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Posted: 12/27/2013 10:48:32 PM EDT
In volatile Congo, a new U.N. force with teeth Inaction is precisely what the U.N. mission here has been criticized for in the 14 years since the United Nations dispatched soldiers to Congo, the first members of what has become the largest peacekeeping force in U.N. history. Now, the U.N. Security Council has launched the Forward Intervention Brigade in a bold attempt to defeat the dozens of militias that pillage this mineral-rich central African country, which is roughly the size of Western Europe. The brigade, composed of 3,000 soldiers, is the United Nations’ first offensive combat force and is seen as a possible model for defusing crises in other chaotic parts of the world. But the force is also an unparalleled gamble for the United Nations that challenges the basic principles of peacekeeping. It has orders to react offensively to enforce peace, essentially transforming peacekeepers into combatants. And it is openly supporting Congolese government forces, a move away from the principle of neutrality that has guided other U.N. missions. December 27, 2013: The UN’s Force Intervention Brigade (IBDE) is back in action in the eastern Congo. Elements of the IBD attacked rebels in the Allied Democratic Forces ADF-National Army for the Liberation of Uganda (ADF-NALU). The IBDE attack included fire from the brigade’s armed helicopters which supported an attack by the Congolese Army (FARDC) on the town of Kamango. ADF rebels seized the town earlier in the month and then kidnapped and murdered several civilians. The ADF is an Islamist organization and the Ugandan government contends that the ADF is allied with Somalia’s radical Al Shabaab Islamist militia. Link Trijicon Reflex? 
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Posted: 12/27/2013 10:52:06 PM EDT
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The UN intervenes?
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Posted: 12/27/2013 10:59:15 PM EDT
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Posted: 12/27/2013 11:00:51 PM EDT
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OP: Meprolight M21 on either a Galil or R4.
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Posted: 12/27/2013 11:01:01 PM EDT
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So when do they start human trafficking?
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Posted: 12/27/2013 11:04:19 PM EDT
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It will be interesting to see how effective they are.
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Posted: 12/27/2013 11:07:25 PM EDT
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So when do they start human trafficking? This. |
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Posted: 12/27/2013 11:09:39 PM EDT
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Was that a staged photo? Only that ONE GUY has night vision on his helmet. One guy?
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Posted: 12/27/2013 11:10:12 PM EDT
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Same guy has a second chin strap on his adams apple.
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Posted: 12/27/2013 11:12:39 PM EDT
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The UN intervenes? interesting................ They figured out that neutrality bullshit doesn't work. Or they ran out of women, children, and livestock to rape in their current AO. Not sure which. |
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Posted: 12/27/2013 11:14:01 PM EDT
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The UN has caused more harm to the Congo than good since it first intervened there.
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Posted: 12/27/2013 11:22:27 PM EDT
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bringing cholera round the world again?
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Posted: 12/28/2013 1:09:11 AM EDT
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Coming to a city near you.
seriously, I read the title and thought it said "Chicago..." I wonder how long 3k UN troops would survive in Chi-town. |
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Posted: 12/28/2013 2:23:02 AM EDT
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Something seems a bit off about their camouflage, something is standing out...if I didn't know better I'd say they're running around with bright blue helmets on, but that would be silly.
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Posted: 12/28/2013 2:25:12 AM EDT
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Africa is just popping lately. Aren't the Chinese supposed to be colonizing Africa now? Let them deal with it.
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Posted: 12/28/2013 2:29:37 AM EDT
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So when do they start human trafficking? That may be what they're protecting. |
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Posted: 12/28/2013 4:40:52 AM EDT
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Something seems a bit off about their camouflage, something is standing out...if I didn't know better I'd say they're running around with bright blue helmets on, but that would be silly. They also drive white APCs with no snow. |
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Posted: 12/28/2013 1:20:16 PM EDT
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They also drive white APCs with no snow. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Something seems a bit off about their camouflage, something is standing out...if I didn't know better I'd say they're running around with bright blue helmets on, but that would be silly. They also drive white APCs with no snow. Not to mention the white helicopters. |
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Posted: 12/28/2013 1:22:43 PM EDT
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So when do they start human trafficking? That's silly. 
They'll be too busy fucking the teen/pre-teen prostitutes. 
