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Originally Posted By NorthBridge: Pre HRE https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/337680/IMG_0317_jpeg-3221500.JPG View Quote Love the 991.2 GT3/RS |
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First run for the year. Broke my rule of calling people back on their terms and not mine. Ruined the drive. |
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The world premiere of the new Porsche 911 75 minutes to see the new 911 (992.2) |
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Configurator has been updated too - base car is now $120k to start.
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Originally Posted By 6172crew: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5bfGgpSIg0Y 75 minutes to see the new 911 (992.2) View Quote |
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Originally Posted By D_J: Originally Posted By 6172crew: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5bfGgpSIg0Y 75 minutes to see the new 911 (992.2) Well the NA rumors were certainly all wrong. Color options are … interesting. And looks like a manual is no longer an option on a GTS? This is making me feel way better about my BGTS 4.0 purchase |
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Originally Posted By Stlrain0341: Well the NA rumors were certainly all wrong. Color options are … interesting. And looks like a manual is no longer an option on a GTS? This is making me feel way better about my BGTS 4.0 purchase View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By Stlrain0341: Originally Posted By D_J: Originally Posted By 6172crew: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5bfGgpSIg0Y 75 minutes to see the new 911 (992.2) Well the NA rumors were certainly all wrong. Color options are … interesting. And looks like a manual is no longer an option on a GTS? This is making me feel way better about my BGTS 4.0 purchase If a person wasn't hung up on the MT option it sounds like you get the GTS turbos and Turbo S intercoolers. For around 7 grand I can add those and a tune to my T. The price hikes are what would hold me back from a new allocation. I do like a subtle changes on the front and rear fascia. |
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Originally Posted By Stlrain0341: Well the NA rumors were certainly all wrong. Color options are … interesting. And looks like a manual is no longer an option on a GTS? This is making me feel way better about my BGTS 4.0 purchase View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By Stlrain0341: Originally Posted By D_J: Originally Posted By 6172crew: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5bfGgpSIg0Y 75 minutes to see the new 911 (992.2) Well the NA rumors were certainly all wrong. Color options are … interesting. And looks like a manual is no longer an option on a GTS? This is making me feel way better about my BGTS 4.0 purchase Yeah. I like some of the colors, others are meh. No 6MT on the GTS? That just ruined any future purchase of that model for me. I'm hoping it (manual tranny) will come out later and be available on the GT3, but given there is a hybrid element in the PDK I'm not sure if they can divorce that part of the system for the manual transmission. |
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Makes me rethink the pdk option on my C2S. Freeze date is June 6th. May have to think about this. Also, 2+2 is no optional? Isn't that a HUGE change on the 911 platform?!
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Originally Posted By 2JokersWild: It is but to me it feels about like when Chevy took the Corvette from front engine to mid engine. Has the 911 ever been offered as a 2 seater? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By 2JokersWild: Originally Posted By D_J: Adding the rear seat is a $0 option. Only the GT cars to my memory. |
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For the guys who have been around Porsches for a while and go to events and such, is the MT a comon option? Flipping through the CPO it looks like the MT isnt all that comon. I'm not overly worried about resale but as of now I have the PDK option checked and given the announcement I'm considering the MT.
I like the performance aspect of the PDK but the simple fact is I'm not a track star and never will be. For just open road driving the MT would be more fun and engaging I think. Granted, the MT will never launch like the PDK will and not even sure if the MT can handle clutch dumps the same way as the PDK will but at trhe end of the day the MT is more engaging and the PDK feels more performance oriented. Not sure which box to check at the moment, and its a big damn decision. |
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The manual is fun to drive even at normal speeds. I love the engagement, and will always pick 3 pedals if it’s an option to.
