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8/15/2012 7:19:12 PM EDT
Last transferrable SAW I saw for sale was going for like $186k, and that was like 2 or 3 years ago. I can't imagine it's gotten any cheaper. LOL.

Does anyone know how many transferable SAWs are in the registry?
8/15/2012 7:22:09 PM EDT
[#1]
I'd like to know.

My buddies is a DS, and I don't remember the exact figure, but it was waayyyyyy up there.
8/15/2012 7:35:45 PM EDT
[#2]
I thought I had read that there was only 2 Pre 86 M249's in the registry.
8/15/2012 7:37:39 PM EDT
[#3]
Quoted:
I thought I had read that there was only 2 Pre 86 M249's in the registry.


If that. Dan Shay says he knows of one. He is almost god like in the MG world. Last retail on it I saw was north of half a million.
8/15/2012 7:39:01 PM EDT
[#4]
Doesn't Joe Perry own one of them?
8/15/2012 7:40:55 PM EDT
[#5]
i heard there were 8 mini guns.

some mark iv belted grenade launchers

there's some rare and expensive toys out there. thats for sure.
8/15/2012 7:43:21 PM EDT
[#6]
Quoted:
I thought I had read that there was only 2 Pre 86 M249's in the registry.


I think I read that also when a friend was bugging me about me having or at least wanting one [No, I don't have one.  And no, I can't afford one IF I was looking for one].  I think I also read that there are more Minimi's dressed up to be M249's than true M249's.

James
8/15/2012 7:47:58 PM EDT
[#7]



Quoted:


Last transferrable SAW I saw for sale was going for like $186k, and that was like 2 or 3 years ago. I can't imagine it's gotten any cheaper. LOL.



Does anyone know how many transferable SAWs are in the registry?


Thousands. Saw it on O'Reilly's show. They're cheap too.



Get the one with the bazooka attached.



 
8/15/2012 7:53:22 PM EDT
[#8]
Who would want a $180,000+ transferable weapon that goes "click" every time you pull the fucking trigger??



8/15/2012 7:54:38 PM EDT
[#9]
I saw a few at Knob Creek last year.  What really caught my eye was when I found this gem


8/15/2012 7:55:32 PM EDT
[#10]
Quoted:

Quoted:
Last transferrable SAW I saw for sale was going for like $186k, and that was like 2 or 3 years ago. I can't imagine it's gotten any cheaper. LOL.

Does anyone know how many transferable SAWs are in the registry?

Thousands. Saw it on O'Reilly's show. They're cheap too.

Get the one with the bazooka attached.
 


I think you can buy one in the parking lot at the gunshow and convert it. Ted Nugent knows how.

8/15/2012 7:55:57 PM EDT
[#11]
Quoted:
Quoted:
I thought I had read that there was only 2 Pre 86 M249's in the registry.


I think I read that also when a friend was bugging me about me having or at least wanting one [No, I don't have one.  And no, I can't afford one IF I was looking for one].  I think I also read that there are more Minimi's dressed up to be M249's than true M249's.

James


There are quite a few(40) pre-dealer samples. But there is only one or maybe two transferables. I'm going with one. That goes for 249 or minimi's.
8/15/2012 7:56:10 PM EDT
[#12]
Quoted:
I saw a few at Knob Creek last year.  What really caught my eye was when I found this gem


http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f59/kungfoohustle/IMG_4202.jpg


Hell yeah, just put it on my MasterCard
8/15/2012 7:56:51 PM EDT
[#13]
Quoted:
Who would want a $180,000+ transferable weapon that goes "click" every time you pull the fucking trigger??





Yeah, my machine gun would be writing checks my ammo fort couldn't cash..
8/15/2012 7:58:41 PM EDT
[#14]
Quoted:
Quoted:
Who would want a $180,000+ transferable weapon that goes "click" every time you pull the fucking trigger??





Yeah, my machine gun would be writing checks my ammo fort couldn't cash..


That is the conclusion I came up with.  Purchasing the weapon would not necessarily be the bad part, it would be the purchasing of sufficient ammo to feed the beast
8/15/2012 8:00:17 PM EDT
[#15]
It was 5 or 6 years ago I saw one for sale in Shotgun News.  I thought it was about a quarter million.  Nevada, I believe.
8/15/2012 8:01:59 PM EDT
[#16]
Quoted:
i heard there were 8 mini guns.

some mark iv belted grenade launchers

there's some rare and expensive toys out there. thats for sure.