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Posted: 12/28/2013 1:23:03 PM EDT
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Was that a staged photo? Only that ONE GUY has night vision on his helmet. One guy? "Where the hell are we Muhamed?! Seriously, we can't see shit!" |
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Posted: 12/28/2013 1:30:57 PM EDT
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That's silly.
They'll be too busy fucking the teen/pre-teen prostitutes. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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So when do they start human trafficking? That's silly.
They'll be too busy fucking the teen/pre-teen prostitutes. That's ridiculous, they'll be too busy spreading Cholera. http://www.nytimes.com/2013/10/09/world/americas/rights-advocates-suing-un-over-the-spread-of-cholera-in-haiti.html?_r=0 |
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Posted: 12/28/2013 1:39:17 PM EDT
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Was that a staged photo? Only that ONE GUY has night vision on his helmet. One guy? Newsflash. Not all militaries are equipped the same. |
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Posted: 12/28/2013 1:56:34 PM EDT
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Not to mention the white helicopters. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Something seems a bit off about their camouflage, something is standing out...if I didn't know better I'd say they're running around with bright blue helmets on, but that would be silly. They also drive white APCs with no snow. Not to mention the white helicopters. It would be very expensive to maintain snow there. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile |
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Posted: 12/28/2013 2:01:15 PM EDT
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Considering the size of the country, that's not much of a force.
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Posted: 12/28/2013 2:02:49 PM EDT
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Remember: Western-lead soldiers deciding who runs Africa is only bad when the UN isn't in charge.
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Posted: 12/28/2013 2:18:03 PM EDT
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Same guy has a second chin strap on his adams apple. one for helmet and one for pvs-7 head-gear, must not have got a helmet mount....I know a bunch of guys who went to fallujah with peq-2s taped to their m16a2 handguards |
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Posted: 12/28/2013 2:25:18 PM EDT
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So when do they start human trafficking? Yesterday, today they start raping children. Tomorrow the rebels start eating Peace Keepers. |
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Posted: 12/28/2013 2:28:50 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Newsflash. Not all militaries are equipped the same. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Was that a staged photo? Only that ONE GUY has night vision on his helmet. One guy? Newsflash. Not all militaries are equipped the same. Ha. I remember being shocked when I came back on active duty in 2010 and saw they were issuing every swinging dick a set of PVS-14s. Where the fuck was THAT during the invasion? |
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Posted: 12/28/2013 2:50:20 PM EDT
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Remember: Western-lead soldiers deciding who runs Africa is only bad when the UN isn't in charge. They're not. India is running the show. It's funny that the Paki troops have Indian air support. There are forces there from Rwanda,Senegal,RSA,Morocco and South America but Europe is pretty much staying out of this. As to an earlier post: truth, Black Jack Schramme was in the right. |
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Posted: 12/28/2013 3:03:55 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: They're not. India is running the show. It's funny that the Paki troops have Indian air support. There are forces there from Rwanda,Senegal,RSA,Morocco and South America but Europe is pretty much staying out of this. As to an earlier post: truth, Black Jack Schramme was in the right. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Remember: Western-lead soldiers deciding who runs Africa is only bad when the UN isn't in charge. They're not. India is running the show. It's funny that the Paki troops have Indian air support. There are forces there from Rwanda,Senegal,RSA,Morocco and South America but Europe is pretty much staying out of this. As to an earlier post: truth, Black Jack Schramme was in the right. This should be interesting.
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Posted: 12/28/2013 3:13:37 PM EDT
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Somebody ought to take a Saab Tunnan out of mothballs, just for old time's sake.
