Warning

 

Close
Confirm Action

Are you sure you wish to do this?

Cancel Confirm
AR15.COM
11/18/2011 12:49:40 PM EDT
The reason the Broncos are now 5-5 is the Broncos defense. They have really stepped up these last 5 games. Granted the man is an awesome athlete and I respect his work ethic and determination. I think he would be an awesome tail back or tight end, not an NFL quarterback. Honestly some of those passes against the Jets were the worst I have ever seen  in the NFL. Does anyone else think he could be better utilised at a different position. BTW im a Raiders fan, so honestly I don't want him to be a good quarterback Bring back Orton!!
11/18/2011 1:14:49 PM EDT
[#1]
Compare the stats of TT against John Elway for their first 8 games in the NFL. It isn't even close. TT has much better stats.

Does that mean TT will be the next John Elway. Hell no. But all this hype about him is pretty funny. He has not brought it on himself, it is just something to talk about in the NFL that makes no difference. People seem to love him or hate him for no real reason.

Let the guy play and leave it at that.
11/18/2011 1:20:30 PM EDT
[#2]
It's because he's just a plain white guy and no bad attitude, open season.
11/18/2011 1:21:52 PM EDT
[#3]
Quoted:
Compare the stats of TT against John Elway for their first 8 games in the NFL. It isn't even close. TT has much better stats.


what do you think that means?
11/18/2011 1:24:49 PM EDT
[#4]
I think they should put Orton back in and use Tebow as a offensive weapon in running or as an option type player. I like TT for being a great football player and athlete but Orton is better at the QB position overall.
11/18/2011 1:24:51 PM EDT
[#5]
I am a die hard Bronco fan.

Yes, Elway sucked even harder in his first 8 starts.

However, Tebow will never be the same type of Quarterback.

Tebow's accuracy is close to 100% suck.

However again, I think he needs more time and experience.

@ this point, he looks like a rookie QB, or a rookie last year who had no offseason.

And I would personally prefer a team that is 60% run 40% pass shove the fucking ball down your mouth while our O-Lines beats the shit out of any and all comers,

over a pass pass pass Payton Manning offence

Should we establish that type of offence, tebow will be fine.

Give us 3-5 games where the game is a strait loss because of tebow, and then we can say he totally sucks and shouldn't be an NFL QB.

11/18/2011 1:25:00 PM EDT
[#6]
Quoted:
The reason the Broncos are now 5-5 is the Broncos defense. They have really stepped up these last 5 games. Granted the man is an awesome athlete and I respect his work ethic and determination. I think he would be an awesome tail back or tight end, not an NFL quarterback. Honestly some of those passes against the Jets were the worst I have ever seen  in the NFL. Does anyone else think he could be better utilised at a different position. BTW im a Raiders fan, so honestly I don't want him to be a good quarterback Bring back Orton!!


Sorry, but the offense has to put points up too. As a long time Bears fan, I can say with confidence, Orton never could do that.
11/18/2011 1:31:16 PM EDT
[#7]
Quoted:
Quoted:
The reason the Broncos are now 5-5 is the Broncos defense. They have really stepped up these last 5 games. Granted the man is an awesome athlete and I respect his work ethic and determination. I think he would be an awesome tail back or tight end, not an NFL quarterback. Honestly some of those passes against the Jets were the worst I have ever seen  in the NFL. Does anyone else think he could be better utilised at a different position. BTW im a Raiders fan, so honestly I don't want him to be a good quarterback Bring back Orton!!


Sorry, but the offense has to put points up too. As a long time Bears fan, I can say with confidence, Orton never could do that.


No doubt! What's this "bring back Orton" sh#t???

Do we have to compare Orton's and Tebow's records yet again???

BTW... I have to close my eyes every time Tim throws a pass. Some of his passes have been good, but most of them suck... I mean REALLY suck. But damnit... I'm gonna keep on rooting for him to get his passing squared away cause if he ever does, he's going to be DAMN good. Oh... and I too think that he'd probably make a better TE than a QB. But I like the kid... A LOT.

11/18/2011 1:35:34 PM EDT
[#8]
I love this place.

"Tim Tebow sucks. He isn't even a starter"

"Oh, he's going to start. Bah, he sucks."

"He's 4-1, what?"

"Must be the defence"  
11/18/2011 1:36:18 PM EDT
[#9]
Disclosure: I'm a Gator alum and Dolphins fan (I know)...

I would love to see Tebow make it as an NFL QB. If I had to bet, he won't have much success if he insists on remaining solely a QB - he has a really long way to go with the mental aspects, mainly progressions and pocket awareness (the alarm clock). I think if anyone can be a success as the anti-prototypical QB he can. I believe his best chance for success lies in playing as an every-down H-back type (think Dallas Clark in his early days) with some Wildcat/option thrown in. That would be a OC's worst nightmare - you couldn't possibly prepare adequately for eveything you might see on game day. And I would love to see it happen in Miami.
11/18/2011 1:37:36 PM EDT
[#10]
Quoted:
I am a die hard Bronco fan.

Yes, Elway sucked even harder in his first 8 starts.

However, Tebow will never be the same type of Quarterback.

Tebow's accuracy is close to 100% suck.

However again, I think he needs more time and experience.

@ this point, he looks like a rookie QB, or a rookie last year who had no offseason.