It gives me wood thinking about it.  There was supposedly a transferable Minigun in tulsa at one time, but
ve never seen it.

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8/15/2012 8:08:01 PM EDT
[#17]
I think I heard 4 last time this came up, but not 100%.
8/15/2012 8:26:11 PM EDT
[#18]
At least 3 that I know of. Kent Lomont had two of them at one time 15 or so years ago.
8/15/2012 8:28:09 PM EDT
[#19]
What do you think the first guy(s) paid when they got it from the dealer and put it in the registry?
 
8/15/2012 8:32:54 PM EDT
[#20]
Don't know about saws but I am pretty sure the mini gun number I have seen floated was in the low 20s. I want one with my powerball ticket.

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8/15/2012 9:05:14 PM EDT
[#21]



Quoted:



Quoted:




Quoted:

Last transferrable SAW I saw for sale was going for like $186k, and that was like 2 or 3 years ago. I can't imagine it's gotten any cheaper. LOL.



Does anyone know how many transferable SAWs are in the registry?


Thousands. Saw it on O'Reilly's show. They're cheap too.



Get the one with the bazooka attached.

 




I think you can buy one in the parking lot at the gunshow and convert it. Ted Nugent knows how.





The Nuge has probably acquired such a heavy Secret Service presence in his day to day life that he can't swap calibers on a T/C contender without a cavity search and a background check.



 
8/15/2012 9:15:05 PM EDT
[#22]
Fucking bullshit '86 ban.  Friend of mine has a post dealer sample.  Cost him about $5k.  Super fun gun to play with, and I can see how super effective it could be for fire support.  

If we were free, we would be issued them for national militia defense.  

8/15/2012 9:17:16 PM EDT
[#23]
If I wanted a belt fed legal class 3, I'd go MG3 or go home.
 
8/15/2012 9:27:43 PM EDT
[#24]
Quoted:
It was 5 or 6 years ago I saw one for sale in Shotgun News.  I thought it was about a quarter million.  Nevada, I believe.


I've bought a SGN exactly once, in 2005 or 2006, during the summer, there was an M249 on the cover for either $175k or $250k...
8/15/2012 9:38:23 PM EDT
[#25]
I bet those transferable SAWs are having a miserable life..They're in probably some questionably rich old man's mansion as safe or display queens....never to be shot for fear of blowing up and such...

Must be sad
8/15/2012 9:48:45 PM EDT
[#26]
Posts from Dan Shea who owned and sold the one pedigreed FNMI manufactured transferable M249

http://www.subguns.com/boards/mgmsgarchive.cgi?read=513143

http://www.subguns.com/boards/mgmsgarchive.cgi?read=513292

http://www.subguns.com/boards/mgmsgarchive.cgi?read=499058

Enjoy
8/15/2012 10:17:45 PM EDT
[#27]
Quoted:
Who would want a $180,000+ transferable weapon that goes "click" every time you pull the fucking trigger??





Someone did not know how to 20 level their 249?  When I got mine, I took the fucker apart and learned everything I could about it.  They are so simple compared to a 50, there  is no excuse for this happening.  249s will never go "click" either; open bolt guns do not "click" on a misfire or stoppage.  If properly maintained the 249 is very reliable.  They do tend to shit where they sleep and you will get no less than 2 different metals + a ton of residue in them.  Most failures in my experience were with the belted ammo being dislodged from its place, the crappy 200 round plastic boxes actually being used (do not use these, use the nutsacks), or in the rare event of people "prepping" their guns for dusty dry conditions and encountering a flash rain where the main spring and piston action rust together.   If you are a 249 gunner and do not have the 249 tool: you are wrong.    Unless you do not plan of firing it or you really do not understand a buffed out layer of CLP, over lubrication will not affect cleaning at all.

Fun fact: once after a mission I got asked by a young 2LT at the clearing barrel why I did not have a round chambered :P
8/15/2012 10:18:39 PM EDT
[#28]
Quoted:
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I saw a few at Knob Creek last year.  What really caught my eye was when I found this gem


http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f59/kungfoohustle/IMG_4202.jpg


Hell yeah, just put it on my MasterCard


I thought they cost more.... now I might buy one.
8/15/2012 10:21:50 PM EDT
[#29]
Quoted:
I saw a few at Knob Creek last year.  What really caught my eye was when I found this gem


http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f59/kungfoohustle/IMG_4202.jpg


Does that say "mint condition" while there is rust on the parts under the barrel?
8/16/2012 1:34:03 AM EDT
[#30]
I know of a stripped receiver for a Minimi I believe for $16K, I don't think it was an M249.

