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8/6/2017 10:10:47 PM EDT
I assume that most people here would not want to switch to the metric system.  What I want to know is:  Why not?
8/6/2017 10:11:56 PM EDT
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It's inching it's way into everyday life.......
8/6/2017 10:13:27 PM EDT
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fucking doctors
8/6/2017 10:14:19 PM EDT
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Metric is awesome but sae is here to stay.  We machine in thousandths here even if it's a metric part.

Metric is much simpler, know what's one bigger than a 12mm wrench?  Know what's one bigger than a 7/16s?
8/6/2017 10:14:25 PM EDT
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Go back to DU please.
8/6/2017 10:15:28 PM EDT
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I'm fine with metric, it's just when the 2 get mixed that I have a problem.

We will still have SAE everywhere, and still have to keep both sets of tools handy.

FWIW, the metric system never won a world War or put a man on the moon.
8/6/2017 10:15:37 PM EDT
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Metric is awesome but sae is here to stay.  We machine in thousandths here even if it's a metric part.

Metric is much simpler, know what's one bigger than a 12mm wrench?  Know what's one bigger than a 7/16s?
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I could fix anything on my old '68 stang with a 7/16, 1/2 and 9/16.
8/6/2017 10:16:05 PM EDT
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I use metric for most of my every day stuff - except driving and home repair (16" on center).
I wouldn't have a problem switching.
8/6/2017 10:16:12 PM EDT
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Metric and Imperial are completely mixed into our culture and industry at this point.

It'd be like trying to separate the milk and flour after you start making bread. Ain't gonna fuckin' happen.
8/6/2017 10:16:32 PM EDT
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Metric is awesome but sae is here to stay.  We machine in thousandths here even if it's a metric part.

Metric is much simpler, know what's one bigger than a 12mm wrench?  Know what's one bigger than a 7/16s?
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3/4"
8/6/2017 10:17:21 PM EDT
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We already did switch, officially.  I prefer it greatly to our stupid ass SAE system.
8/6/2017 10:18:01 PM EDT
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I'm fine with metric, it's just when the 2 get mixed that I have a problem.

We will still have SAE everywhere, and still have to keep both sets of tools handy.

FWIW, the metric system never won a world War or put a man on the moon.
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Metric to standard conversion fail did crash a mars probe though.
8/6/2017 10:18:22 PM EDT
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Metric is awesome but sae is here to stay.  We machine in thousandths here even if it's a metric part.

Metric is much simpler, know what's one bigger than a 12mm wrench?  Know what's one bigger than a 7/16s?
3/4"
8/16"  

Duh.


8/6/2017 10:18:49 PM EDT
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Metric is awesome but sae is here to stay.  We machine in thousandths here even if it's a metric part.

Metric is much simpler, know what's one bigger than a 12mm wrench?  Know what's one bigger than a 7/16s?
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No. One larger than 7/16 is 8/16 or 1/2".
8/6/2017 10:18:59 PM EDT
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metric will come to the US at some point
8/6/2017 10:19:14 PM EDT
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I assume that most people here would not want to switch to the metric system.  What I want to know is:  Why not?
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You've been here long enough to have read the arguments that prove the US Customary Units of measurement is superior, and that SI provides no advantage to the users that use it for anything besides the label on a bottle.

Proof:

An objects mass is 387 kilograms.  A force of 1678394 Newtons is applied.  The acceleration is 1678394/387 meters/second^2.

"But, but, muh multiply by 10's ..."

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ETA:  For those of you that manage to read this far -

There is no such measurement system as SAE.  The SAE sets down some standards for thread dimensions and similar matters.  It does not define a system of measures, the SAE uses the US Customary System, which is similar to the Imperial System of measures, and  simultaneously, the SI system of measure.


The problem has nothing to do with the base of the counting system.

I can specify a weight as 0.001 pounds-force, or as 0.001 Newtons.  Same with dimensions, 13.753 meters, 13.753 yards.

The key there is understanding the definitions of those four measures.  Want to talk about milli-inches?  We can do that, too.
"Milli" has a definition separate from an SI measurement system.
8/6/2017 10:19:25 PM EDT
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You know what the 1998 Dodge Dakota uses for seat bolts?  1/2" in the front and 10mm in the rear. 
8/6/2017 10:19:58 PM EDT
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Metric is for countries that haven't been to the moon.
8/6/2017 10:20:32 PM EDT
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Metric is awesome but sae is here to stay.  We machine in thousandths here even if it's a metric part.

