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8/13/2016 9:40:51 PM EDT

There is a famous story in which the Kaiser asks Bismarck, "Can you prove the existence of God?” Bismarck replies, "The Jews, your majesty. The Jews.”






No group in history has had such a lasting influence on the world and such a long career in the face of so many attempts to destroy them.














8/13/2016 9:46:56 PM EDT
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are those jewboobs in your avatar?... because, those are having a pretty lasting influence on me..
8/13/2016 9:47:21 PM EDT
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8/13/2016 9:49:08 PM EDT
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No group in history has had such a lasting influence on the world and such a long career in the face of so many attempts to destroy them.



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It isn't over yet. The Holocaust was simply a reflection of what we are told will come.

 
8/13/2016 9:49:43 PM EDT
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8/13/2016 9:49:44 PM EDT
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They killed Jesus you know.
8/13/2016 9:51:53 PM EDT
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Who was himself a Jew  



A necessary step I bringing us salvation
8/13/2016 9:52:07 PM EDT
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We all have big noses, control the banks, media, and hollywood. We're cheap too.

Did i cover the full spectrum of GD antisemitism ?
8/13/2016 9:52:21 PM EDT
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8/13/2016 9:52:25 PM EDT
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That doesn't really prove the existence of any God. Just because people are persecuted, doesn't prove the existence of their God. Many people of different religions have been persecuted. Pagans have been persecuted but they still exist.

- Post-Holocaust Jewish theology has generally moved away from a personal God in favor of a "natural/Spinoza's God" (which is a far cry from the anthropomorphic Biblical God)
- It was Christians (who worship the same God) who've historically persecuted Jews.
- The problem of evil still persists. An all-loving, all-knowing, omnipresent God watched people suffer tremendously and did nothing. There's always the "suffering is just part of God's plan" answer, but that doesn't really fly with an all-loving, all-knowing, omnipresent God that watches children get raped (who have no freewill), is child rape also part of this all-loving God's plan? He just watched, fully capable of stopping it but instead did nothing. Apparently he intervenes with people's kneepain though.
- There's no good objective evidence for any God(s)(esses).
8/13/2016 9:53:16 PM EDT
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Did i cover the full spectrum of GD antisemitism ?
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They killed Jesus you know.






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You left out the part about how y'all murder Christian babies for your rituals
8/13/2016 9:55:09 PM EDT
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That doesn't really prove the existence of any God. Just because people are persecuted, doesn't prove the existence of their God. Many people of different religions have been persecuted. Pagans have been persecuted but they still exist.



- Post-Holocaust Jewish theology has generally moved away from a personal God in favor of a "natural/Spinoza's God" (which is a far cry from the anthropomorphic Biblical God)

- It was Christians (who worship the same God) who've historically persecuted Jews.

- The problem of evil still persists. An all-loving, all-knowing, omnipresent God watched people suffer tremendously and did nothing. There's always the "suffering is just part of God's plan" answer, but that doesn't really fly with an all-loving, all-knowing, omnipresent God that watches children get raped (who have no freewill), is child rape also part of this all-loving God's plan? He just watched, fully capable of stopping it but instead did nothing. Apparently he intervenes with people's kneepain though.
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I'm waiting for those Druids to knock on my door selling pamphlets any moment
8/13/2016 9:55:15 PM EDT
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He was sent to die.
8/13/2016 9:55:30 PM EDT
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You left out the part about how y'all murder Christian babies for your rituals
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We all have big noses, control the banks, media, and hollywood. We're cheap too.

Did i cover the full spectrum of GD antisemitism ?
You left out the part about how y'all murder Christian babies for your rituals



Oy vey.... Where is my capi at....
8/13/2016 9:56:28 PM EDT
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They re the apple of God's eye.  Nuff said.



/thread
8/13/2016 9:56:36 PM EDT
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That doesn't really prove the existence of any God. Just because people are persecuted, doesn't prove the existence of their God. Many people of different religions have been persecuted. Pagans have been persecuted but they still exist.



