[ARCHIVED THREAD] - Traffic cops... (Page 1 of 4)
Posted: 3/3/2005 11:21:16 AM EDT
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Word to the wise.... DON'T fucking jump out from behind a bush in front of me with your hand out when I'm doing almost fifty fucking miles an hour. If I miss the brake your ass is going to be flat. Why are traffic cops such assholes? Before the blue wall comes up, the asshole who ticketed me today is famous among local cops for being an asshat. He writes 1,200 tickets a month on the average. I don't hate all cops. I do, however, hate traffic cops. <We don't have the F-word in thread titles--in any form.> --tbk1> |
He wasn't in a car? Sounds like he wanted to play chicken. Next time hit the horn instead of the brake. <--low tolerance for stupidness. |
No, he was hiding in a bush with his handheld radar gun. |
Next time blow the horn and swerve around him, shouting out the window as you go past. If someone 'jumps out of a bush' at me as I drive down the road, I don't care what uniform you're wearing (short of catholic schoolgirl...), I'm not stopping. Would a reasonable and prudent person not choose to flee from a man who hides behind a bush and jumps in front of cars? |
So you pull out in front of people, accelerate to 12 over the limit--and get a ticket for speeding. And you're gonna go to court over it. I bet once you've thought about this you will see it a bit differently. Is there something I'm missing?? Most cops give ten over. Above that and it's at ticket. <shrug> |
I'm about sick of that shit. There's a motorcycle cop in my home town that does it too... Did these dumb fucks sleep through the part about STOPPING DISTANCE in traffic school? Besides, in my home town they wear blue with no badge visible - so what you see is a man dressed in dark clothing jumping out pointing a pistol-shaped object at you. COPS would shoot a motherfucker for that, and call it justified. |
If he was playing chicken he'd have used his sidearm rather than the RADAR gun. The typical "OMG He's coming right for us!! BLAM! BLAM! BLAM!" thru the side or back window & the bluewall crowd would be defending QuietShootr's summary execution because he was trying to use his car as a weapon. |
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How in the hell does somebody write "1,200" skids a month? i do a lot a traffic but damn, 1 or 2 (good) tickets a shift is it for me. I do a lot of stops mind you, 8 out a 10 get warnings. Eitherway, that dude will be having to make court appearances well into his 10th year AFTER retiring. |
I kid you not. I called a friend in an adjoining jurisdiction right after I pulled away and he immediately gave me the guy's name before I even read it to him off the ticket. He's world-famous in the area, apparently. He wrote a cop's wife and told her, "now you can tell your husband you got a ticket." |
Don't mess up my image of a fine song by mixing it with traffic cops. I honestly don't mind being stopped by real cops...I usually deserve it. |
I don't think this guy was a dog shooter. That would cut into his ticket-writing time. He had a book of tickets pre-filled out so all he had to add was my license info and a speed number. He was in a big hurry to move on to his next victim. |
The starkville, MS cops fill that part out in advance, too. Most of them say '48 in a 35'. They pace you. 