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Originally Posted By 2JokersWild: For the guys who have been around Porsches for a while and go to events and such, is the MT a comon option? Flipping through the CPO it looks like the MT isnt all that comon. I'm not overly worried about resale but as of now I have the PDK option checked and given the announcement I'm considering the MT. I like the performance aspect of the PDK but the simple fact is I'm not a track star and never will be. For just open road driving the MT would be more fun and engaging I think. Granted, the MT will never launch like the PDK will and not even sure if the MT can handle clutch dumps the same way as the PDK will but at trhe end of the day the MT is more engaging and the PDK feels more performance oriented. Not sure which box to check at the moment, and its a big damn decision. View Quote The manual is worth an extra $5-15k in resale, depending on model. |
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We finally took a "real" Porsche on trade and it's a 993 C2 cab with an auto
Getting closer, been through a lot of SUVs and a few 997's. I'm not on the sales side at all, always hopeful something exciting will roll in. |
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Originally Posted By 2JokersWild: For the guys who have been around Porsches for a while and go to events and such, is the MT a comon option? Flipping through the CPO it looks like the MT isnt all that comon. I'm not overly worried about resale but as of now I have the PDK option checked and given the announcement I'm considering the MT. I like the performance aspect of the PDK but the simple fact is I'm not a track star and never will be. For just open road driving the MT would be more fun and engaging I think. Granted, the MT will never launch like the PDK will and not even sure if the MT can handle clutch dumps the same way as the PDK will but at trhe end of the day the MT is more engaging and the PDK feels more performance oriented. Not sure which box to check at the moment, and its a big damn decision. View Quote I just picked up a CPO Turbo S (PDK) I understand the desire to row gears....but you will not do it better than the PDK. The paddles really do scratch the itch. I am a life long drag racer, and have a shelf full of trophies from unimpressive classes to show I am better than those who never did it.... and I have very little experience on road courses (but I am learning). But again, those paddles really do scratch the itch. I also have other cars (in some case much faster cars) with clutches. I do not own a vintage Porsche (lets say pre 99) I would want a manual transmission in those. (and I really want to add a flachbau 930 to my stable and it will have the Lords transmission.....) |
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Originally Posted By neshomamench: I just picked up a CPO Turbo S (PDK) I understand the desire to row gears....but you will not do it better than the PDK. The paddles really do scratch the itch. I am a life long drag racer, and have a shelf full of trophies from unimpressive classes to show I am better than those who never did it.... and I have very little experience on road courses (but I am learning). But again, those paddles really do scratch the itch. I also have other cars (in some case much faster cars) with clutches. I do not own a vintage Porsche (lets say pre 99) I would want a manual transmission in those. (and I really want to add a flachbau 930 to my stable and it will have the Lords transmission.....) View Quote 1st: 45mph 2nd: 76mph 3rd: 110mph 4th: 148mph 5th: 186mph 6th: 221mph (drag limited) 7th: 282mph (drag limited) |
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Originally Posted By 2JokersWild: If the numbers are right, the gearing is such that you'd really only row between 1st and 2nd. Wringing it out in 3rd is already approaching jail.... but a 4-2 pass on a highway would surely be fun 1st: 45mph 2nd: 76mph 3rd: 110mph 4th: 148mph 5th: 186mph 6th: 221mph (drag limited) 7th: 282mph (drag limited) View Quote That is one way to look at it. Then there are all the real world track records. Get whatever you want. I often do, in spite of the numbers. |
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Is there a good resource for all of the Porsche acronyms? Google really isn't much help.
4S - AWD Sport? 2D - 2WD? C2 - ? C4 - ? MT CPO Many others....there are a ton and if you don't speak Porsche, it is very difficult to understand the differences in models. |
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Originally Posted By 2JokersWild: For the guys who have been around Porsches for a while and go to events and such, is the MT a comon option? Flipping through the CPO it looks like the MT isnt all that comon. I'm not overly worried about resale but as of now I have the PDK option checked and given the announcement I'm considering the MT. I like the performance aspect of the PDK but the simple fact is I'm not a track star and never will be. For just open road driving the MT would be more fun and engaging I think. Granted, the MT will never launch like the PDK will and not even sure if the MT can handle clutch dumps the same way as the PDK will but at trhe end of the day the MT is more engaging and the PDK feels more performance oriented. Not sure which box to check at the moment, and its a big damn decision. View Quote This is a very individual preference. Years ago I said I'd never own an auto trans, now have 5 of them. My 911 was purely purchased as a track car, and I was not comfortable moving from a slower S550 Mustang to a 992 911 manual, on track....Many do it, but for me - there is zero room for error with 992 911 speeds, it's not your Miata or BRZ. I can come into a turn at 150MPH while a Miata comes into the same turn at 100mph. I'm not in a situation where I want to replace a $140K track/fun car that I wadded up into a wall. Fun weekends - yep, I'd go manual all day long. Daily driver, ehhh - probably not (for me). I love launching the 992 911S PDK from a dead stop. Passengers enjoy it as well. Good luck! |
