/2018 9:20:18 PM EDT
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Stuff it into a ram 1500 standard can small box. Remove the bed sides and install the dually sides. Put some monster sized super singles in the back on custom wheels. God damn. I like the idea... |
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Posted: 10/31/2018 9:26:06 PM EDT
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They should have put forth this kind of effort in the 70s and 80s. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Still a Dodge. |
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Posted: 10/31/2018 9:41:05 PM EDT
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MP use to offer a bunch of crate motors, but nothing in their catalog was in the vicinity of being affordable. A set of ring gear bolts from them is $100!!!! Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Holy hell, thats pretty awesome. Mopar went from offering 0 crate motors just a few years ago to now this. Pretty awesome. I have a 407ci w8 head deal that is about a month away from the dyno that is going to make 770hp on 93octane ar 12.5:1 and behave on the street. No power adders. Going in my tube chassis big tire duster for shake down, and will ultimately land in my street only challenger. Mopar was ahead of the curve understanding cylinder heads and air management. It's the reason my garage is littered with "old" nascar and prostock w8 and w9 heads and r blocks.....its also the reason virtually all current chevy sb2 and sb2.2 builders acknowledge the w8 and w9 are the best wedge head ever designed. The cylinder head is where the power is. Just like the hemi heads. |
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Posted: 10/31/2018 9:53:28 PM EDT
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Posted: 10/31/2018 10:43:13 PM EDT
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Wheelhouse marketing. |
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Posted: 10/31/2018 10:55:31 PM EDT
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If anyone is using the mp catalog as a barometer of what is going on in mopar hot rodding you are woefully underserved. Making power with mopars is my hobby ahead of firearms.....many of us are doing shit you'll never find in an old mp catalog lol. I have a 407ci w8 head deal that is about a month away from the dyno that is going to make 770hp on 93octane ar 12.5:1 and behave on the street. No power adders. Going in my tube chassis big tire duster for shake down, and will ultimately land in my street only challenger. Mopar was ahead of the curve understanding cylinder heads and air management. It's the reason my garage is littered with "old" nascar and prostock w8 and w9 heads and r blocks.....its also the reason virtually all current chevy sb2 and sb2.2 builders acknowledge the w8 and w9 are the best wedge head ever designed. The cylinder head is where the power is. Just like the hemi heads. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Holy hell, thats pretty awesome. Mopar went from offering 0 crate motors just a few years ago to now this. Pretty awesome. I have a 407ci w8 head deal that is about a month away from the dyno that is going to make 770hp on 93octane ar 12.5:1 and behave on the street. No power adders. Going in my tube chassis big tire duster for shake down, and will ultimately land in my street only challenger. Mopar was ahead of the curve understanding cylinder heads and air management. It's the reason my garage is littered with "old" nascar and prostock w8 and w9 heads and r blocks.....its also the reason virtually all current chevy sb2 and sb2.2 builders acknowledge the w8 and w9 are the best wedge head ever designed. The cylinder head is where the power is. Just like the hemi heads. |
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Posted: 10/31/2018 10:59:31 PM EDT
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Can be yours for $42,700 (I have no idea but this will be up there.) A 1000hp LS can be had for less than $15k... But....here in GD we don't break laws. Motors and cars that sport motors like these are for exhibition of speed and street racing. Aka...things condoned by GD. |
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Posted: 10/31/2018 11:04:23 PM EDT
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I want to put it in my 98 Ram!!!!
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Posted: 10/31/2018 11:06:30 PM EDT
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Never thought of MP as a barometer of anything but high prices. Their purple cams are old tech and still being sold. Most of the sb/bb innovation has been tested elsewhere and refined. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Holy hell, thats pretty awesome. Mopar went from offering 0 crate motors just a few years ago to now this. Pretty awesome. I have a 407ci w8 head deal that is about a month away from the dyno that is going to make 770hp on 93octane ar 12.5:1 and behave on the street. No power adders. Going in my tube chassis big tire duster for shake down, and will ultimately land in my street only challenger. Mopar was ahead of the curve understanding cylinder heads and air management. It's the reason my garage is littered with "old" nascar and prostock w8 and w9 heads and r blocks.....its also the reason virtually all current chevy sb2 and sb2.2 builders acknowledge the w8 and w9 are the best wedge head ever designed. The cylinder head is where the power is. Just like the hemi heads. 
W9 heads were being sold from 98-13 for $400 ea. W2s for 600 a pair. Full rocker gear under $800. And lol at 'purple shaft' other than the 590 noone has carved about a purple shaft for 20 years. The smart guys bought the mp stuff that was on the less sexy pages of the catalog |
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Posted: 10/31/2018 11:07:58 PM EDT
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^This But....here in GD we don't break laws. Motors and cars that sport motors like these are for exhibition of speed and street racing. Aka...things condoned by GD. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Can be yours for $42,700 (I have no idea but this will be up there.) A 1000hp LS can be had for less than $15k... But....here in GD we don't break laws. Motors and cars that sport motors like these are for exhibition of speed and street racing. Aka...things condoned by GD. 
