Posted: 9/21/2009 3:08:28 PM EDT
|
Nothing new - just the same old shit:
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/32948222/ns/us_news-security/ DENVER - A Denver man and a New York City imam were under arrest Monday after court hearings on allegations they lied to officials investigating a terrorism plot. In Denver, a federal judge ordered that an Afghanistan-born man who allegedly received al-Qaida training and had bomb-making instructions on his computer be held pending a detention hearing Thursday. WTF - What happened to freedom in this country? So what if I have that info on my PC - or detailed drawings on making a DIAS. That is not a crime - making them is, but not having the info Investigators allege that Najibullah Zazi, a 24-year-old airport shuttle driver, played a direct role in an alleged terror plot that unraveled during a trip to New York City around the anniversary of the Sept. 11 attacks. He has been charged with lying to the government in a matter involving terrorism. Here we go - lying to the .gov is a crime but them lying to you is all according to Hoyle. Zazi's father also appeared in court Monday and was expected to be released within 48 hours. An associate, Ahmad Wais Afzali, appeared in federal court in Brooklyn on Monday and was being held without bond. Afzali smiled and waved at relatives as deputy marshals led him out of federal court. WTF - he wasn't even charged, but held without bond 
His attorney, Ron Kuby, said he’ll seek bail for the 37-year-old Afzali on Thursday. Afzali, an imam at a mosque in Queens, is a former NYPD informant who was accused of lying to authorities about tipping off Najibullah Zazi about a terrorism investigation. Investigators said they found notes on bomb-making instructions that appear to match Zazi's handwriting, and discovered his fingerprints on materials — batteries and a scale — that could be used to make explosives. Like batteries for an Aimpont and a reloading scale. Seriously. And the notes BFD - what does that show? Publicly, law enforcement officials have repeatedly said they are unaware of a specific time or target for any possible attacks. Privately, officials speaking on condition of anonymity because they weren't authorized to discuss the case said investigators have worried most about the possible use of backpack bombs on New York City mass transit trains, similar to attacks carried out in London and Madrid. Probably because there weren't targets. Backpacks and cell phones were taken from apartments in the Queens raids last week. Backpacks and cell phones - ok - who doesn't have either of these items - raise your hand  Seriously - it could be you.
A joint FBI-New York Police Department task force feared Zazi may have been involved in a potential plot involving hydrogen peroxide-based explosives like those cited in an intelligence warning issued last week, according to two law enforcement officials, who spoke on condition of anonymity because they were not authorized to speak about the investigation. Now it's fucking hydrogen peroxide - I have 2 bottles in the bathroom. How many you got? On Friday, federal officials reminded law enforcement across the country that rail and transit systems can be vulnerable to terrorist attacks. Yeah - now that's fucking news
Sept. 21: Three men are due to make initial court appearances on Monday. NBC’s Pete Williams reports. In a joint assessment, the FBI and Homeland Security Department warned that improvised explosive devices are the most common tactic to blow up mass transit and rail systems overseas. And they noted incidents where homemade bombs made with various types of peroxide. Yeah and since you can get it at Rite-Aid, we are all fucked. But since it has been on the shelves for 40 years that I know of, it's NOT NEWS. In the assessment, obtained by The Associated Press, officials recommended that transit system security officials conduct random sweeps at terminals and stations and that law enforcement make random patrols and board some trains and buses. 4th Amendment - wave goodbye to it Zazi and his 53-year-old father, Mohammed Wali Zazi, were arrested Saturday in Denver. If convicted, the three men could face eight years in prison. 8 years for information on bombs cell phones and backacks - no one is safe from arrest if this is all it takes. The younger Zazi has publicly denied being involved in a terror plot. His attorney, Arthur Folsom, dismissed as "rumor" any notion that his client played a crucial role. Buying cell phones, backpacks or getting the hydrogen peroxide? Which part was crucial Mohammed Zazi and Afzali are accused of lying to FBI agents about calls between Denver and New York. An affidavit accuses Afzali of lying about a call in which he told Najibullah Zazi that he had spoken with authorities. So what - if they called me to inform on you, I'd like to think I'd give you a heads up. The FBI said it recorded a conversation between Mohammed Zazi and Afzali. Note they didn't have a single target, time or real plans to do anything. Carl Tobias, a University of Richmond law professor who tracks such investigations, said authorities could have made the arrests because they feared too much information was getting to the suspects. Additional charges could be filed later, he said. Meaning the FBI wasn't getting any useful information. Kuby, Afzali's attorney, has said the government may have been forced to act after Najibullah Zazi went to New York. Zazi has said he drove there in September to resolve issues with a coffee cart he owns in Manhattan. Sounds like a real big terrorist Kuby said Monday that his client had fully cooperated with the FBI, and was aware all along that his phone calls were being monitored. "Why in the world is he going to lie about the content of a conversation that he knew was being taped?" Kuby said outside the Brooklyn courthouse where Afzali was to appear later in the day. He accused authorities of trying to make Afzali a scapegoat for a botched investigation. Now why just that sound just so true? "The government wants somebody to blame for the fact that they haven't caught any terrorists," he said. One thing's for sure - these guys weren't terrorists. No bombs, no bomb-making ingredients, nothing but a hot dog cart, some cell phones backpacks, batteries and likely some lame shit on bombs downloaded from the web. An arrest warrant affidavit alleges Zazi admitted to FBI agents that he received instruction from al-Qaida operatives on subjects such as weapons and explosives. It also says he received the training in the federally administered tribal areas of Pakistan. The FBI said he said - yeah, sure. Isn't this the guy they said was a liar?
The FBI said it found images of handwritten notes on a laptop containing formulas and instructions for making a bomb, detonators and a fuse. Zazi told the FBI that he must have unintentionally downloaded the notes as part of a religious book and that he deleted the book "after realizing that its contents discussed jihad." WTF is a detonator anyway - they never really say - could be a fucking hammer. Fuse - Holy Hell - you can but that shit by the cubic ton on the web. An affidavit says the handwriting on the notes appeared to be Zazi's. It also says they were e-mailed in December as an attachment between accounts believed to be owned by Zazi, including an account that originated in Pakistan. FBI agents say Najibullah Zazi traveled to Pakistan twice this year. Zazi says he was visiting his wife, who lives in the Peshawar region. So what Zazi was born in Afghanistan, moved to Pakistan at age 7 and emigrated to the United States in 1999. He returned to Pakistan in 2007 and 2008 to visit his wife, according to Folsom. So what - again Bush, Obama, whomever - this country is not so slowly moving towards fascism. The worst part is we - the people - are going along cheerfully expecting this thwarts terrorism. The only thing it does is strengthen fascists. This government is out of control and don't think for a minute you'll be exempt I'm sure you all heard about the guy with no legs that was tazed. Gimmie a fuckin break. The police (some now mind you) have gone bat-shit crazy with power. |
|
Do you work in media?
If not, we need more like you to *make sense* of this tripe and refute...refute!!! 
eta: Folks really don't understand that this slippery slope is so damnable dangerous to the *average* person in America. I just hope we are getting closer to drawing the line________________ |
|
No but they are of no help. Stirring up fear is what sells. People don't realize that if they can grab these clowns they can grab you and I.
How many times has a "arsenal" or "cache of weapons" turned iut to be 4 weapons and 1K of ammo. I'm seeing it clearly: the fascists are growing daily with public approval. This is a dangerous thng; more than you could know. 
|