- Post-Holocaust Jewish theology has generally moved away from a personal God in favor of a "natural/Spinoza's God" (which is a far cry from the anthropomorphic Biblical God)

- It was Christians (who worship the same God) who've historically persecuted Jews.

- The problem of evil still persists. An all-loving, all-knowing, omnipresent God watched people suffer tremendously and did nothing. There's always the "suffering is just part of God's plan" answer, but that doesn't really fly with an all-loving, all-knowing, omnipresent God that watches children get raped (who have no freewill), is child rape also part of this all-loving God's plan? He just watched, fully capable of stopping it but instead did nothing. Apparently he intervenes with people's kneepain though.
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The fact that you pop into any remotely religious thread to argue against God seems to betray your non-belief.

 



I mean, who spends their evenings arguing against the existence of the Easter Bunny?
8/13/2016 9:57:19 PM EDT
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Did i cover the full spectrum of GD antisemitism ?
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We all have big noses, control the banks, media, and hollywood. We're cheap too.

Did i cover the full spectrum of GD antisemitism ?




Im not a jew. I have a Hebrew name, my dick is circumcised, I hate pork, and I love gold. I guess you could say Im jew..ish. Lol get it, jewish!
8/13/2016 9:57:39 PM EDT
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Yea, I was thinking whoa that is quite a change



 
8/13/2016 9:57:45 PM EDT
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Did i cover the full spectrum of GD antisemitism ?
Nobody fucks with the Jesus!

 
8/13/2016 9:58:36 PM EDT
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are those jewboobs in your avatar?... because, those are having a pretty lasting influence on me..
Yea, I was thinking whoa that is quite a change

 
I'm wondering what kind of bass response she gets wearing the headphones like that.
8/13/2016 9:58:40 PM EDT
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The fact that you pop into any remotely religious thread to argue against God seems to betray your non-belief.    

I mean, who spends their evenings arguing against the existence of the Easter Bunny?
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That doesn't really prove the existence of any God. Just because people are persecuted, doesn't prove the existence of their God. Many people of different religions have been persecuted. Pagans have been persecuted but they still exist.

- Post-Holocaust Jewish theology has generally moved away from a personal God in favor of a "natural/Spinoza's God" (which is a far cry from the anthropomorphic Biblical God)
- It was Christians (who worship the same God) who've historically persecuted Jews.
- The problem of evil still persists. An all-loving, all-knowing, omnipresent God watched people suffer tremendously and did nothing. There's always the "suffering is just part of God's plan" answer, but that doesn't really fly with an all-loving, all-knowing, omnipresent God that watches children get raped (who have no freewill), is child rape also part of this all-loving God's plan? He just watched, fully capable of stopping it but instead did nothing. Apparently he intervenes with people's kneepain though.
The fact that you pop into any remotely religious thread to argue against God seems to betray your non-belief.    

I mean, who spends their evenings arguing against the existence of the Easter Bunny?


Beliefs inform actions. How do people expect to deal with Fundamentalist Muslims if they can't deal with Fundamentalist Christians (who grew up in the 1st world and exposed to the Enlightenment)?

Christianity used to be just as fundamentalist as Muslims are during the Dark Ages. It was the Enlightenment and modernization that changed that. The Fundamentalist/Modern split that happened diverted things.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fundamentalist%E2%80%93Modernist_Controversy
8/13/2016 9:58:44 PM EDT
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This thread bums me out
8/13/2016 9:59:50 PM EDT
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That doesn't really prove the existence of any God. Just because people are persecuted, doesn't prove the existence of their God. Many people of different religions have been persecuted. Pagans have been persecuted but they still exist.



- Post-Holocaust Jewish theology has generally moved away from a personal God in favor of a "natural/Spinoza's God" (which is a far cry from the anthropomorphic Biblical God)

- It was Christians (who worship the same God) who've historically persecuted Jews.

- The problem of evil still persists. An all-loving, all-knowing, omnipresent God watched people suffer tremendously and did nothing. There's always the "suffering is just part of God's plan" answer, but that doesn't really fly with an all-loving, all-knowing, omnipresent God that watches children get raped (who have no freewill), is child rape also part of this all-loving God's plan? He just watched, fully capable of stopping it but instead did nothing. Apparently he intervenes with people's kneepain though.
The fact that you pop into any remotely religious thread to argue against God seems to betray your non-belief.    