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Originally Posted By Ironmaker: Is there a good resource for all of the Porsche acronyms? Google really isn't much help. 4S - AWD Sport? 2D - 2WD? C2 - ? C4 - ? MT CPO Many others....there are a ton and if you don't speak Porsche, it is very difficult to understand the differences in models. View Quote C2 - 911 Carrera (base) RWD C2S - 911 Carrera S RWD C4 - 911 Carrera 4 AWD C4S - 911 Carrera 4S AWD MT - Manual Transmission CPO - Certified Pre Owned (Porsche dealer certified) ABD Automatic brake differential ABS Anti-lock braking system ASR Automatic slip regulation AWS Auto weight-sensing (for air bag deployment) DFI Direct fuel injection DME Digital motor electronics ECU Electronic control unit EDC Engine drag control HBA Hydraulic brake assist HVAC Heating, ventilation and air-conditioning IMS Intermediate seal KESSY Keyless entry, start and exit system LSA Lightweight, stable, agile (sub-frame-mounted rear suspension) LSD Limited-slip differential MAF Mass air-flow (sensor) MSR Engine drag-force control (seems interchangeable with EDC) OBC On-board computer OBD On-board diagnostics OPC Official Porsche centre PAS Porsche access system (/power-assisted steering) PASM Porsche active suspension management PCA Porsche Club of America PCCB Porsche ceramic composite brake PCGB Porsche Cars Great Britain (not generally used for Porsche Club GB) PCM Porsche communication management PCNA Porsche Cars of North America PDAS Porsche Dynamische Allrad Steuerung/Porsche dynamic all-wheel-drive system PDCC Porsche dynamic chassis control PDK Porsche Doppelkupplung POSIP Porsche side-impact protection PSE Porsche sports exhaust PSM Porsche stability management PTM Porsche traction management PTS Paint to sample/Porches travel system (luggage) PTV Porsche torque vectoring RMS Rear main seal TC Traction control TPC (or TPM) Tyre pressure control/monitoring VTG Variable turbine geometry VTS Vehicle tracking system WOT Wide-open throttle |
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Originally Posted By BlackTaco: C2 - 911 Carrera (base) RWD C2S - 911 Carrera S RWD C4 - 911 Carrera 4 AWD C4S - 911 Carrera 4S AWD MT - Manual Transmission CPO - Certified Pre Owned (Porsche dealer certified) ABD Automatic brake differential ABS Anti-lock braking system ASR Automatic slip regulation AWS Auto weight-sensing (for air bag deployment) DFI Direct fuel injection DME Digital motor electronics ECU Electronic control unit EDC Engine drag control HBA Hydraulic brake assist HVAC Heating, ventilation and air-conditioning IMS Intermediate seal KESSY Keyless entry, start and exit system LSA Lightweight, stable, agile (sub-frame-mounted rear suspension) LSD Limited-slip differential MAF Mass air-flow (sensor) MSR Engine drag-force control (seems interchangeable with EDC) OBC On-board computer OBD On-board diagnostics OPC Official Porsche centre PAS Porsche access system (/power-assisted steering) PASM Porsche active suspension management PCA Porsche Club of America PCCB Porsche ceramic composite brake PCGB Porsche Cars Great Britain (not generally used for Porsche Club GB) PCM Porsche communication management PCNA Porsche Cars of North America PDAS Porsche Dynamische Allrad Steuerung/Porsche dynamic all-wheel-drive system PDCC Porsche dynamic chassis control PDK Porsche Doppelkupplung POSIP Porsche side-impact protection PSE Porsche sports exhaust PSM Porsche stability management PTM Porsche traction management PTS Paint to sample/Porches travel system (luggage) PTV Porsche torque vectoring RMS Rear main seal TC Traction control TPC (or TPM) Tyre pressure control/monitoring VTG Variable turbine geometry VTS Vehicle tracking system WOT Wide-open throttle View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By BlackTaco: Originally Posted By Ironmaker: Is there a good resource for all of the Porsche acronyms? Google really isn't much help. 4S - AWD Sport? 2D - 2WD? C2 - ? C4 - ? MT CPO Many others....there are a ton and if you don't speak Porsche, it is very difficult to understand the differences in models. C2 - 911 Carrera (base) RWD C2S - 911 Carrera S RWD C4 - 911 Carrera 4 AWD C4S - 911 Carrera 4S AWD MT - Manual Transmission CPO - Certified Pre Owned (Porsche dealer certified) ABD Automatic brake differential ABS Anti-lock braking system ASR Automatic slip regulation AWS Auto weight-sensing (for air bag deployment) DFI Direct fuel injection DME Digital motor electronics ECU Electronic control unit EDC Engine drag control HBA Hydraulic brake assist HVAC Heating, ventilation and air-conditioning IMS Intermediate seal KESSY Keyless entry, start and exit system LSA Lightweight, stable, agile (sub-frame-mounted rear suspension) LSD Limited-slip differential MAF Mass air-flow (sensor) MSR Engine drag-force control (seems interchangeable with EDC) OBC On-board computer OBD On-board diagnostics OPC Official Porsche centre PAS Porsche access system (/power-assisted steering) PASM Porsche active suspension management PCA Porsche Club of America PCCB Porsche ceramic composite brake PCGB Porsche Cars Great Britain (not generally used for Porsche Club GB) PCM Porsche communication management PCNA Porsche Cars of North America PDAS Porsche Dynamische Allrad Steuerung/Porsche dynamic all-wheel-drive system PDCC Porsche dynamic chassis control PDK Porsche Doppelkupplung POSIP Porsche side-impact protection