8/16/2012 1:36:55 AM EDT
[#31]
Quoted:
I saw a few at Knob Creek last year.  What really caught my eye was when I found this gem


http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f59/kungfoohustle/IMG_4202.jpg


What was the price on the retroish AR in the back?

8/16/2012 2:06:00 AM EDT
[#32]
It's cool that its rare, but I wouldn't even want one at transferable m16 prices. I cringe every time I draw one from the arms room, and not for how they run.

However, a 240B makes me wet my pants in joy.

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8/16/2012 2:39:05 AM EDT
[#33]
It sounds like it would actually be cheaper to become a dealer in such weapons, than to buy one out right.
8/16/2012 2:41:01 AM EDT
[#34]
Quoted:
Quoted:
Who would want a $180,000+ transferable weapon that goes "click" every time you pull the fucking trigger??





Someone did not know how to 20 level their 249?  When I got mine, I took the fucker apart and learned everything I could about it.  They are so simple compared to a 50, there  is no excuse for this happening.  249s will never go "click" either; open bolt guns do not "click" on a misfire or stoppage.  If properly maintained the 249 is very reliable.  They do tend to shit where they sleep and you will get no less than 2 different metals + a ton of residue in them.  Most failures in my experience were with the belted ammo being dislodged from its place, the crappy 200 round plastic boxes actually being used (do not use these, use the nutsacks), or in the rare event of people "prepping" their guns for dusty dry conditions and encountering a flash rain where the main spring and piston action rust together.   If you are a 249 gunner and do not have the 249 tool: you are wrong.    Unless you do not plan of firing it or you really do not understand a buffed out layer of CLP, over lubrication will not affect cleaning at all.

Fun fact: once after a mission I got asked by a young 2LT at the clearing barrel why I did not have a round chambered :P


This, my 249 ran perfectly fine.  Less competent soldiers always had jams, and FTF's.  Not saying this is always the case, im sure there are shit SAWs out there, but i think its usually operator error.  A lot of people swear by the 50 but ours never seemed to work.  For over half the deployment we used .50s before finally going to the range to shoot them, All 3 we had there jammed.  But i dont blame the 50, this is really just a failure of leadership not carrying.  I dont care how much you pmcs a weapon, you still have to shoot it to make sure it works
8/16/2012 2:46:27 AM EDT
[#35]
Quoted:
i heard there were 8 mini guns.

some mark iv belted grenade launchers

there's some rare and expensive toys out there. thats for sure.


If you ever want to spend an hour on the phone with the NFA, call them for a status check on a transfer with serial number 001. Their database has pages upon pages of that serial number, so finding the right transfer takes forever.

Kharn
8/16/2012 2:48:14 AM EDT
[#36]
Only one.

http://beta.ar15.com/archive/topic.html?b=6&f=17&t=328729
http://archery.ar15.com/archive/topic.html?b=6&f=22&t=339677
http://tacticalcourses.com/archive/topic.html?b=6&f=22&t=288543
http://209.251.48.101/archive/topic.html?b=6&f=17&t=275761

Dan Shea says only 1, then there's only 1.

Lots of pre- and post- samples. A few wrongly registered SAWs/M249s/Minimis. Only 1 transferable.
8/16/2012 3:29:13 AM EDT
[#37]
I know someone a few minutes from here that has a transferable Stoner 63, probably more of those around.
8/16/2012 3:51:51 AM EDT
[#38]
For that price it would be cheaper to start a gun shop and pay  SOT 3 or 7.
8/16/2012 4:08:23 AM EDT
[#39]
Other thatn the name, can some tell me the difference between a Minimi and an M249 SAW, because as far as I know there isn't much of a differnce.
8/16/2012 4:12:51 AM EDT
[#40]



Quoted:


I thought I had read that there was only 2 Pre 86 M249's in the registry.
That's what I was thinking.



Didn't Ameli (Spain) get a few of those into the country before the ban?