I mean, who spends their evenings arguing against the existence of the Easter Bunny?





Beliefs inform actions. How do people expect to deal with Fundamentalist Muslims if they can't deal with Fundamentalist Christians?
Good Lord man, it was just a dead German's opinion.



Besides, we aren't trying to cut your head off.
 
8/13/2016 10:01:06 PM EDT
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We all have big noses, control the banks, media, and hollywood. We're cheap too.

Did i cover the full spectrum of GD antisemitism ?

Nobody fucks with the Jesus!  



Round 87......  

Fight!
8/13/2016 10:01:40 PM EDT
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8/13/2016 10:03:00 PM EDT
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They re the apple of God's eye.  Nuff said.

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Well, hmmm they wrote The Bible dude. I like how Jacob(Israel) was a trickster and a deceiver and swindled his brother(Esau) out of his blessing and birthright. I dont know why anyone names their kids Jacob these days. In The Bible he doesnt seem like a very honest guy.
8/13/2016 10:03:28 PM EDT
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We all have big noses, control the banks, media, and hollywood. We're cheap too.

Did i cover the full spectrum of GD antisemitism ?
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We all have big noses, control the banks, media, and hollywood. We're cheap too.

Did i cover the full spectrum of GD antisemitism ?

Workaholics who drink the blood of babies and whine about their mothers incessantly.

And always carry in condition 3.
8/13/2016 10:03:39 PM EDT
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I guess God is a raging leftist.
8/13/2016 10:05:04 PM EDT
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Good Lord man, it was just a dead German's opinion.

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That doesn't really prove the existence of any God. Just because people are persecuted, doesn't prove the existence of their God. Many people of different religions have been persecuted. Pagans have been persecuted but they still exist.

- Post-Holocaust Jewish theology has generally moved away from a personal God in favor of a "natural/Spinoza's God" (which is a far cry from the anthropomorphic Biblical God)
- It was Christians (who worship the same God) who've historically persecuted Jews.
- The problem of evil still persists. An all-loving, all-knowing, omnipresent God watched people suffer tremendously and did nothing. There's always the "suffering is just part of God's plan" answer, but that doesn't really fly with an all-loving, all-knowing, omnipresent God that watches children get raped (who have no freewill), is child rape also part of this all-loving God's plan? He just watched, fully capable of stopping it but instead did nothing. Apparently he intervenes with people's kneepain though.
The fact that you pop into any remotely religious thread to argue against God seems to betray your non-belief.    

I mean, who spends their evenings arguing against the existence of the Easter Bunny?


Beliefs inform actions. How do people expect to deal with Fundamentalist Muslims if they can't deal with Fundamentalist Christians?
Good Lord man, it was just a dead German's opinion.

Besides, we aren't trying to cut your head off.
 


Thank you Enlightenment.

Even today, (exposed to the Enlightenment), there's plenty of Christians who could care less about the same people Fundamentalist Muslims could care less about. Fundamentalism fights the future. Fundamentalist Christians are ahead of Fundamentalist Muslims in this regard because of the Enlightenment. The Dark Ages wasn't that different from what ISIS is doing now. Muslims are just now historically being exposed to Enlightenment ideals/the Internet/etc. The Enlightenment changed Christianity.
8/13/2016 10:05:19 PM EDT
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Im not a jew. I have a Hebrew name, my dick is circumcised, I hate pork, and I love gold. I guess you could say Im jew..ish. Lol get it, jewish!
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They killed Jesus you know.



We all have big noses, control the banks, media, and hollywood. We're cheap too.

Did i cover the full spectrum of GD antisemitism ?




Im not a jew. I have a Hebrew name, my dick is circumcised, I hate pork, and I love gold. I guess you could say Im jew..ish. Lol get it, jewish!






