[ARCHIVED THREAD] - The P320 beats out Gluck and HK (Page 1 of 3)
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Swiss Army opts for most economical pistol model The SIG Sauer P320 will be the Swiss Army's new service pistol. The army intends to procure 50,000 of them in a first instalment. It is the most budget-friendly model, according to Armasuisse. A mid double-digit million euro sum is earmarked for this. There were three models to choose from: Glock G45 Gen 5, Heckler & Koch SFP9 and SIG Sauer P320. All of them were subjected to “intensive and comprehensive technical testing, a troop trial and the examination of logistical aspects”, the Federal Armaments Office Armasuisse wrote on Thursday. Only the Glock G45 met all the criteria but wasn’t chosen. “However, an overall armaments policy and economic assessment showed that the SIG Sauer P320 model had substantial advantages in relevant areas,” Armasuisse wrote. The SIG Sauer did not fulfil one technical requirement and also led to “non-approval for troop suitability”. However, all safety-relevant aspects were assured. The manufacturer has now promised “binding” improvements. The cheapest option According to a review, the new service pistol has the lowest total costs compared to the other test models over its planned service life of 30 years. A total of 140,000 of these are needed. Armasuisse initially intends to order 50,000. According to the current budget, an amount in the mid double-digit millions has been set aside for the procurement. In addition, the manufacturer SIG Sauer has announced the relocation of key production elements to Switzerland. The procurement would thus be in line with the government’s armaments policy strategy. This envisages maintaining and developing security-relevant industrial capabilities in Switzerland. The SIG Sauer P320 thus replaces the previous standard pistol – the SIG P220, which was introduced 50 years ago. I’d love to know what “one technical requirement” the Sig failed to provide (but still was selected somehow) |
Good for them. I hope it serves em well. No hate at all here. In my mind almost all commerce is good commerce for the globe and in turn all of us.  I got no reason to cheer or smear the product.Now my personal, biased, "opinions are like buttholes" feeling is, there is a real issue of frame distortion/pressure infrequently and rarely causing, what are they calling it these days - "uncommanded discharges"? So I'm still not gonna carry mine. But again, this is just my personal feelz. Good for SIG in landing this, cause my gut says they sure could use a break these days.  |
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Quoted: did anyone actually read the article? Only the G45 technically met the requirements, but sig still won out by promising the guns are actually safe and would make any fixes required while in service  Sig must provide next level soul altering blow job services. |
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Honestly, I was impressed actually. |
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Price, and it sounds like a promise to relocate some manufacturing. Kinda hard to beat that. |
 Quoted: Hmm. Maybe the Swiss aren't as rife with people who mishandle their guns, have a negligent discharge, and then lie about it. ?? Attached File |
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Quoted: Hmm. Maybe the Swiss aren't as rife with people who mishandle their guns, have a negligent discharge, and then lie about it. ?? If what you're saying were remotely true, we'd be seeing incidents like this in the same proportional amount with other service pistols as well. We're not. Ipso facto, you're wrong and the gun is junk. Imagine taking any "sides" other than the one holding manufacturers accountable for producing safe firearms. 
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Only the Glock G45 met all the criteria but wasn't chosen. "However, an overall armaments policy and economic assessment showed that the SIG Sauer P320 model had substantial advantages in relevant areas," Armasuisse wrote. The SIG Sauer did not fulfil one technical requirement and also led to "non-approval for troop suitability". However, all safety-relevant aspects were assured. The manufacturer has now promised "binding" improvements.
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Quoted: Lol, if your side gets to bandy about that 400 number, mine at least gets to point out that simply believing the story behind each incident on its face because obviously nobody would ever lie about that is, well....kinda naive. Quoted: Quoted: Hello, Ron. Lol, if your side gets to bandy about that 400 number, mine at least gets to point out that simply believing the story behind each incident on its face because obviously nobody would ever lie about that is, well....kinda naive. Even if only a percentage of those incidents are legit and 0.5% of 320s are actually affected. That’s still not exactly confidence inspiring in the design. |
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Quoted: Holy shit . That sounds like a soup sandwich. Quoted: Quoted: did anyone actually read the article? Only the G45 technically met the requirements, but sig still won out by promising the guns are actually safe and would make any fixes required while in service Holy shit . That sounds like a soup sandwich. What's French, German, or Italian for "Soup sandwich"? |
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Quoted: Funny how a SIG needs production to be relocated to Switzerland. Maybe the Swiss built P320s will become a thing in the future, and maybe the quality control will be better. Doubt they'll be able to export them though. Assembled in CH, with international materials. As in indian pot metal |
