[ARCHIVED THREAD] - The idiocy of Army basic (Page 1 of 4)
Posted: 7/13/2015 10:57:50 PM EDT
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Basic or boot camp war stories are the worst, but I thought I would discuss a few things that are rarely mentioned
First, Drill Sergeants are dumb. They push idiotic shit in order to make themselves seem like Gods of the battlefield. I understand why they do this, but I never bought their shit. One Drill Sergeant was wounded in a combat action that is not verifiable, and most likely never happened. He also said quite proudly that, he received the Delta Force recruitment email. According to him, only the best 10% receive that email. Oh, and once you're in Delta, you're no longer recognized by the US government. Not sure how that would work, but OK. Another was telling old Iraq stories. He began alluding to the idea that they used brass knuckles in one firefight... I swear, he looked so relieved when another DS interrupted him and he didn't have to continue the BS. This guy was kind of a tard. At one point when he was passing out M68's (Aimpoints) he harshly corrected a private for calling it a "scope". He repeatedly said, "don't get it twisted!" Shortly after, he referred to an M68, as a scope. Another fantastic DS moment, is when a DS claimed that you have to zero a scope to the front sight, because that zeroes the scope to the gun. He was referring to ACOG's and other magnified scopes. No offense to current Drill Sergeants, but, come on guys. |
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Yeah yeah fuck you OP, some of us have been in reception since 16 June 2015 because we failed hearing and are awaiting news stating that we are cleared for BCT, at least you made it down there You have interent access in reception?? Shit has changed. I heard recruits at PI get to sleep with the windows closed and under the blankets during the winter now. |
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One of my Drill Sergeants was a quiet, genuine badasss Vietnam Combat vet who was on the Army Marksmanship Team and was only there for his stripe. He sang cadence running backwards for the whole run. Thank you Drill Sergeant Moore. The other was a weak pussy who fell out on the run. |
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Yeah yeah fuck you OP, some of us have been in reception since 16 June 2015 because we failed hearing and are awaiting news stating that we are cleared for BCT, at least you made it down there You have interent access in reception?? Shit has changed. I heard recruits at PI get to sleep with the windows closed and under the blankets during the winter now. Damn  I went through 11 years ago, hard to imagine being treated like a person there
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Our Drill Instructors were legit badasses. 2 of them had CAR's and one had a purple heart.
Unless it was relevent to training we didn't get war stories. We got most of it during the crucible, we also had our "warrior" talks after MCMAP in which we got stories of other Marines. |
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Quoted: You have interent access in reception?? Quoted: Quoted: Yeah yeah fuck you OP, some of us have been in reception since 16 June 2015 because we failed hearing and are awaiting news stating that we are cleared for BCT, at least you made it down there You have interent access in reception?? No shit, wtf? I only went in 2007, but I couldn't get a fucking phone call or read a book other than the warriors handbook in the two weeks I spent at 30th AG.  I thought the whole purpose of reception was to issue you some sweet go-fasters and get you sick as fuck so you were in tip-top condition for when you went downrange. My platoon drills were ok. One was a fat armor dude that had a wannabe hardass attitude named Rick Ross (lol), but despite his deceptively fat bady could run pretty fuckin fast. Another was a skinny quiet dude, not intimidating at all, but was a combatives beast and liked to actually teach us shit without getting angry. You could tell he was just there cause he had to be, and he wasn't trying to be a hardass. He'd smoke the shit out of our legs and our legs only though when we fucked up, and he'd smoke em for hours. Our senior drill was named Dave Chappelle (just like the comedian, except if you pronounced it that way, he'd fuck you up for it. It was pronounced