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Link Posted: 1/10/2022 9:59:42 PM EDT
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Okay, you shits, not to sound weird or anything, but if you do start pumping out ammo, you need two things:

1. A giant button that says "Ammo" that you press and ammo comes raining out.

2. A Scrooge McDuck Moneybin full of ammo that I can roll around in like an idiot.

This announcement... it was like a hundred million wallets cried out in terror and were silenced...
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I would love to buy primers produced next door.

-Mike


Look for a giant construction site across the street from ferrous engineering


Okay, you shits, not to sound weird or anything, but if you do start pumping out ammo, you need two things:

1. A giant button that says "Ammo" that you press and ammo comes raining out.

2. A Scrooge McDuck Moneybin full of ammo that I can roll around in like an idiot.

This announcement... it was like a hundred million wallets cried out in terror and were silenced...

Yes to both points. I'd drive to SC just to do that.
Link Posted: 1/10/2022 9:59:46 PM EDT
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Every day, the NRA falls further from God's grace.

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well, they're a bunch of asshole fudds, so...
Link Posted: 1/10/2022 10:16:53 PM EDT
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We had to spend $100m to be able to post this pic, the culmination of a life’s work for many

Goes live February
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Link Posted: 1/10/2022 10:33:33 PM EDT
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Gen3 PSA-14 white phosphorus for $999?
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the decision to postpone the PSA5 was mine, it was a trade off between that and another project. When you see the other project revealed in February you will understand why. It will flip the industry on its head.

Jamin


Gen3 PSA-14 white phosphorus for $999?
That's going to burn, really badly.
Link Posted: 1/10/2022 10:33:47 PM EDT
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Oh yeah baby!
Link Posted: 1/10/2022 11:30:52 PM EDT
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We need more epic threads shitting on PSA. Every time there’s a good one they show us why they’re great people then drop awesome news about new products.
Link Posted: 1/11/2022 12:14:49 AM EDT
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PSA confirms they are based in this thread

I look forward to the ammo
Link Posted: 1/11/2022 12:17:48 AM EDT
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Please bring back the Mini-4!
Link Posted: 1/11/2022 1:33:50 AM EDT
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Please open a store in PHX area...

Maybe Casa Grand, AZ as its between PHX and Tucson?
Link Posted: 1/11/2022 3:34:00 AM EDT
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the decision to postpone the PSA5 was mine, it was a trade off between that and another project. When you see the other project revealed in February you will understand why. It will flip the industry on its head.

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Link Posted: 1/11/2022 5:27:04 AM EDT
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Speaking of PSA and the NRA, something that irritates me is the donate to NRA option on PSA's site.  I don't care if they want the NRA there but I wish they offered options for other gun rights organizations too. I imagine the organizations are missing out on a ton of funding from people who would donate but refuse to fund the current NRA.

If you guys see this, I hope you can find a way to improve that feature and further help the movement.


Link Posted: 1/11/2022 8:49:59 AM EDT
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But will they check your handicap card, if you park in a handicap parking space, and report you if no card is displayed?
Link Posted: 1/11/2022 9:05:44 AM EDT
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I heard a rumor it was a completely new design in a new caliber and it is going to be accepted by the military as the new service weapon.
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Somehow I doubt that. The flip the industry on its head thing.

I heard a rumor it was a completely new design in a new caliber and it is going to be accepted by the military as the new service weapon.


Link Posted: 1/11/2022 9:19:49 AM EDT
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Palmetto state armory has done more for the 2nd amendment than just about any group since the revolution.

Enabling regular people to affordably exercise their rights is the most important way to get regular people involved in maintaining our rights.

Look at the price of machine guns now.  That is a right denied.

I'll always give Palmetto the benefit of the doubt.

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The Russian revolution??  French Revolution?? Chinese revolution??  Revolution per minute??
Link Posted: 1/11/2022 9:24:32 AM EDT
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I'm gettin a boner....




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Link Posted: 1/11/2022 9:42:40 AM EDT
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@Jman_JJE  @PalmettoStateArmory

If you all ever consider expanding to Northeast TN or Southwest VA, I would love to help make that happen.

There is a really nice building that Cabela's (now empty) built a few years ago that would make a great location for you all.  It is on the I-81 corridor (on the VA side of Bristol), and a PSA store with indoor range would be a great compliment to the Hard Rock Casino that is being built just down the road.  If you prefer a TN location, there is an expanding development on the Bristol TN side called The Pinnacle.  It has a Bass Pro shop currently, but your store with an indoor range would be a huge hit.  Both locations are right off the interstate and roughly 2-3 miles from the Hard Rock casino location.  Bristol is known for the Nascar track and for being the birthplace of country music, as well as the "State Line" street that divides the city between VA and TN.  