We all can't be perfect.















































8/13/2016 10:05:38 PM EDT
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The sins of Mankind killed Jesus.
8/13/2016 10:06:48 PM EDT
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What shocks me so much is that with their history of facing persecution and violence from just about every other group on this planet...the American Liberal Jew so willing and happily licks the boot of .gov and wants us all to be disarmed.

I would think they would be the strongest proponents of our 2A rights.
8/13/2016 10:09:16 PM EDT
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Workaholics who drink the blood of babies and whine about their mothers incessantly.

And always carry in condition 3.
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They killed Jesus you know.



We all have big noses, control the banks, media, and hollywood. We're cheap too.

Did i cover the full spectrum of GD antisemitism ?

Workaholics who drink the blood of babies and whine about their mothers incessantly.

And always carry in condition 3.



We all don't fit every stereotype...

Raised by my father. No mama to whine about.

I prefer whiskey to babies blood.

I carry a Glock 19 condition 1.

I am a workaholic, when motivated though.

8/13/2016 10:09:46 PM EDT
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The sins of Mankind killed Jesus.


There's no original sin without a literal Biblical Adam & Eve. A literal Biblical Adam & Eve is not scientifically accurate (DNA shows this). A mitochondrial Eve is a far cry from the literal Biblical Eve. Even that mitochrondrial Eve shows that we share a common ancestor with apes (and that we're part of the Great Apes genetic family).

That's not even getting into the immorality of being responsible for someone else's sin. People will cry foul about them being responsible for their grand-father being a slave-owner but somehow are responsible that some other dude ate an apple before they were even born.
8/13/2016 10:10:26 PM EDT
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That doesn't really prove the existence of any God. Just because people are persecuted, doesn't prove the existence of their God. Many people of different religions have been persecuted. Pagans have been persecuted but they still exist.

- Post-Holocaust Jewish theology has generally moved away from a personal God in favor of a "natural/Spinoza's God" (which is a far cry from the anthropomorphic Biblical God)
- It was Christians (who worship the same God) who've historically persecuted Jews.
- The problem of evil still persists. An all-loving, all-knowing, omnipresent God watched people suffer tremendously and did nothing. There's always the "suffering is just part of God's plan" answer, but that doesn't really fly with an all-loving, all-knowing, omnipresent God that watches children get raped (who have no freewill), is child rape also part of this all-loving God's plan? He just watched, fully capable of stopping it but instead did nothing. Apparently he intervenes with people's kneepain though.
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Faith exists without evidence.

Frankly, if there is no overriding omniscient authority out there, then life is meaningless pursuit of pleasure and an ultimately failed attempt to outrun pain.  Without God, there is no such thing as virtue.  There is only jockeying for advantage.

I have had a hard life and I have seen the horrible things that men can do to each other.  I cannot fully understand why there is so much evil.

If there is no God, then we are nothing more than animals and animals kill each other's babies and do violent things to each other as a normal part of life and death.

What God gave man was something that the animals cannot have.  That is a personal relationship with him.  God tells us that believing in Him will not make the world perfect.  It will simply give us hope and that eventually we will have eternity with him.

Free will means that we have the choice not to act like animals.  We can act out of love.  God is the source of all love.  We are created in God's image.  God is spirit.  What differs us from animals is that we are imbued with a divine spirit that animals can not have.  

It comes at a price.  God gives us a choice.  Be one of his faithful children and no matter what, your eternity will be fine.

If you reject him, you will perish just like any other animal but be stuck thinking about it for eternity.  That is an eternity of complete consciousness and absolute isolation from anything good.
8/13/2016 10:13:30 PM EDT
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Beliefs inform actions. How do people expect to deal with Fundamentalist Muslims if they can't deal with Fundamentalist Christians (who grew up in the 1st world and exposed to the Enlightenment)?

Christianity used to be just as fundamentalist as Muslims are during the Dark Ages. It was the Enlightenment and modernization that changed that. The Fundamentalist/Modern split that happened diverted things.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fundamentalist%E2%80%93Modernist_Controversy
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That doesn't really prove the existence of any God. Just because people are persecuted, doesn't prove the existence of their God. Many people of different religions have been persecuted. Pagans have been persecuted but they still exist.