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Posted: 12/28/2013 3:22:01 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: It will be interesting to see how effective they are. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile |
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Posted: 12/28/2013 3:56:23 PM EDT
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Ha. I remember being shocked when I came back on active duty in 2010 and saw they were issuing every swinging dick a set of PVS-14s. Where the fuck was THAT during the invasion? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Was that a staged photo? Only that ONE GUY has night vision on his helmet. One guy? Newsflash. Not all militaries are equipped the same. Ha. I remember being shocked when I came back on active duty in 2010 and saw they were issuing every swinging dick a set of PVS-14s. Where the fuck was THAT during the invasion? I'll admit to thinking at times I had too much. Looking at my MAL one time in 2009, I caught myself thinking what the fuck am I going to do with 75 sets of NVGs and a firing battery mission. |
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Posted: 12/28/2013 4:04:00 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I'll admit to thinking at times I had too much. Looking at my MAL one time in 2009, I caught myself thinking what the fuck am I going to do with 75 sets of NVGs and a firing battery mission. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Was that a staged photo? Only that ONE GUY has night vision on his helmet. One guy? Newsflash. Not all militaries are equipped the same. Ha. I remember being shocked when I came back on active duty in 2010 and saw they were issuing every swinging dick a set of PVS-14s. Where the fuck was THAT during the invasion? I'll admit to thinking at times I had too much. Looking at my MAL one time in 2009, I caught myself thinking what the fuck am I going to do with 75 sets of NVGs and a firing battery mission. I've been accused many times of not caring enough for the Marines because of advocating serious reductions in the amount of high speed shit they hand out. I understand intimately the reality that in a gun fight at night some lives might be saved by Marines having extra NVGs. I also understand that an ACOG on every rifle is a nice thing, and improves observation and target acquisition for the individual shooters. I also understand that we still kick ass when there is only one ACOG per fire team, and one set of NVGs per fire team or squad. I hate to sound callous and evil, but I question if the nation realizes that while lives are precious, precious commodities, we truly can't sustain the course we are on- and we need to learn that extra risk in combat may need to be assumed in order to prevent our destruction by other means. Of course I don't feel this way just about gear they issue us, but about entitlement programs and all other manners of rampant uncontrolled spending as well. |
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Posted: 12/28/2013 4:16:15 PM EDT
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I've been accused many times of not caring enough for the Marines because of advocating serious reductions in the amount of high speed shit they hand out. I understand intimately the reality that in a gun fight at night some lives might be saved by Marines having extra NVGs. I also understand that an ACOG on every rifle is a nice thing, and improves observation and target acquisition for the individual shooters. I also understand that we still kick ass when there is only one ACOG per fire team, and one set of NVGs per fire team or squad. I hate to sound callous and evil, but I question if the nation realizes that while lives are precious, precious commodities, we truly can't sustain the course we are on- and we need to learn that extra risk in combat may need to be assumed in order to prevent our destruction by other means. Of course I don't feel this way just about gear they issue us, but about entitlement programs and all other manners of rampant uncontrolled spending as well. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Was that a staged photo? Only that ONE GUY has night vision on his helmet. One guy? Newsflash. Not all militaries are equipped the same. Ha. I remember being shocked when I came back on active duty in 2010 and saw they were issuing every swinging dick a set of PVS-14s. Where the fuck was THAT during the invasion? I'll admit to thinking at times I had too much. Looking at my MAL one time in 2009, I caught myself thinking what the fuck am I going to do with 75 sets of NVGs and a firing battery mission. I've been accused many times of not caring enough for the Marines because of advocating serious reductions in the amount of high speed shit they hand out. I understand intimately the reality that in a gun fight at night some lives might be saved by Marines having extra NVGs. I also understand that an ACOG on every rifle is a nice thing, and improves observation and target acquisition for the individual shooters. I also understand that we still kick ass when there is only one ACOG per fire team, and one set of NVGs per fire team or squad. I hate to sound callous and evil, but I question if the nation realizes that while lives are precious, precious commodities, we truly can't sustain the course we are on- and we need to learn that extra risk in combat may need to be assumed in order to prevent our destruction by other means. Of course I don't feel this way just about gear they issue us, but about entitlement programs and all other manners of rampant uncontrolled spending as well. NVG??? How much are the old parachute flares per round? |
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Posted: 12/28/2013 4:18:36 PM EDT
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Woo power?
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Posted: 12/28/2013 4:18:37 PM EDT
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what's their rape schedule look like?
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Posted: 12/28/2013 4:30:16 PM EDT
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Isn't that an old ass PVS-7A?
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Posted: 12/28/2013 4:35:36 PM EDT
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That's ridiculous, they'll be too busy spreading Cholera. http://www.nytimes.com/2013/10/09/world/americas/rights-advocates-suing-un-over-the-spread-of-cholera-in-haiti.html?_r=0 Quote HistoryQuoted:
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So when do they start human trafficking? That's silly.