Shoot me a PM if you want to chat.
Link Posted: 1/11/2022 9:54:23 AM EDT
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Can't wait for all the Arfcom elite shitting in every PSA ammo thread.

That PSA ammo is for the poors...
Link Posted: 1/11/2022 10:09:50 AM EDT
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@Jman_JJE  @PalmettoStateArmory

If you all ever consider expanding to Northeast TN or Southwest VA, I would love to help make that happen.

There is a really nice building that Cabela's (now empty) built a few years ago that would make a great location for you all.  It is on the I-81 corridor (on the VA side of Bristol), and a PSA store with indoor range would be a great compliment to the Hard Rock Casino that is being built just down the road.  If you prefer a TN location, there is an expanding development on the Bristol TN side called The Pinnacle.  It has a Bass Pro shop currently, but your store with an indoor range would be a huge hit.  Both locations are right off the interstate and roughly 2-3 miles from the Hard Rock casino location.  Bristol is known for the Nascar track and for being the birthplace of country music, as well as the "State Line" street that divides the city between VA and TN.  

Shoot me a PM if you want to chat.
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Honestly that would be a pretty stellar location, the pinnacle more than the old Cabelas. I can only imagine what the property costs though.

The casino is going to be huge. I specifically placed our Bourbon in that Bristol store in anticipation of the Casino.
Link Posted: 1/11/2022 12:51:17 PM EDT
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Can't wait for all the Arfcom elite shitting in every PSA ammo thread.

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I have some PSA lowers tucked away but not much else from them at the moment.  But shitting on them because you move to more expensive or more specific stuff misses the point.  PSA fills the most important role of any of the manufacturers I am aware of, they make it a stated goal to arm as many people as possible.  

That is what ensures the future of the second amendment.  Nothing does a better job of preventing another AWB than putting scary looking rifles in the hands of as many people as possible.  That gets them invested, they don’t want to lose them to some stupid law.  

When I retired from the Navy in 2020 I even applied for a QA position based on their stated goal on the web site.  I never heard back before accepting another role, but as they expand out here I will do so again.  It’s a mission I whole heartedly believe in and think will go a long way to ensure my sons receive the same protections recognized by the 2nd amendment that I have.

We don’t need to eat our own in this industry, the market is plenty big to go around.  But arming the guy making 25k a year is just as important as arming the one comfortably into six figures.  

-Mike
Link Posted: 1/11/2022 1:16:53 PM EDT
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Can't wait for all the Arfcom elite shitting in every PSA ammo thread.

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My Geissele rifles are hungry. The IMI I currently use for close and fast shooting (2 gun, USPSA Rifle, etc...) groups like I'm patterning a shotgun. PSA has a pretty low bar to get over to be my preferred blasting ammo.

My PSAK is also hungry. Hopefully the steel case ammo mentioned is gonna be standard 7.62 choppa boolits.
Link Posted: 1/11/2022 1:18:59 PM EDT
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Dis gonna be goooood!  Goes to PSA buys AAC steel case ammo but can't shoot steel case ammo at indoor PSA range.  
(Yes, I was told brass only when I asked about my aluminum case ammo after seeing the "no steel case ammo" sign posted.)
Link Posted: 1/11/2022 1:48:01 PM EDT
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Honestly that would be a pretty stellar location, the pinnacle more than the old Cabelas. I can only imagine what the property costs though.

The casino is going to be huge. I specifically placed our Bourbon in that Bristol store in anticipation of the Casino.
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@Jman_JJE  @PalmettoStateArmory

If you all ever consider expanding to Northeast TN or Southwest VA, I would love to help make that happen.

There is a really nice building that Cabela's (now empty) built a few years ago that would make a great location for you all.  It is on the I-81 corridor (on the VA side of Bristol), and a PSA store with indoor range would be a great compliment to the Hard Rock Casino that is being built just down the road.  If you prefer a TN location, there is an expanding development on the Bristol TN side called The Pinnacle.  It has a Bass Pro shop currently, but your store with an indoor range would be a huge hit.  Both locations are right off the interstate and roughly 2-3 miles from the Hard Rock casino location.  Bristol is known for the Nascar track and for being the birthplace of country music, as well as the "State Line" street that divides the city between VA and TN.  

Shoot me a PM if you want to chat.

Honestly that would be a pretty stellar location, the pinnacle more than the old Cabelas. I can only imagine what the property costs though.

The casino is going to be huge. I specifically placed our Bourbon in that Bristol store in anticipation of the Casino.

