[ARCHIVED THREAD] - The downside of Cain (Page 1 of 2)
Posted: 9/27/2011 9:30:54 AM EDT
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As good as he is the huge downside is that he will be seen as the "Me too" black guy in the race. Much as Micheal Steele was when he was selected to run the party.
It will be percieved (and portrayed) as a desperation play to pantomime Obama's success. |
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As good as he is the huge downside is that he will be seen as the "Me too" black guy in the race. Much as Micheal Steele was when he was selected to run the party. It will be percieved (and portrayed) as a desperation play to pantomime Obama's success. Not when enormous numbers of white rednecks support him. |
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As good as he is the huge downside is that he will be seen as the "Me too" black guy in the race. Much as Micheal Steele was when he was selected to run the party. It will be percieved (and portrayed) as a desperation play to pantomime Obama's success. Not when enormous numbers of white rednecks support him. 
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Quoted: Steele was an empty suit, I don't think that's a fair comparison. Steele was worse than an empty suit. Cain would absolutely destroy 0bama in a debate - much like he destroyed expert wordsmith Billy Clinton. While the media may portray it that way (I fully expect them to), Cain speaks in a way that is clear and straightforward; effectively the polar opposite of 0bama. Once people hear Cain speak on a national scale with more exposure, that kind of thinking (hey we have a Black guy too) will fade as he actually knows his stuff; unlike the boy-child in chief. |
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I strongly disagree. Someone else commented on Steels being an empty suit and I fully agree. He did nothing and from my point of view he had no real conservative support. Cain brings a lot to the table and is far from an empty suit.
Oh and I think his pizza is fucking awesome for what its worth |
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Steele was an empty suit, I don't think that's a fair comparison. Steele was worse than an empty suit. Cain would absolutely destroy 0bama in a debate - much like he destroyed expert wordsmith Billy Clinton. While the media may portray it that way (I fully expect them to), Cain speaks in a way that is clear and straightforward; effectively the polar opposite of 0bama. Once people hear Cain speak on a national scale with more exposure, that kind of thinking (hey we have a Black guy too) will fade as he actually knows his stuff; unlike the boy-child in chief. One thing I really like about Cain, is when he answers a question, its usually with a straight-forward "Yes, and here's why" or "No, and here's why not" format. The man is concise and not in love with his own voice. |
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I strongly disagree. Someone else commented on Steels being an empty suit and I fully agree. He did nothing and from my point of view he had no real conservative support. Cain brings a lot to the table and is far from an empty suit. Oh and I think his pizza is fucking awesome for what its worth Damnit Arfcom, now I have to go find a Godfathers Pizza near me so I can evaluate this important factor in choosing our next leader 
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That and bad pizza. Actually, mainly just bad pizza. I've never had Godfathers Pizza. I know my Dad used to rave about it back in the 80's though. At OSU, they ran an ad that said. Order this pizza, or we will sneak into your bathroom, and stretch saran-wrap over your toilet while you sleep!
Cain may be perceived as a Token, but he is a leader with experience, and that's something we've been lacking. TXL ETA, he has won my vote. |
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Cain is the shit. He is not a me too canidate. Mitt is a mee too guy. I get the impression that the only thing Mitt Romney feels strongly about is that Mitt Romney should be president., I'd vote for him over Obama, but I'd be a hold-my-nose vote like McCain was. I think everything else is basically negotiable with the guy. Perry seemed awesome at first, but damn if the "new guy" factor hasn't worn off him pretty quick. He might recover, and I think I can vote for him, but he's not one of my favorites. Bachman, Ron Paul, and Huntsman are non-starters for me. |
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Quoted: As good as he is the huge downside is that he will be seen as the "Me too" black guy in the race. Much as Micheal Steele was when he was selected to run the party. It will be percieved (and portrayed) as a desperation play to pantomime Obama's success. That would be the case if his views were like Michael Steele's. Michael Steele was a failure because he's a RINO, hell he spent a year trying to marginalize the Tea Party. He said he was going to bring hip-hop to the GOP. Cain is in the lead now because of his genuine views. |
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Quoted: Quoted: As good as he is the huge downside is that he will be seen as the "Me too" black guy in the race. Much as Micheal Steele was when he was selected to run the party. It will be percieved (and portrayed) as a desperation play to pantomime Obama's success. That would be the case if his views were like Michael Steele's. Michael Steele was a failure because he's a RINO, hell he spent a year trying to marginalize the Tea Party. He said he was going to bring hip-hop to the GOP. Cain is in the lead now because of his genuine views. bingo |
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I like how he sounds when he's fired up.