- Post-Holocaust Jewish theology has generally moved away from a personal God in favor of a "natural/Spinoza's God" (which is a far cry from the anthropomorphic Biblical God)
- It was Christians (who worship the same God) who've historically persecuted Jews.
- The problem of evil still persists. An all-loving, all-knowing, omnipresent God watched people suffer tremendously and did nothing. There's always the "suffering is just part of God's plan" answer, but that doesn't really fly with an all-loving, all-knowing, omnipresent God that watches children get raped (who have no freewill), is child rape also part of this all-loving God's plan? He just watched, fully capable of stopping it but instead did nothing. Apparently he intervenes with people's kneepain though.
The fact that you pop into any remotely religious thread to argue against God seems to betray your non-belief.    

I mean, who spends their evenings arguing against the existence of the Easter Bunny?


Beliefs inform actions. How do people expect to deal with Fundamentalist Muslims if they can't deal with Fundamentalist Christians (who grew up in the 1st world and exposed to the Enlightenment)?

Christianity used to be just as fundamentalist as Muslims are during the Dark Ages. It was the Enlightenment and modernization that changed that. The Fundamentalist/Modern split that happened diverted things.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fundamentalist%E2%80%93Modernist_Controversy


I thought I heard the sound of an axe grinding.
8/13/2016 10:13:53 PM EDT
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We all don't fit every stereotype...

Raised by my father. No mama to whine about.

I prefer whiskey to babies blood.

I carry a Glock 19 condition 1.

I am a workaholic, when motivated though.

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They killed Jesus you know.



We all have big noses, control the banks, media, and hollywood. We're cheap too.

Did i cover the full spectrum of GD antisemitism ?

Workaholics who drink the blood of babies and whine about their mothers incessantly.

And always carry in condition 3.



We all don't fit every stereotype...

Raised by my father. No mama to whine about.

I prefer whiskey to babies blood.

I carry a Glock 19 condition 1.

I am a workaholic, when motivated though.


You don't even mix a little blood with the whiskey as a chaser? You're no fun.
8/13/2016 10:15:56 PM EDT
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We're everywhere.

Everywhere....

Never forget

That


8/13/2016 10:20:03 PM EDT
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Thank you Enlightenment.



Even today, (exposed to the Enlightenment), there's plenty of Christians who could care less about the same people Fundamentalist Muslims could care less about. Fundamentalism fights the future. Fundamentalist Christians are ahead of Fundamentalist Muslims in this regard because of the Enlightenment. The Dark Ages wasn't that different from what ISIS is doing now. Muslims are just now historically being exposed to Enlightenment ideals/the Internet/etc. The Enlightenment changed Christianity.

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Good Lord man, it was just a dead German's opinion.



Besides, we aren't trying to cut your head off.

 




Thank you Enlightenment.



Even today, (exposed to the Enlightenment), there's plenty of Christians who could care less about the same people Fundamentalist Muslims could care less about. Fundamentalism fights the future. Fundamentalist Christians are ahead of Fundamentalist Muslims in this regard because of the Enlightenment. The Dark Ages wasn't that different from what ISIS is doing now. Muslims are just now historically being exposed to Enlightenment ideals/the Internet/etc. The Enlightenment changed Christianity.

Dude, the Dark Ages weren't that dark.



The irony is that you can't see your own "fundamentalism" here.



 





8/13/2016 10:20:40 PM EDT
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That doesn't really prove the existence of any God. Just because people are persecuted, doesn't prove the existence of their God. Many people of different religions have been persecuted. Pagans have been persecuted but they still exist.



- Post-Holocaust Jewish theology has generally moved away from a personal God in favor of a "natural/Spinoza's God" (which is a far cry from the anthropomorphic Biblical God)

- It was Christians (who worship the same God) who've historically persecuted Jews.

- The problem of evil still persists. An all-loving, all-knowing, omnipresent God watched people suffer tremendously and did nothing. There's always the "suffering is just part of God's plan" answer, but that doesn't really fly with an all-loving, all-knowing, omnipresent God that watches children get raped (who have no freewill), is child rape also part of this all-loving God's plan? He just watched, fully capable of stopping it but instead did nothing. Apparently he intervenes with people's kneepain though.
The fact that you pop into any remotely religious thread to argue against God seems to betray your non-belief.    