Chapel goddammit), and he was kinda short-ish but built like a fucking tank, and was legitimately one of the most intimidating men I've ever encountered in my (then) 23 years of life. He didn't tell bullshit stories, he just corrected your ass on the spot, aggressively, and then got frustrated and showed you how to fuckin do it right. He was a damn champion in my book. He was on his last cycle, and I hoped I would end up where he was going, cause I'd have loved to served with him as my platoon sergeant. He was 27 or 28y/o E7, and told stories, but none seem far fetched or looking for glory. His class As were fucking STACKED, including a purple heart and a bronze star with V device, I believe. Mean but fair. He went OCS after our class, and when I was in airborne school, I used to see him running around doing PT with his OCS class on benning. Never saw him again after that. Bummer, I always wondered where he ended up. I always really thought that dude was the real deal. Not a braggart, just a hardass dude that genuinely wanted to produce decent, non-shitbag privates to send to units. All the other Drills in the company seemed like exaggerating clowns, though, except one dude named Tahbo. E7 I BELIEVE at the time. Looked him up right after I got out in 2012 on google, and saw an article where he had just picked up first sergeant at age 32. Stacked uniform, mean, huge, fast, and apparently on a decent little fast track. I remember him specifically, because as I moved through the chow line, we were allowed one cup of water and one cup of powerade. He saw me getting my drinks, and said "hey private, you want a coke?" I said "negative drill sergeant." He said "Bullshit. All fucking privates love coke!" I said "negative drill sergeant, not me!" He said "Private, you're gonna get a fucking coke, and you're going to fucking love it," and picked up my empty cup and filled it with coke. "fuck," I thought. As soon as I sat down, he came over and said "What the fucking fuck is this, private!? Is that a fucking coke?!" "Roger that, drill sergeant." "Did I say you could get a fucking coke?! Everybody dump your fucking tray and get outside in formation!" He followed us out and did the whole "half right, face!" thing and smoked us for like an hour and a half. Shit like that gets you promoted! |
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90% of the Drill Sgts DO NOT want to be there in the 1st place.
Not sure how it works in the other branches, but in the Army, you're eventually going to come down on orders for Drill or Recruiter, or eventually both. And most guys try to get out of it by any means they can. |
It's not fair to characterize them all as dumb. I was fortunate in that 3 of my 4 DIs at MCRD were infantry, so I didn't hear too much retarded shit from them. But some of the shit from our POG DI was ridiculous. Great, now I'm gonna start an argument about POG vs pogue. 
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Yeah yeah fuck you OP, some of us have been in reception since 16 June 2015 because we failed hearing and are awaiting news stating that we are cleared for BCT, at least you made it down there You have interent access in reception?? I get 4G LTE if I try hard enough |
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No shit, wtf? I only went in 2007, but I couldn't get a fucking phone call or read a book other than the warriors handbook in the two weeks I spent at 30th AG.
I thought the whole purpose of reception was to issue you some sweet go-fasters and get you sick as fuck so you were in tip-top condition for when you went downrange. Quoted:
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Yeah yeah fuck you OP, some of us have been in reception since 16 June 2015 because we failed hearing and are awaiting news stating that we are cleared for BCT, at least you made it down there You have interent access in reception?? No shit, wtf? I only went in 2007, but I couldn't get a fucking phone call or read a book other than the warriors handbook in the two weeks I spent at 30th AG.
I thought the whole purpose of reception was to issue you some sweet go-fasters and get you sick as fuck so you were in tip-top condition for when you went downrange. Pretty much. God I fucking hated 30th AG. |
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We had one true bad ass Vietnam vet almost 3 tours, got shot up too bad to complete the third.