Metric is much simpler, know what's one bigger than a 12mm wrench?  Know what's one bigger than a 7/16s?
I could fix anything on my old '68 stang with a 7/16, 1/2 and 9/16.
You need a screwdriver in there too.
8/6/2017 10:20:56 PM EDT
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Countries that don't use the metric system:

8/6/2017 10:21:03 PM EDT
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The "foot" is a useful length, centimeter is too small and meter is too big.
8/6/2017 10:21:28 PM EDT
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There are two types of countries.

Those that use the metric system.

And those who have been to the moon.
8/6/2017 10:22:13 PM EDT
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No. One larger than 7/16 is 8/16 or 1/2".
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I fucked up
.125=1/8 INCH
8/6/2017 10:23:48 PM EDT
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Countries that don't use the metric system:

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That's a fail too.  The U.K. still uses miles, gallons, stone, etc.
8/6/2017 10:24:42 PM EDT
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Do you honestly think the USA couldn't have made it to the Moon if it used the metric system???? 
8/6/2017 10:24:54 PM EDT
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Metric is awesome but sae is here to stay.  We machine in thousandths here even if it's a metric part.

Metric is much simpler, know what's one bigger than a 12mm wrench?  Know what's one bigger than a 7/16s?
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Ouch.

Point goes to metric system
8/6/2017 10:25:16 PM EDT
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Use both...
8/6/2017 10:25:21 PM EDT
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Metric is for simpletons. 
8/6/2017 10:26:17 PM EDT
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I use both....much prefer metric.
8/6/2017 10:28:29 PM EDT
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I'm drinkig
8/6/2017 10:29:05 PM EDT
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8/6/2017 10:30:02 PM EDT
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I always find myself trying to convert metric units to our units for comparison.  I haven't yet gotten to the point that I intuitively know that 37 centimeters equals X inches.   I am guessing it is 11 inches or so....about a little more than a third of a meter....

My point is it would be nice if I automatically knew what the metric equivalent was without having to do all those mental gymnastics.
8/6/2017 10:30:09 PM EDT
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Y'all are so off base with this one.  Have you ever noticed those little green number signs on the interstate?  Every mile you'll see one.  Do you have any idea how much it would cost to replace those? Taking all the signs down, buying kilometer signs, which is what 3/5 of a mile? Your talking about 40% more signs or something. We just can't do it. The cost is impossible.
8/6/2017 10:32:01 PM EDT
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Metric is awesome but sae is here to stay.  We machine in thousandths here even if it's a metric part.

Metric is much simpler, know what's one bigger than a 12mm wrench?  Know what's one bigger than a 7/16s?
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Metric makes sense until it comes to tires. REALLY fucking stupid way to size tires, holy hell. Fucking retarded. 
8/6/2017 10:32:51 PM EDT
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I learned the metric system in fifth and sixth grade.
I'm a little annoyed that I wasted two years of my peak learning ability because...
older murcans are lazy as fuck and couldn't get on board .
8/6/2017 10:33:46 PM EDT
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8/6/2017 10:34:52 PM EDT
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Metric makes sense until it comes to tires. REALLY fucking stupid way to size tires, holy hell. Fucking retarded. 
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You do know tires are already sized in a mix of metric and sae right?  It makes much more sense than the old way of 50s, 60s, 70s series tires.
8/6/2017 10:36:33 PM EDT
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You assume, do ya??
8/6/2017 10:36:43 PM EDT
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Y'all are so off base with this one.  Have you ever noticed those little green number signs on the interstate?  Every mile you'll see one.  Do you have any idea how much it would cost to replace those? Taking all the signs down, buying kilometer signs, which is what 3/5 of a mile? Your talking about 40% more signs or something. We just can't do it. The cost is impossible.
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Open a print to make nearly anything in the US.  Even components that are drawn with the features located in millimeters will have the mating features and fasteners dimensioned in inches, and nowadays, using geometric dimensioning and tolerancing (that is a whole new language).  Count and compare the numbers of end mills and drills sold; but there is a way around machining features in SI, dimension the fillet radii in inches converted to millimeters .
8/6/2017 10:37:00 PM EDT
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I'm leaning towards metric - 9x19, 5.56x45, 7.62x51
8/6/2017 10:37:55 PM EDT
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Do you honestly think the USA couldn't have made it to the Moon if it used the metric system???? 
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There are two types of countries.