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I’m confused. You were speeding, you got a ticket, and its not the best thing to happen this week. Ok, I’m with you so far. You think the officer was not safe the way he did it. I’m still with you. But he’s an asshole. Ok, how? Did he curse you; make fun of your dog/car? What? Now granted, its been a while since I’ve worked traffic, but I generally see most people who are pissed about an officer giving them a ticket are pissed because they GOT a ticket.  Just from past experience, I always had people try to make up excuses, argue, or basically want to have court on the side of the road. I politely tell them their options and walk away.And I know the usual comments, revenue generator, quota, etc. I always just wanted to prevent traffic accidents. Ever have to go to an autopsy of a child? If I’m wrong, tell me how please. Art in KY |
Speed doesn't kill. Sudden impacts, like those with Darwin award winning traffic cops who jump out in traffic, are the cause of trauma. Enforcing the law is one thing but putting others in jeopardy by careless enforcement is absurd. Shoot the RADAR, note the licese plate and work from there. The laws of the state NEVER trump the laws of physics. Nice diversion to use the autopsy of a child. But in most cases, that child is the responsibility of the PARENT who didn't properly restrain the kid. |
A guy who writes 1200 tickets a month is not interested in preventing accidents, he's interested in generating revenue. Yes, I'm pissed I got a ticket, and Yes, I was speeding, but do you not think getting the fuck out of the way of oncoming traffic is reasonable or not? I did not argue or have any interaction with him at all, he was in too big a hurry to stick the state's dick in the next victim. |
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I still agree with you about the safety factor. But that makes him an asshole? Because he writes the world record of tickets per month? That maybe his thing. Oh, and yes speed does kill. Proper restraints just help lower the numbers. A combination of safe driving habits in combination of proper restraints is the best way to go. Art in KY |
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Jack took a long look at his speedometer before slowing down: 73 in a 55 zone. Fourth time in as many months. How could a guy get caught so often? When his car had slowed to 10 miles an hour, Jack pulled over, but only partially. Let the cop worry about the potential traffic hazard. Maybe some other car will tweak his backside with a mirror. The cop was stepping out of his car, the big pad in hand. Bob? Bob from Church? Jack sunk farther into his trench coat. This was worse than the coming ticket. A cop catching a guy from his own church A guy who happened to be a little eager to get home after a long day at the office. A guy he was about to play golf with tomorrow. Jumping out of the car, he approached a man he saw every Sunday, a man he'd never seen in uniform. "Hi, Bob. Fancy meeting you like this." "Hello, Jack." No smile. "Guess you caught me red-handed in a rush to see my wife and kids." "Yeah, I guess." Bob seemed uncertain. Good. "I've seen some long days at the office lately. I'm afraid I bent the rules a bit -just this once." Jack toed at a pebble on the pavement. "Diane said something about roast beef and potatoes tonight. Know what I mean?" "I know what you mean. I also know that you have a reputation in our precinct ." Ouch. This was not going in the right direction. Time to change tactics. "What'd you clock me at?" "Seventy. Would you sit back in your car please?" "Now wait a minute here, Bob. I checked as soon as saw you. I was barely nudging 65." The lie seemed to come easier with every ticket "Please, Jack, in the car." Flustered, Jack hunched himself through the still-open door. Slamming it shut, he stared at the dashboard. He was in no rush to open the window. The minutes ticked by. Bob scribbled away on the pad. Why hadn't he asked for a driver's license? Whatever the reason, it would be a month of Sundays before Jack ever sat near this cop again. A tap on the door jerked his head to the left There was Bob, a folded paper in hand Jack rolled down the window a mere two inches, just enough room for Bob to pass him the slip. "Thanks." Jack could not quite keep the sneer out of his voice. Bob returned to his police car without a word. Jack watched his retreat in the mirror. Jack unfolded the sheet of paper. How much was this one going to cost? Wait a minute. What was this? Some kind of joke? Certainly not a ticket. Jack began to read: "Dear Jack, Once upon a time I had a daughter. She was six when killed by a car. You guessed it- a speeding driver. A fine and three months in jail, and the man was free. Free to hug his daughters, all three of them. I only had one, and I'm going to have to wait until Heaven before I can ever hug her again. A thousand times I've tried to forgive that man. A thousand times I thought I had. Maybe I did, but I need to do it again. Even now. Pray for me. And be careful, Jack, my son is all I have left." "Bob" Jack turned around in time to see Bob's car pull away and head down the road. Jack watched until it disappeared. A full 15 minutes later, he too, pulled away and drove slowly home, praying for forgiveness and hugging a surprised wife and kids when he arrived. |
Yeah, its real safe trying to merge back onto a 70+ mph interstate from a complete stop after having been pulled over
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What cop magazine or website did that come from? Boo hoo. If someone does something stupid and hits you, you're just as dead if they're going 55 than if they're going 61.