 
8/16/2012 4:56:37 AM EDT
[#41]
Wouldn't it just be cheaper to become a class three manufacturer than to try and buy one of those things?
8/16/2012 5:07:27 AM EDT
[#42]
Dan Shea combed through the production records of FN in South Carolina and found there were only 2 made pre-86 that are transferable.  There are a small number (35-40) pre-86 dealer sample minimis that were imported prior to 1986.  One of which sits in my safe.  

8/16/2012 5:56:56 AM EDT
[#43]



Quoted:


Dan Shea combed through the production records of FN in South Carolina and found there were only 2 made pre-86 that are transferable.  There are a small number (35-40) pre-86 dealer sample minimis that were imported prior to 1986.  One of which sits in my safe.  





Hi.

 



I hate you.






8/16/2012 6:08:47 AM EDT
[#44]
Quoted:
Quoted:
I thought I had read that there was only 2 Pre 86 M249's in the registry.


If that. Dan Shay says he knows of one. He is almost god like in the MG world. Last retail on it I saw was north of half a million.


i think dan had said there was one actual, transferable, 249 SAW's. there were however one or two possible transferable reweld minimi's that had been brought to 249 spec.

8/16/2012 6:24:14 AM EDT
[#45]
Makes a Shrike seem reasonable by comparison.
8/16/2012 6:29:20 AM EDT
[#46]
Quoted:
Quoted:
i heard there were 8 mini guns.

some mark iv belted grenade launchers

there's some rare and expensive toys out there. thats for sure.

It gives me wood thinking about it.  There was supposedly a transferable Minigun in tulsa at one time, but
ve never seen it.

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There was it was sold around 1990 when the guy moved to NY cause his wife wanted to be closer to her family, when I heard him say what all he had I had to do a double face palm.
8/16/2012 6:34:34 AM EDT
[#47]
Quoted:
Quoted:
Quoted:
Who would want a $180,000+ transferable weapon that goes "click" every time you pull the fucking trigger??





Yeah, my machine gun would be writing checks my ammo fort couldn't cash..


That is the conclusion I came up with.  Purchasing the weapon would not necessarily be the bad part, it would be the purchasing of sufficient ammo to feed the beast


Ever loaded a belt? It can be a hassle.... as can be keeping yourself in links.
8/16/2012 6:37:47 AM EDT
[#48]
there was one (an Curio and relic) for sale on bowers site just a few days ago...

sorry... it's on gunbroker... a prototype m60...
8/16/2012 6:54:09 AM EDT
[#49]



Quoted:



Quoted:


Quoted:

Who would want a $180,000+ transferable weapon that goes "click" every time you pull the fucking trigger??




Someone did not know how to 20 level their 249?  When I got mine, I took the fucker apart and learned everything I could about it.  They are so simple compared to a 50, there  is no excuse for this happening.  249s will never go "click" either; open bolt guns do not "click" on a misfire or stoppage.  If properly maintained the 249 is very reliable.  They do tend to shit where they sleep and you will get no less than 2 different metals + a ton of residue in them.  Most failures in my experience were with the belted ammo being dislodged from its place, the crappy 200 round plastic boxes actually being used (do not use these, use the nutsacks), or in the rare event of people "prepping" their guns for dusty dry conditions and encountering a flash rain where the main spring and piston action rust together.   If you are a 249 gunner and do not have the 249 tool: you are wrong.    Unless you do not plan of firing it or you really do not understand a buffed out layer of CLP, over lubrication will not affect cleaning at all.



Fun fact: once after a mission I got asked by a young 2LT at the clearing barrel why I did not have a round chambered :P




This, my 249 ran perfectly fine.  Less competent soldiers always had jams, and FTF's.  Not saying this is always the case, im sure there are shit SAWs out there, but i think its usually operator error.  A lot of people swear by the 50 but ours never seemed to work.  For over half the deployment we used .50s before finally going to the range to shoot them, All 3 we had there jammed.  But i dont blame the 50, this is really just a failure of leadership not carrying.  I dont care how much you pmcs a weapon, you still have to shoot it to make sure it works


Umm...pretty sure he meant he wouldn't be able to afford to feed said SAW.



Jesus...



 
8/16/2012 7:06:39 AM EDT
[#50]
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Dan Shea combed through the production records of FN in South Carolina and found there were only 2 made pre-86 that are transferable.  There are a small number (35-40) pre-86 dealer sample minimis that were imported prior to 1986.  One of which sits in my safe.  


Pics or I don't believe you, seriously.



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