Those that use the metric system.

And those who have been to the moon.
Do you honestly think the USA couldn't have made it to the Moon if it used the metric system???? 
Lol. I really don't care.  It's fun to rile up the Eurobabies and their cheerleaders.
8/6/2017 10:39:47 PM EDT
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You do know tires are already sized in a mix of metric and sae right?  It makes much more sense than the old way of 50s, 60s, 70s series tires.
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All I know is 33x12.50 makes INFINITELY more sense than 285/75.
8/6/2017 10:40:24 PM EDT
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Don't make assumptions.

I think we should quit imperial cold turkey and never look back.
8/6/2017 10:40:28 PM EDT
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Because the metric system makes no allowances for the number of barleycorns in a furlong; and I just cannot abide that.

Plus, I know just how big an acre is.  It's 10 square chains, dammit.  They'll want to learn me about hectares and such!!
8/6/2017 10:40:59 PM EDT
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You've been here long enough to have read the arguments that prove the US Customary Units of measurement is superior, and that SI provides no advantage to the users that use it for anything besides the label on a bottle.

Proof:

An objects mass is 387 kilograms.  A force of 1678394 Newtons is applied.  The acceleration is 1678394/387 meters/second^2.

"But, but, muh multiply by 10's ..."

QED
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I assume that most people here would not want to switch to the metric system.  What I want to know is:  Why not?


You've been here long enough to have read the arguments that prove the US Customary Units of measurement is superior, and that SI provides no advantage to the users that use it for anything besides the label on a bottle.

Proof:

An objects mass is 387 kilograms.  A force of 1678394 Newtons is applied.  The acceleration is 1678394/387 meters/second^2.

"But, but, muh multiply by 10's ..."

QED
Been here long enough to have seen the same tortured arguments that say more about the one making them than the system being discussed.
8/6/2017 10:42:59 PM EDT
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Meh, we already use both almost everywhere and most people manage to figure it out so really who cares at this point.

I will say that when I did laboratory work it sure is a lot easier working in SI than whatever fucktarded USC units exist. In machining it was easier using imperial measurement, point is you just adapt and deal with it. It's not going away any time soon.
8/6/2017 10:43:26 PM EDT
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I always find myself trying to convert metric units to our units for comparison.  I haven't yet gotten to the point that I intuitively know that 37 centimeters equals X inches.   I am guessing it is 11 inches or so....about a little more than a third of a meter....

My point is it would be nice if I automatically knew what the metric equivalent was without having to do all those mental gymnastics.
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Just learn what 37 centimeters is. Forget the conversions. Kind of like a foreign language. The sooner you can think some in it, the better you can communicate in it.
8/6/2017 10:43:29 PM EDT
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Y'all are so off base with this one.  Have you ever noticed those little green number signs on the interstate?  Every mile you'll see one.  Do you have any idea how much it would cost to replace those? Taking all the signs down, buying kilometer signs, which is what 3/5 of a mile? Your talking about 40% more signs or something. We just can't do it. The cost is impossible.
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So do it every 2 km! We'd save a fortune! If there's one thing that the US has always been worried about, it's a way to save money on a few road signs.
8/6/2017 10:45:51 PM EDT
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All I know is 33x12.50 makes INFINITELY more sense than 285/75.
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You do know tires are already sized in a mix of metric and sae right?  It makes much more sense than the old way of 50s, 60s, 70s series tires.
All I know is 33x12.50 makes INFINITELY more sense than 285/75.
On the surface but is 75% of 285 hard to understand?  It's how tall the sidewall is.  I do understand the frustration though.  
8/6/2017 10:46:18 PM EDT
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Metric is for countries that haven't been to the moon.
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funny that they used metric nuts and bolts to build the lunar lander.
8/6/2017 10:46:32 PM EDT
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Exactly.  A PSI is pretty easy to grasp, what the fuck is a pascal?
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