Silver Star, and a whole bunch of other shit that at the time I had no idea what they were, I wish I had a picture of him in his dress uniform. But I was 4th platoon and he was third platoon. We had very few was stories because most were not Vietnam vets. So no war story to be had. |
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Yeah yeah fuck you OP, some of us have been in reception since 16 June 2015 because we failed hearing and are awaiting news stating that we are cleared for BCT, at least you made it down there You have interent access in reception?? I get 4G LTE if I try hard enough You get a PHONE 
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The privates were entertaining also. One tried to argue with me that we only wore the ACU's to "get used to wearing camo". On deployment we'd be wearing "urban camo" that is black, blue, and white.  We had a guy insist he was going "better then the 18x program " He finally fessed up that he got recruited straight from community college to Delta. |
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Yeah yeah fuck you OP, some of us have been in reception since 16 June 2015 because we failed hearing and are awaiting news stating that we are cleared for BCT, at least you made it down there You have interent access in reception?? When I was in reception, we wrote these things called letters. We had to use handwriting and then put them in a folded piece of paper called an envelope. And we had to lick them. |
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Quoted: Just because you had blow-hard wannabe drill sergeants doesn't mean they're all like that. Mine were serious knock-down drag-out badass warriors. I know because they said so. This OP, obviously your time in basic had the DI up your ass with a microscope. I never said more than two words to my CC, which was, Yes sir... |
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90% of the Drill Sgts DO NOT want to be there in the 1st place. Not sure how it works in the other branches, but in the Army, you're eventually going to come down on orders for Drill or Recruiter, or eventually both. And most guys try to get out of it by any means they can. Yep. |
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Not Army, Marine Corps
Back in my day, the Drill Instructors played "yack and smack". All three were Vietnam vets with Purple Hearts. They referred to them as VC Sharp Shooting Medals and they were a sign they failed at their mission. The Senior Drill Instructor was real level headed, one was a brand new Drill Instructor, the third was one mean, twisted, sadistic bastard who never left us from the time he picked us at receiving up to when we were dismissed after graduation. |
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This OP, obviously your time in basic had the DI up your ass with a microscope. I never said more than two words to my CC, which was, Yes sir... Quoted:
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Just because you had blow-hard wannabe drill sergeants doesn't mean they're all like that. Mine were serious knock-down drag-out badass warriors. I know because they said so. 
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We had a guy insist he was going "better then the 18x program " He finally fessed up that he got recruited straight from community college to Delta. Quoted:
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The privates were entertaining also. One tried to argue with me that we only wore the ACU's to "get used to wearing camo". On deployment we'd be wearing "urban camo" that is black, blue, and white. We had a guy insist he was going "better then the 18x program " He finally fessed up that he got recruited straight from community college to Delta. Seems legit. |
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The DS's I had when I went through Basic at Knox in '06 were bad asses. The two main ones were both 11B Paratroopers(82nd), had bronze stars CAB's and CIB's along with various other awards, one also had purple heart(apparently from hand to hand combat with an Iraqi). The other two that were with us during BCT were Reservist. The first one we had was a pretty hardcore. The other one that we had from about half way through was a pussy. A few of the other DS in the other platoons were pretty hardcore as well. Most of them already had one or two deployments before they got DS duty. Looking back now some of the stories they told they might have stretched the truth. |
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Damn... I don't know which would be worse. Don't suppose you can just skip that shit and stay FMF, huh? Quoted:
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The Marine Corps lets you choose your B-Billet, Recruiter, DI, or MSG (Embassy duty) Damn... I don't know which would be worse. Don't suppose you can just skip that shit and stay FMF, huh? MSG is by far the better choice, I remember being told that being a recruiter was the most stressful of the bunch. No idea if there's any truth to that. |
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90% of the Drill Sgts DO NOT want to be there in the 1st place. Not sure how it works in the other branches, but in the Army, you're eventually going to come down on orders for Drill or Recruiter, or eventually both. And most guys try to get out of it by any means they can. Especially the one's working the reception station, 30AG at Benning. I heard they're the fuck ups of the fuck ups. Can anyone confirm? |
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They talked to you about their lives? Right. I had 2 and all they talked about was PT and soldiering. The both could do anything asked of us and were both knowledgeable about tank gunnery and related weapons and PMCS. This was true of the 12 other DIs in the company. Not sure what goes on now but 35 yrs ago they were very proffesional. |
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90% of the Drill Sgts DO NOT want to be there in the 1st place. Not sure how it works in the other branches, but in the Army, you're eventually going to come down on orders for Drill or Recruiter, or eventually both. And most guys try to get out of it by any means they can. That's crazy to me, in the CG it was a highly competitive gig to get in to. They asked for volunteer's and had a big selection process, then they got to go to boot camp part two to get trained to be assholes. |
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My platoon senior drill sgt was solid.
We did get some new DS about half way thru. He apparently went to drill sgt school soon after he got there. That dude was always telling us stories about going to delta selection and being a "scout sniper" in the 3rd ID and going on these crazy sniper missions. Our senior drill sgt spent most of his career in 3rd ID. On one of our last days there he was giving us a bit of a heart to heart about how to succeed in the Army. At the end he goes, "men I spent 10 years in the 3rd ID. We didn't have any scout snipers. You can take whatever you want from that." Lol
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