PSE Porsche sports exhaust PSM Porsche stability management PTM Porsche traction management PTS Paint to sample/Porches travel system (luggage) PTV Porsche torque vectoring RMS Rear main seal TC Traction control TPC (or TPM) Tyre pressure control/monitoring VTG Variable turbine geometry VTS Vehicle tracking system WOT Wide-open throttle You’ll also see the manual called a 6MT (because it’s a 6 speed, and this is how it was referred to on the spec sheet). Across the product line, its base model < S < GTS < Turbo < Turbo S. On the 911 the Turbo is a separate model/body from the Carrera (nearly all non-GT Carreras have had a turbo engine for a while but not a Turbo engine), but in other platforms (Panamera, Cayenne, etc) it’s generally the same model with more power. Most 911s are available in 2WD, AWD, convertible (cabriolet) and/or targa (removable roof section) variants. Special models include the GT cars, the 911 T and S/T, but most have the same/similar options with higher end models making some options standard + more power. If you want the extra power and some performance options, the GTS is traditionally the best buy; if you don’t want a lot of features or don’t need the most power, the base model is plenty for most anyone. |
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Originally Posted By D_J: You’ll also see the manual called a 6MT (because it’s a 6 speed, and this is how it was referred to on the spec sheet). Across the product line, its base model < S < GTS < Turbo < Turbo S. On the 911 the Turbo is a separate model/body from the Carrera (nearly all non-GT Carreras have had a turbo engine for a while but not a Turbo engine), but in other platforms (Panamera, Cayenne, etc) it’s generally the same model with more power. Most 911s are available in 2WD, AWD, convertible (cabriolet) and/or targa (removable roof section) variants. Special models include the GT cars, the 911 T and S/T, but most have the same/similar options with higher end models making some options standard + more power. If you want the extra power and some performance options, the GTS is traditionally the best buy; if you don’t want a lot of features or don’t need the most power, the base model is plenty for most anyone. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By D_J: Originally Posted By BlackTaco: Originally Posted By Ironmaker: Is there a good resource for all of the Porsche acronyms? Google really isn't much help. 4S - AWD Sport? 2D - 2WD? C2 - ? C4 - ? MT CPO Many others....there are a ton and if you don't speak Porsche, it is very difficult to understand the differences in models. C2 - 911 Carrera (base) RWD C2S - 911 Carrera S RWD C4 - 911 Carrera 4 AWD C4S - 911 Carrera 4S AWD MT - Manual Transmission CPO - Certified Pre Owned (Porsche dealer certified) ABD Automatic brake differential ABS Anti-lock braking system ASR Automatic slip regulation AWS Auto weight-sensing (for air bag deployment) DFI Direct fuel injection DME Digital motor electronics ECU Electronic control unit EDC Engine drag control HBA Hydraulic brake assist HVAC Heating, ventilation and air-conditioning IMS Intermediate seal KESSY Keyless entry, start and exit system LSA Lightweight, stable, agile (sub-frame-mounted rear suspension) LSD Limited-slip differential MAF Mass air-flow (sensor) MSR Engine drag-force control (seems interchangeable with EDC) OBC On-board computer OBD On-board diagnostics OPC Official Porsche centre PAS Porsche access system (/power-assisted steering) PASM Porsche active suspension management PCA Porsche Club of America PCCB Porsche ceramic composite brake PCGB Porsche Cars Great Britain (not generally used for Porsche Club GB) PCM Porsche communication management PCNA Porsche Cars of North America PDAS Porsche Dynamische Allrad Steuerung/Porsche dynamic all-wheel-drive system PDCC Porsche dynamic chassis control PDK Porsche Doppelkupplung POSIP Porsche side-impact protection PSE Porsche sports exhaust PSM Porsche stability management PTM Porsche traction management PTS Paint to sample/Porches travel system (luggage) PTV Porsche torque vectoring RMS Rear main seal TC Traction control TPC (or TPM) Tyre pressure control/monitoring VTG Variable turbine geometry VTS Vehicle tracking system WOT Wide-open throttle You’ll also see the manual called a 6MT (because it’s a 6 speed, and this is how it was referred to on the spec sheet). Across the product line, its base model < S < GTS < Turbo < Turbo S. On the 911 the Turbo is a separate model/body from the Carrera (nearly all non-GT Carreras have had a turbo engine for a while but not a Turbo engine), but in other platforms (Panamera, Cayenne, etc) it’s generally the same model with more power. Most 911s are available in 2WD, AWD, convertible (cabriolet) and/or targa (removable roof section) variants. Special models include the GT cars, the 911 T and S/T, but most have the same/similar options with higher end models making some options standard + more power. If you want the extra power and some performance options, the GTS is traditionally the best buy; if you don’t want a lot of features or don’t need the most power, the base model is plenty for most anyone. Perfect!! Thank you very much. |
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Originally Posted By QwikKotaTx: Finally got the windshield replaced on my car. It has taken no less than 2 months due to incorrect weatherstripping being ordered and it arriving broken (internal metal frame). They would only let 1 technician perform the work and the weather has been shit. https://i.ibb.co/j6rb5Cd/PXL-20240531-204525428.jpg View Quote Damn good lookin Turbo, sir. |
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Local dealer offered me an allocation on a new 992.2 GTS for an ADM of 15k.