They'll be too busy fucking the teen/pre-teen prostitutes. That's ridiculous, they'll be too busy spreading Cholera. http://www.nytimes.com/2013/10/09/world/americas/rights-advocates-suing-un-over-the-spread-of-cholera-in-haiti.html?_r=0 We could do this all night. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile |
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Posted: 12/28/2013 4:44:04 PM EDT
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Posted: 12/28/2013 11:42:17 PM EDT
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Interesting, since I've also watched a clip of these guys deploying in support of the UN in South Sudan over and over today on the BBC:
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Posted: 12/29/2013 11:52:00 PM EDT
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Somebody ought to take a Saab Tunnan out of mothballs, just for old time's sake. Too bad they didn't get shot down by the Katangese. The latter did manage to nail a couple of UN aircraft, though, as well as a USAF one. Sweden was on the wrong side in that war. |
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Posted: 12/29/2013 11:53:08 PM EDT
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This should be interesting. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Remember: Western-lead soldiers deciding who runs Africa is only bad when the UN isn't in charge. They're not. India is running the show. It's funny that the Paki troops have Indian air support. There are forces there from Rwanda,Senegal,RSA,Morocco and South America but Europe is pretty much staying out of this. As to an earlier post: truth, Black Jack Schramme was in the right. This should be interesting. The Indians played a leading role in screwing over parts of the Congo in the 1960s. I find it amazing how aggressive India was as a country in that time. |
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Posted: 12/30/2013 12:25:31 AM EDT
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I've been accused many times of not caring enough for the Marines because of advocating serious reductions in the amount of high speed shit they hand out. I understand intimately the reality that in a gun fight at night some lives might be saved by Marines having extra NVGs. I also understand that an ACOG on every rifle is a nice thing, and improves observation and target acquisition for the individual shooters. I also understand that we still kick ass when there is only one ACOG per fire team, and one set of NVGs per fire team or squad. I hate to sound callous and evil, but I question if the nation realizes that while lives are precious, precious commodities, we truly can't sustain the course we are on- and we need to learn that extra risk in combat may need to be assumed in order to prevent our destruction by other means. Of course I don't feel this way just about gear they issue us, but about entitlement programs and all other manners of rampant uncontrolled spending as well. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Was that a staged photo? Only that ONE GUY has night vision on his helmet. One guy? Newsflash. Not all militaries are equipped the same. Ha. I remember being shocked when I came back on active duty in 2010 and saw they were issuing every swinging dick a set of PVS-14s. Where the fuck was THAT during the invasion? I'll admit to thinking at times I had too much. Looking at my MAL one time in 2009, I caught myself thinking what the fuck am I going to do with 75 sets of NVGs and a firing battery mission. I've been accused many times of not caring enough for the Marines because of advocating serious reductions in the amount of high speed shit they hand out. I understand intimately the reality that in a gun fight at night some lives might be saved by Marines having extra NVGs. I also understand that an ACOG on every rifle is a nice thing, and improves observation and target acquisition for the individual shooters. I also understand that we still kick ass when there is only one ACOG per fire team, and one set of NVGs per fire team or squad. I hate to sound callous and evil, but I question if the nation realizes that while lives are precious, precious commodities, we truly can't sustain the course we are on- and we need to learn that extra risk in combat may need to be assumed in order to prevent our destruction by other means. Of course I don't feel this way just about gear they issue us, but about entitlement programs and all other manners of rampant uncontrolled spending as well. I'll take the ACOGs and the NVGs. They can keep the PPE that just gets bigger and bulkier and heavier each time I deploy. If I wanted to be a tank I wouldn't have gone into the infantry. |
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Posted: 12/30/2013 1:36:02 AM EDT
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Something seems a bit off about their camouflage, something is standing out...if I didn't know better I'd say they're running around with bright blue helmets on, but that would be silly. Blends in with the nurseries they frequently raid |
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Posted: 12/30/2013 3:48:26 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I'll take the ACOGs and the NVGs. They can keep the PPE that just gets bigger and bulkier and heavier each time I deploy. If I wanted to be a tank I wouldn't have gone into the infantry. Quote HistoryQuoted: I'll take the ACOGs and the NVGs. They can keep the PPE that just gets bigger and bulkier and heavier each time I deploy. If I wanted to be a tank I wouldn't have gone into the infantry. Oh, I've been raked over the coals about that as well. I was letting Marines wear plate carriers vice the Hesco Barrier carrier. Higher got pissed to no end and I got to spend a significant amount of time being lectured about how if I cared for the Marines I'd make sure they wore all available PPE. When I tried to make the argument that mobility is also survivability I was told that the Marines should PT more and get stronger then so that the extra PPE won't slow them down.  |
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