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Speed doesn't kill. that is a lame concept from the advent of the steam locomotive. People back then thought traveling faster than 5 MPH was unhealthy... I speed kills, whay are the open Interstate highways safer per person mile with their 70 MPH speed limits than a metropolitan street? And where do most collisions happen? Highway or street? Disregarding highway speed limits, why have speed limits remained low even though technology in cars has improved greatly in the past 30 years? I learned to drive in a car with no power brakes or steering and 4 wheel DRUM BRAKES shod with bias ply tires. I think it took 250 feet to stop from 60 MPH. My current car will stop in under 160 feet with 4 wheel antilock disc brakes. The speed rated radial tires also offer better grip. Speed may be a factor in some accidents but its only a contributing cause. The real cause is LACK OF CONTROL. |
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Speed doesn't kill. that is a lame concept from the advent of the steam locomotive. People back then thought traveling faster than 5 MPH was unhealthy... I speed kills, whay are the open Interstate highways safer per person mile with their 70 MPH speed limits than a metropolitan street? And where do most collisions happen? Highway or street? Disregarding highway speed limits, why have speed limits remained low even though technology in cars has improved greatly in the past 30 years? I learned to drive in a car with no power brakes or steering and 4 wheel DRUM BRAKES shod with bias ply tires. I think it took 250 feet to stop from 60 MPH. My current car will stop in under 160 feet with 4 wheel antilock disc brakes. The speed rated radial tires also offer better grip. Speed may be a factor in some accidents but its only a contributing cause. The real cause is LACK OF CONTROL. |
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No question about it, there are a lot of REALLY stupid road designs out there AND traffic engineers who believe in slowing traffic down, instead of facilitating the safe passthrough of the traffic stream. Ever sat at a red light while the lanes on green were completely empty - no drivers passing through the light, and the red you are sitting at cycles at least once? Ever noticed that people run red lights and stop or fail to go at green ones, or even saunter through it it like it will be green all damn day? WTF is the reason for that? I loathe city traffic. Nothing but stupidity compounding stupidity, wrapped in a blanket of stupidity, with a creamy stupid center. |
Fuck it, better yet why not just give the cops your Visa number so whenever they decide to they can whack you for a hundred fifty bucks and save the trouble of even talking to you. It's for officer safety, you know. |
So what how should a driver be punished for breaking the law? impound your car? suspend your license? jail time? |
No, red light runners are a direct cause of IMPACTS and the IMPACT is what kills. We need better traffic signals. Intelligent signals and drivers who obey them. I was nearly killed by a red light runner. I was going about 5 MPH. He cannot do it again. |
Hey, that's not a bad idea. All cars could have those transponders (like Sunpass) and if your clocked going X over the speed limit it deducts it from your balance. Anyone that has any moving violations on their record would be required to maintain a certain balance on it as a condition of continuing their driving privilege. That way we don't have to worry about Barney Fife getting run over by Otis the Drunk
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Nope but this is similar to the display of stupidness I saw here. KC police and HP were running a massive speed trap on the interstate. Instead of simply pulling people over they were stepping out into the FUCKING INTERSTATE to flag people over causing a traffic jam of nightmare like proportions behind this circus. Behind this several accidents occurred do to the fact the backup extended into normally clear highway that was 65mph with normal traffic moving at 70. Going from 70 to zero was causing lots of hard stopping. There were a couple of nasty collisions and thousands of dollars of property damage caused by this stupidity. I don't really care about ticket writing. I usually spot 'em time to slow down on an open road, or I'm not going fast enough to worry in traffic. However this was moronic and most everyone coming in to work that day was pissed, and I mean pissed. I assume they got hit with enough complaints cause I have never seen them pull that again. I think the step-into-traffic stuff is dangerous. I've seen some near misses on the road leading out of work when they pull that there. Write the ticket fine, just don't force a whole lane to come to a stop in an unexpected location to write a citation. |
Better yet, we could just abolish private property and then the state could take whatever it wants 
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So he wasn't bitching about the ticket. Just the manner in which he was pulled over. I thought this was another ".gov just wants money again" thread |
He mentioned that the idiot jumped out from behind a bush at night!! Did you miss that? And all your tugging at heartstrings aside, it is nothing but revenue collection, period. Go check the stats. Most accidents, especially fatal ones, occur on surface road, but the vast majority of tickets are written for speeding on limited access roads. Most accidents are not caused by speeding, they are caused by failure to yield while making a turn, following too close, unsafe passing (on a 2 lane road), or being distracted. |
| You sure about the 1200 per month. If he works five days per week, that would mean that he would work about 20 shifts per month. That equals 60 tickets per shift. In an eight hour shift he would have to write a ticket every eight minutes. That is alot of paperwork, especially if he tests the radar for accuracy after every speeding ticket, and is required to document the test. Maybe he writes alot of parking tickets, or something. |
OK, so maybe 'original' is one of the cards you weren't dealt.