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Posted: 10/31/2018 11:09:52 PM EDT
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Posted: 10/31/2018 11:42:45 PM EDT
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Nobody was making an effort in the 70s and 80s, everything was basically 180-200hp no matter the CI it seemed. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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They should have put forth this kind of effort in the 70s and 80s. Oh wait... Well, at least we dealt with the fuel crises, malaise and lesiure suits. 
Our lady of blessed acceleration don't fail us now! |
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Posted: 10/31/2018 11:43:24 PM EDT
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MOPAR was at one time in cahoots with Pontiac to assist that division of GM to build a 427 Hemi. Gotta find back up on that, but someone might wish to beat me to it, please. 
4 valves per cylinder. 
But yes pontiac also developed a 427 Hemi with help from Mopar engineers. It didn't make it as far as the W-43 Olds engine though. Not as much history on this one though. |
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Posted: 10/31/2018 11:51:27 PM EDT
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Olds OW43 (Overhead cam W43 455) https://www.streetmusclemag.com/wp-content/blogs.dir/10/files/2011/06/Hemi455Olds.jpg "Dyno testing the 12.2:1 OW43 at the end of 1969 showed the DOHC motor having a very level torque curve. Peak power Olds engineers recorded was 700 horsepower at close to 7000 rpm at the crank." With Webers (I think I remember seeing that on the cover of Hot Rod, ca. 1969) https://www.streetmusclemag.com/wp-content/blogs.dir/10/files/2011/06/DOHC-HR.jpg Design started in '68 to be introduced in '72. GM Pres. Ed Cole killed it. https://www.streetmusclemag.com/news/the-w43-oldsmobiles-dohc-455-v8-that-never-was/ .More 
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Posted: 11/1/2018 12:13:22 AM EDT
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Ah yes, the lingering effects of Malaise, lesiure suits, fuel crises and emissions requirements. Glad those days are behind us. Oh wait... Well, at least we dealt with the fuel crises, malaise and lesiure suits.
Our lady of blessed acceleration don't fail us now! Quote HistoryQuoted:
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They should have put forth this kind of effort in the 70s and 80s. Oh wait... Well, at least we dealt with the fuel crises, malaise and lesiure suits.
Our lady of blessed acceleration don't fail us now! The late 70s saw the introduction of the Chrysler w2 iron cylinder head. Using lessons from to 1970 t/a 340 head used for The aar cuda and the t/a challenger in the scca trans am series (which held a 305ci displacement limit) Chrysler moved the intake pushrod laterally with the aid of a drastically offset intake rocker the get the pushrod and its associated casting bulge out of the intake port tract. The then standard 340 "j head" became the ta head. Going a step further they then engineered the w2. Using standard la head architecture, moving the pushrod further to .550" and redesigning the exhaust port wholesale the undisputed king of small block iron heads was ready. Max effort w2s can easily be ported to over 300cfm and see 200ish on the exhaust side. It was enough to see Ford pro stock hero Bob glidden join the mopar camp for 1977 campaigning a Plymouth arrow with a 340 W2 that won something like 7 out of 12 national events. And something like 25 rounds in a row. That off season, Ford would "buy back" glidden to remove the egg from their face. The w2 remains in production today and is still the bane of camelhump, vortec, and svo iron head stalwarts. There is simply not a greater iron cylinder head. Its heyday was during the time folks say horsepower was 'dead'. |
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Posted: 11/1/2018 12:32:01 AM EDT
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In 68-69 there existed 427 SOHC and DOHC engines at Chevy. Only a couple of them but they did exist.  Attached File |
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Posted: 11/1/2018 12:57:24 AM EDT
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Posted: 11/1/2018 2:59:52 AM EDT
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When is the pricing going to be released?
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Posted: 11/1/2018 6:01:30 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Ford had one in '63-'64.. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/439676/Ford-427-SOHC_jpg-724011.JPG |
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Posted: 11/1/2018 7:40:24 AM EDT
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I’m an LS guy myself. For the low budget do it yourself guy they are hard to beat. I prefer procharger or turbo because if you are a good tuner you can keep the motor happy and make a ton of streetable power especially on E85. No need for expensive heads or exotic parts either.
With that said mopar does have the edge currently in off the showroom floor power. I’ve seen the tougher competition locally come from late model mustangs though while the late model mopar guys never show up at the drag strip on street car nights. I think I saw a new mustang with only a procharger on a stock motor run 7’s in the 1/4 recently. |
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Posted: 11/2/2018 12:22:56 AM EDT
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the motors NASCAR banned |
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Posted: 11/2/2018 12:39:44 AM EDT
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I want one in a '95 Civic hatchback.
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