And I would personally prefer a team that is 60% run 40% pass shove the fucking ball down your mouth while our O-Lines beats the shit out of any and all comers,

over a pass pass pass Payton Manning offence

Should we establish that type of offence, tebow will be fine.

Give us 3-5 games where the game is a strait loss because of tebow, and then we can say he totally sucks and shouldn't be an NFL QB.



Dont fret , its coming.

It was the fucking Jets afterall. I dont think they could score with a $2 hooker
11/18/2011 1:43:02 PM EDT
[#11]
Quoted:
Quoted:
I am a die hard Bronco fan.

Yes, Elway sucked even harder in his first 8 starts.

However, Tebow will never be the same type of Quarterback.

Tebow's accuracy is close to 100% suck.

However again, I think he needs more time and experience.

@ this point, he looks like a rookie QB, or a rookie last year who had no offseason.

And I would personally prefer a team that is 60% run 40% pass shove the fucking ball down your mouth while our O-Lines beats the shit out of any and all comers,

over a pass pass pass Payton Manning offence

Should we establish that type of offence, tebow will be fine.

Give us 3-5 games where the game is a strait loss because of tebow, and then we can say he totally sucks and shouldn't be an NFL QB.



Dont fret , its coming.

It was the fucking Jets afterall. I dont think they could score with a $2 hooker


i dont really care for what you said, but fuck, that was funny
11/18/2011 1:44:35 PM EDT
[#12]
Quoted:
I think they should put Orton back in and use Tebow as a offensive weapon in running or as an option type player. I like TT for being a great football player and athlete but Orton is better at the QB position overall.


This
11/18/2011 1:46:54 PM EDT
[#13]





Quoted:





Quoted:


I am a die hard Bronco fan.





Yes, Elway sucked even harder in his first 8 starts.





However, Tebow will never be the same type of Quarterback.





Tebow's accuracy is close to 100% suck.





However again, I think he needs more time and experience.





@ this point, he looks like a rookie QB, or a rookie last year who had no offseason.





And I would personally prefer a team that is 60% run 40% pass shove the fucking ball down your mouth while our O-Lines beats the shit out of any and all comers,





over a pass pass pass Payton Manning offence





Should we establish that type of offence, tebow will be fine.





Give us 3-5 games where the game is a strait loss because of tebow, and then we can say he totally sucks and shouldn't be an NFL QB.











Dont fret , its coming.





It was the fucking Jets afterall. I dont think they could score with a $2 hooker
It's going to get ugly as fuck when the broncos get smashed by the Bears in a couple weeks.
 
11/18/2011 1:47:38 PM EDT
[#14]



Quoted:


I am a die hard Bronco fan.



Yes, Elway sucked even harder in his first 8 starts.



However, Tebow will never be the same type of Quarterback.



Tebow's accuracy is close to 100% suck.



However again, I think he needs more time and experience.



@ this point, he looks like a rookie QB, or a rookie last year who had no offseason.



And I would personally prefer a team that is 60% run 40% pass shove the fucking ball down your mouth while our O-Lines beats the shit out of any and all comers,



over a pass pass pass Payton Manning offence



Should we establish that type of offence, tebow will be fine.



Give us 3-5 games where the game is a strait loss because of tebow, and then we can say he totally sucks and shouldn't be an NFL QB.





People would say that about any quarterback if that was the case, regardless of who it is.





 
11/18/2011 1:51:10 PM EDT
[#15]
Quoted:
Disclosure: I'm a Gator alum and Dolphins fan (I know)


I feel your pain, Brother, Im in the same boat. :) Dan Marino was an amazing pocket passing QB. He couldn't run for shit. He could damn sure throw a ball though. Yet, Dan Marino never won a Super Bowl. It takes more than a good passing QB or a good running QB to win in the NFL on a consistent basis. Randall Cunningham was a great runner never won a SB. Michael Vick is a hell of a runner. They are trying to get him to be a pocket passer and its just not working. Tebow plays ball the way he always has. He is a gamer. Let the man play his game and see what comes of it. But wether they win or lose  all the credit or blame should not be placed on him alone. There are 53 guys on a team plus the coach and his staff and then the front office.
11/18/2011 1:56:09 PM EDT
[#16]
Quoted:
Quoted:
Disclosure: I'm a Gator alum and Dolphins fan (I know)


I feel your pain, Brother, Im in the same boat. :) Dan Marino was an amazing pocket passing QB. He couldn't run for shit. He could damn sure throw a ball though. Yet, Dan Marino never won a Super Bowl. It takes more than a good passing QB or a good running QB to win in the NFL on a consistent basis. Randall Cunningham was a great runner never won a SB. Michael Vick is a hell of a runner. They are trying to get him to be a pocket passer and its just not working. Tebow plays ball the way he always has. He is a gamer. Let the man play his game and see what comes of it. But wether they win or lose  all the credit or blame should not be placed on him alone. There are 53 guys on a team plus the coach and his staff and then the front office.


Coaches and QBs get too much praise and too much blame.
11/18/2011 6:31:37 PM EDT
[#17]
Quoted:
Quoted:
Compare the stats of TT against John Elway for their first 8 games in the NFL. It isn't even close. TT has much better stats.


what do you think that means?


It really means nothing. That was my point. TT is not the second coming for Denver, nor is he a horrible quarterback. Too early to tell.