I mean, who spends their evenings arguing against the existence of the Easter Bunny?





Beliefs inform actions. How do people expect to deal with Fundamentalist Muslims if they can't deal with Fundamentalist Christians (who grew up in the 1st world and exposed to the Enlightenment)?



Christianity used to be just as fundamentalist as Muslims are during the Dark Ages. It was the Enlightenment and modernization that changed that. The Fundamentalist/Modern split that happened diverted things.



https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fundamentalist%E2%80%93Modernist_Controversy





I thought I heard the sound of an axe grinding.
lol

 
8/13/2016 10:20:55 PM EDT
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Mostly in congress trying to ban guns.
8/13/2016 10:23:18 PM EDT
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Mostly in congress trying to ban guns.
Or...here:

 




8/13/2016 10:27:25 PM EDT
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Faith exists without evidence.

Frankly, if there is no overriding omniscient authority out there, then life is meaningless pursuit of pleasure and an ultimately failed attempt to outrun pain.  Without God, there is no such thing as virtue.  There is only jockeying for advantage.

I have had a hard life and I have seen the horrible things that men can do to each other.  I cannot fully understand why there is so much evil.

If there is no God, then we are nothing more than animals and animals kill each other's babies and do violent things to each other as a normal part of life and death.

What God gave man was something that the animals cannot have.  That is a personal relationship with him.  God tells us that believing in Him will not make the world perfect.  It will simply give us hope and that eventually we will have eternity with him.

Free will means that we have the choice not to act like animals.  We can act out of love.  God is the source of all love.  We are created in God's image.  God is spirit.  What differs us from animals is that we are imbued with a divine spirit that animals can not have.  

It comes at a price.  God gives us a choice.  Be one of his faithful children and no matter what, your eternity will be fine.

If you reject him, you will perish just like any other animal but be stuck thinking about it for eternity.  That is an eternity of complete consciousness and absolute isolation from anything good.
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That doesn't really prove the existence of any God. Just because people are persecuted, doesn't prove the existence of their God. Many people of different religions have been persecuted. Pagans have been persecuted but they still exist.

- Post-Holocaust Jewish theology has generally moved away from a personal God in favor of a "natural/Spinoza's God" (which is a far cry from the anthropomorphic Biblical God)
- It was Christians (who worship the same God) who've historically persecuted Jews.
- The problem of evil still persists. An all-loving, all-knowing, omnipresent God watched people suffer tremendously and did nothing. There's always the "suffering is just part of God's plan" answer, but that doesn't really fly with an all-loving, all-knowing, omnipresent God that watches children get raped (who have no freewill), is child rape also part of this all-loving God's plan? He just watched, fully capable of stopping it but instead did nothing. Apparently he intervenes with people's kneepain though.
- There's no good objective evidence for any God(s)(esses).


Faith exists without evidence.

Frankly, if there is no overriding omniscient authority out there, then life is meaningless pursuit of pleasure and an ultimately failed attempt to outrun pain.  Without God, there is no such thing as virtue.  There is only jockeying for advantage.

I have had a hard life and I have seen the horrible things that men can do to each other.  I cannot fully understand why there is so much evil.

If there is no God, then we are nothing more than animals and animals kill each other's babies and do violent things to each other as a normal part of life and death.

What God gave man was something that the animals cannot have.  That is a personal relationship with him.  God tells us that believing in Him will not make the world perfect.  It will simply give us hope and that eventually we will have eternity with him.

Free will means that we have the choice not to act like animals.  We can act out of love.  God is the source of all love.  We are created in God's image.  God is spirit.  What differs us from animals is that we are imbued with a divine spirit that animals can not have.  

It comes at a price.  God gives us a choice.  Be one of his faithful children and no matter what, your eternity will be fine.

If you reject him, you will perish just like any other animal but be stuck thinking about it for eternity.  That is an eternity of complete consciousness and absolute isolation from anything good.