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Originally Posted By Jacon: That’s ridiculous. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By Jacon: Originally Posted By Toasted: Local dealer offered me an allocation on a new 992.2 GTS for an ADM of 15k. No thanks. That is slightly used Turbo S territory. That’s ridiculous. I wonder what the dealer's thought process is here - trying to cash in on somebody who wants the latest and greatest before anybody else? Or something else? I'm surprised that anybody is asking for ADM on something that isn't a GT3 or 4. |
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Originally Posted By whiplash10: Didn't realize this thread existed, psyched to be able to post in it. After ordering a 992 Carrera S, I bailed on it and went for this instead. Way less practical, but way more fun for me. And I figured the GT division rarely puts out roofless cars (especially at this price point) so why not. It's had GT4 scoops, over axle pipes, RS tips, and full PPF added. Definitely have been having a blast with it. https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53758342198_a3184b8480_b.jpg https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53764983150_ac5f504fb1_b.jpg https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53590921262_de1a9e47bd_b.jpg https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53764598361_dff5beb3fe_c.jpg View Quote I'm not a convertible guy but that is sick, I bet it absolutely rips too. |
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Originally Posted By Hulley: I'm not a convertible guy but that is sick, I bet it absolutely rips too. View Quote Man I'm not either other than the 992, the GT4 and 991 GT3 were on the table for me as well, and I definitely don't love the 911 cabriolets so never considered any drop tops. It was coupes only on my wish list. But if I'm honest with myself it's more a weekend ripper than a track weapon so this fits the bill for sure. Haha it does. Doesn't go to 9k like the GT3 BUT 3000 lbs, 4L NA flat 6, 8k rpm, and a 6 speed manual is a winning combo IMO. |
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Originally Posted By whiplash10: Didn't realize this thread existed, psyched to be able to post in it. After ordering a 992 Carrera S, I bailed on it and went for this instead. Way less practical, but way more fun for me. And I figured the GT division rarely puts out roofless cars (especially at this price point) so why not. It's had GT4 scoops, over axle pipes, RS tips, and full PPF added. Definitely have been having a blast with it. https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53758342198_a3184b8480_b.jpg https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53764983150_ac5f504fb1_b.jpg https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53590921262_de1a9e47bd_b.jpg https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53764598361_dff5beb3fe_c.jpg View Quote I like that. |
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Originally Posted By beitodesstrafe: Dirty Porsche after the polo tournament. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/138374/20240602_115135-3233078.jpg https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/138374/20240602_115143-3233077.jpg https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/138374/20240602_105555-3230109.jpg https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/138374/20240602_104310-3230110.jpg https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/138374/20240602_112038-3233084.jpg https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/138374/20240602_110046-3233085.jpg https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/138374/20240602_105623-3233086.jpg View Quote |
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Originally Posted By MATTINFAIRBORN: How did the horses react to you competing in your Porsche? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By MATTINFAIRBORN: Originally Posted By beitodesstrafe: Dirty Porsche after the polo tournament. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/138374/20240602_115135-3233078.jpg https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/138374/20240602_115143-3233077.jpg https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/138374/20240602_105555-3230109.jpg https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/138374/20240602_104310-3230110.jpg https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/138374/20240602_112038-3233084.jpg https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/138374/20240602_110046-3233085.jpg https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/138374/20240602_105623-3233086.jpg |
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