There is a legitimate honesty to his voice that is absolutely lacking from Obama,Perry,Romney and too many others. I don't think he's the smartest,best educated,most worldly etc etc etc but I'm tired of waiting for Superman to come save me. No,I want a President with enough brains and balls to turn some shit around and get this house back in order. Cain isn't the perfect candidate for me but he's looking pretty good. When it comes to foreign policy,I have my reservations as to his experience but after Obama,I want to see him look at Putin and Hu Jintao and give him the " you know I ain't even your bitch" glare that says "motherfucker,don't even think I'm gonna bow to you". |
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I strongly disagree. Someone else commented on Steels being an empty suit and I fully agree. He did nothing and from my point of view he had no real conservative support. Cain brings a lot to the table and is far from an empty suit. Oh and I think his pizza is fucking awesome for what its worth Damnit Arfcom, now I have to go find a Godfathers Pizza near me so I can evaluate this important factor in choosing our next leader I will go and make a fool of myself at one of the many local Godfathers Pizza restaurants in the metro area in your honor. |
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Quoted: As good as he is the huge downside is that he will be seen as the "Me too" black guy in the race. Much as Micheal Steele was when he was selected to run the party. It will be percieved (and portrayed) as a desperation play to pantomime Obama's success. Michael Steele WAS the me too black guy, and look how that panned out. Pandering is bullshit. If Cain is legit, he won't fail like Steele. |
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I want to see polling on independents on Cain as he gets more name recognition.
I don't think race will be an issue at all, I'm worried that his conservative social views will turn off voters, as Obama and the media will everything to frame the argument around that and away from the economy. |
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Quoted: Quoted: l want the opportunity to tell liberals they're racist for not voting for a true black man. Do not deny me this joy, please. THis is the problem. Raced based politics is the problem. Race based anything is a problem. Equality does not mean affirmative action. |
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Quoted: I want to see polling on independents on Cain as he gets more name recognition. I don't think race will be an issue at all, I'm worried that his conservative social views will turn off voters, as Obama and the media will everything to frame the argument around that and away from the economy. That's why we need someone the opposite of McCain. Someone who'll kick some ass instead of lying down and taking a kicking... then rolling over and telling the audience they'll be in good hands with oblama.  |
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Herman Cain does not appear to be a political puppet reading from a teleprompter.
He speaks with conviction and without hesitation. He looks, speaks and acts like a leader. None of the other candidates in the FL debate left me with that impression. I honestly think he has the ability to win this election. |
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Quoted: As good as he is the huge downside is that he will be seen as the "Me too" black guy in the race. Much as Micheal Steele was when he was selected to run the party. It will be percieved (and portrayed) as a desperation play to pantomime Obama's success. Not a chance. Steele *WAS* a "me too" black guy, nothing more, and a dismal failure in his role for the GOP. Cain stands on his own merit, and affirmative action Barry can't hold a candle to Cain. Only a fool or a lib would play such a foolish game. |
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Quoted: This should show that Herman Cain is not a me too candidate.  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HdLGKRBJ_0EExcellent Jeanine Garofalo was on MSNBC asserting that Hermain Cain was being paid by "someone" as a plant to show that the Tea Party and Repubs are not racist |
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As good as he is the huge downside is that he will be seen as the "Me too" black guy in the race. Much as Micheal Steele was when he was selected to run the party. It will be percieved (and portrayed) as a desperation play to pantomime Obama's success. These are a few reasons I'm not supporting him: http://lmgtfy.com/?q=herman+cain+flip+flop |
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Quoted: Quoted: This should show that Herman Cain is not a me too candidate. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HdLGKRBJ_0EExcellent Jeanine Garofalo was on MSNBC asserting that Hermain Cain was being paid by "someone" as a plant to show that the Tea Party and Repubs are not racist |