Faith does exist without good objective evidence. Multiple religions believe things based on faith and come to mutually contradictory conclusions. Faith is not a good way to truth.

The universe doesn't owe you a meaning. It could just be that life is meaningless. I'm in favor of the Existentialist view (no inherent meaning, people define the meaning in their own lives). You can find meaning in your life by helping others. You can find meaning by living in the moment (Camus/Myth of Sisyphus).

With God, there's no such thing as virtue. God either commands things that are already objectively virtuous (in which case morality lies outside of God), or he commands things to being virtuous (in which case, anything can be considered virtuous depending on his dictate). If God can't make rape moral (or if it's not "in his nature"), then morality lies outside of God.

We're in fact animals. We know this scientifically. Evolution is known to the highest degree/confidence-level in science. Before the whole "evolution is a theory" crowd, Germ theory is also a theory. A theory is one of the highest things in science. Describing the way things are, doesn't denote the way things should be. This also goes into the naturalistic fallacy.

There's no good objective evidence for a "divine spirit" within us. People tried to test for such a spirit when Science and Religion were more mixed. This "spirit" then moved to the more supernatural realm.

There's no freewill with an all-knowing God that created you. He knows exactly what you'll do before he created you and then he creates you knowing this. There's no freewill in such a scenario.

Religions have historically used such carrot/stick scenarios to keep people believing their specific religion. Faith (believing in things without good objective evidence) is not a good way to truth.
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Soooo what you're saying is.....
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What shocks me so much is that with their history of facing persecution and violence from just about every other group on this planet...the American Liberal Jew so willing and happily licks the boot of .gov and wants us all to be disarmed.

I would think they would be the strongest proponents of our 2A rights.
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I don't know why people think this.  Judaism is a religion or culture with a strong social justice vein....even more so than Catholicism and the culture surrounding it.  Jews are overwhelmingly left wing, and have disproportionately been at the foundation of left wing ideologies or prominent members of said movements. Nothing is going to change that, and it trumps every other consideration. Jews are also often drawn into professions where government action, manipulation, or influence would benefit their positions and careers, so why would they be anti-government?  I imagine Jews are second only to American blacks when it comes to their dependability to vote Democrat by large margins. It is very unfortunate.

If only they were all like Sylvan.
8/13/2016 10:29:17 PM EDT
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Faith exists without evidence.



Frankly, if there is no overriding omniscient authority out there, then life is meaningless pursuit of pleasure and an ultimately failed attempt to outrun pain.  Without God, there is no such thing as virtue.  There is only jockeying for advantage.



I have had a hard life and I have seen the horrible things that men can do to each other.  I cannot fully understand why there is so much evil.



If there is no God, then we are nothing more than animals and animals kill each other's babies and do violent things to each other as a normal part of life and death.



What God gave man was something that the animals cannot have.  That is a personal relationship with him.  God tells us that believing in Him will not make the world perfect.  It will simply give us hope and that eventually we will have eternity with him.



Free will means that we have the choice not to act like animals.  We can act out of love.  God is the source of all love.  We are created in God's image.  God is spirit.  What differs us from animals is that we are imbued with a divine spirit that animals can not have.  



It comes at a price.  God gives us a choice.  Be one of his faithful children and no matter what, your eternity will be fine.



If you reject him, you will perish just like any other animal but be stuck thinking about it for eternity.  That is an eternity of complete consciousness and absolute isolation from anything good.
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That doesn't really prove the existence of any God. Just because people are persecuted, doesn't prove the existence of their God. Many people of different religions have been persecuted. Pagans have been persecuted but they still exist.



- Post-Holocaust Jewish theology has generally moved away from a personal God in favor of a "natural/Spinoza's God" (which is a far cry from the anthropomorphic Biblical God)

- It was Christians (who worship the same God) who've historically persecuted Jews.

- The problem of evil still persists. An all-loving, all-knowing, omnipresent God watched people suffer tremendously and did nothing. There's always the "suffering is just part of God's plan" answer, but that doesn't really fly with an all-loving, all-knowing, omnipresent God that watches children get raped (who have no freewill), is child rape also part of this all-loving God's plan? He just watched, fully capable of stopping it but instead did nothing. Apparently he intervenes with people's kneepain though.

- There's no good objective evidence for any God(s)(esses).




Faith exists without evidence.



Frankly, if there is no overriding omniscient authority out there, then life is meaningless pursuit of pleasure and an ultimately failed attempt to outrun pain.  Without God, there is no such thing as virtue.  There is only jockeying for advantage.



I have had a hard life and I have seen the horrible things that men can do to each other.  I cannot fully understand why there is so much evil.



If there is no God, then we are nothing more than animals and animals kill each other's babies and do violent things to each other as a normal part of life and death.



What God gave man was something that the animals cannot have.  That is a personal relationship with him.  God tells us that believing in Him will not make the world perfect.  It will simply give us hope and that eventually we will have eternity with him.



Free will means that we have the choice not to act like animals.  We can act out of love.  God is the source of all love.  We are created in God's image.  God is spirit.  What differs us from animals is that we are imbued with a divine spirit that animals can not have.  



It comes at a price.  God gives us a choice.  Be one of his faithful children and no matter what, your eternity will be fine.



If you reject him, you will perish just like any other animal but be stuck thinking about it for eternity.  That is an eternity of complete consciousness and absolute isolation from anything good.
Bravo
8/13/2016 10:30:09 PM EDT
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8/13/2016 10:32:10 PM EDT
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You don't even mix a little blood with the whiskey as a chaser? You're no fun.
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They killed Jesus you know.



We all have big noses, control the banks, media, and hollywood. We're cheap too.

Did i cover the full spectrum of GD antisemitism ?

Workaholics who drink the blood of babies and whine about their mothers incessantly.

And always carry in condition 3.



We all don't fit every stereotype...

Raised by my father. No mama to whine about.

I prefer whiskey to babies blood.

I carry a Glock 19 condition 1.

I am a workaholic, when motivated though.


You don't even mix a little blood with the whiskey as a chaser? You're no fun.



Nope.

I dip my challah in the blood...
8/13/2016 10:33:11 PM EDT
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I don't know why people think this.  Judaism is a religion or culture with a strong social justice vein....even more so than Catholicism and the culture surrounding it.  Jews are overwhelmingly left wing, and have disproportionately been at the foundation of left wing ideologies or prominent members of said movements. Nothing is going to change that, and it trumps every other consideration. Jews are also often drawn into professions where government action, manipulation, or influence would benefit their positions and careers, so why would they be anti-government?  I imagine Jews are second only to American blacks when it comes to their dependability to vote Democrat by large margins. It is very unfortunate.
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What shocks me so much is that with their history of facing persecution and violence from just about every other group on this planet...the American Liberal Jew so willing and happily licks the boot of .gov and wants us all to be disarmed.



I would think they would be the strongest proponents of our 2A rights.




I don't know why people think this.  Judaism is a religion or culture with a strong social justice vein....even more so than Catholicism and the culture surrounding it.  Jews are overwhelmingly left wing, and have disproportionately been at the foundation of left wing ideologies or prominent members of said movements. Nothing is going to change that, and it trumps every other consideration. Jews are also often drawn into professions where government action, manipulation, or influence would benefit their positions and careers, so why would they be anti-government?  I imagine Jews are second only to American blacks when it comes to their dependability to vote Democrat by large margins. It is very unfortunate.
Eastern Europe was bad for the Jews and led to some of this



However, I once remember reading that it is innate to their religion but I can't find the part of the book or recall the details.

It's been years. It was in Will Durant's Civilization
8/13/2016 10:33:21 PM EDT
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He was sent to die.
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He was sent to die.


We're all here to die.
8/13/2016 10:34:10 PM EDT
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Wasn't there a thread where someone said hasidic jews hissed at him before

I want to say extorsis or whatever his name is, the ex cop.

I don't have beef with the jews, except for maybe the chabad (to the bone). They would always ask me if I was jewish. I can imagine how much an actual jew hates to run into them
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