Hey @Jman_JJE  @PalmettoStateArmory,

As long as we're throwing out our new location wish list how about central Florida.  Need a big name to give Shoot Straight a run for their money!
Link Posted: 1/11/2022 1:56:34 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 1/11/2022 3:34:30 PM EDT
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I love PSA sooo much!  No one is doing more for the 2nd than Josiah.  Keep up the good work!!!!
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My Geissele rifles are hungry. The IMI I currently use for close and fast shooting (2 gun, USPSA Rifle, etc...) groups like I'm patterning a shotgun. PSA has a pretty low bar to get over to be my preferred blasting ammo.

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IMI is grouping poorly for you? It’s usually pretty good stuff. 55 grain fmj?
Link Posted: 1/11/2022 5:06:31 PM EDT
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First, thank you PSA for making the customer whole in a way that shows you truly care. That response was about the best that anyone could ask for.

Second, I'm glad you are tackling the more pressing issue of ammunition availability. Clearly there is a market for it.

I'm concerned though about the materials. Are y'all making primers and smokeless powder in-house too? I still don't even know why we rely so heavily on foreign countries for this stuff, but have y'all overcome that issue?
Link Posted: 1/11/2022 6:30:55 PM EDT
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First, thank you PSA for making the customer whole in a way that shows you truly care. That response was about the best that anyone could ask for.

Second, I'm glad you are tackling the more pressing issue of ammunition availability. Clearly there is a market for it.

I'm concerned though about the materials. Are y'all making primers and smokeless powder in-house too? I still don't even know why we rely so heavily on foreign countries for this stuff, but have y'all overcome that issue?
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Same reason as everything else: for decades the government has been heaping regulations on industry to the point where it just doesn't make sense to make anything the EPA doesn't like here.
Link Posted: 1/11/2022 10:38:44 PM EDT
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I'd love working for them.
Link Posted: 1/11/2022 11:58:25 PM EDT
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Outstanding news!!

Quite the feet to get to where you guys are.

True 2A heroes.
Link Posted: 1/12/2022 1:13:28 AM EDT
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Same reason as everything else: for decades the government has been heaping regulations on industry to the point where it just doesn't make sense to make anything the EPA doesn't like here.
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First, thank you PSA for making the customer whole in a way that shows you truly care. That response was about the best that anyone could ask for.

Second, I'm glad you are tackling the more pressing issue of ammunition availability. Clearly there is a market for it.

I'm concerned though about the materials. Are y'all making primers and smokeless powder in-house too? I still don't even know why we rely so heavily on foreign countries for this stuff, but have y'all overcome that issue?

Same reason as everything else: for decades the government has been heaping regulations on industry to the point where it just doesn't make sense to make anything the EPA doesn't like here.


So is it the sort of thing that PSA may have managed to get past? I have no idea what types of materials/chemicals go into this stuff, the supply lines for it, or if it's even possible at all in the U.S. regardless of cost.

Are any primers or powders made in the states at all?
Link Posted: 1/12/2022 1:25:58 AM EDT
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So is it the sort of thing that PSA may have managed to get past? I have no idea what types of materials/chemicals go into this stuff, the supply lines for it, or if it's even possible at all in the U.S. regardless of cost.

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AFAIK most of our primers are made here, its just that when Americans get nervous they can outstrip any supply.

Also if expanding ammo production is difficult, expanding primer production is a nightmare. So far no one has figured out how to automate it, so you have skilled labor all the way down. And then getting chemical feedstocks is difficult because they've been run out of the country. And then the additional layer of .gov trouble because you are manufacturing hazmat.
Link Posted: 1/12/2022 10:17:46 AM EDT
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look at who said it (who you are responding to) seems to be a fed. you think a fed gives a fuck about your rights? come on man, "rules for thee, not for me".
Link Posted: 1/12/2022 10:20:30 AM EDT
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more like it

and in for endless pages of wild speculation
Link Posted: 1/12/2022 10:37:08 AM EDT
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IMI is grouping poorly for you? It’s usually pretty good stuff. 55 grain fmj?
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Yeah, the 193 clone. The IMI 262 clone usually gets between 1 and 1.5moa with either and frontier 75s are sub minute with one, 1-1.25 moa with the other.

The IMI 193 has produced as large as 5.5" groups at 100 yards. Maybe its a shitty lot, maybe my G barrels just really don't like 55 grain bullets. At the distances I typically use this ammo, its nowhere near enough of a difference to make a difference.
Link Posted: 1/12/2022 10:38:33 AM EDT
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Wow. So now we see how to divide and conquer the 2A culture. Spread a few fake stories on Reddit and watch the gun bunnies eat their own.
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how is it a "fake stories" scenario? you've had 4 people, (up to the point of your post) relate the exact same thing happening to them at a psa store, and calling psa to come read their post. i don't use their range (too far) and to be fair, my only complaint about psa is the horrific toll they take on my bank account, with their god-damned daily deals.
Link Posted: 1/12/2022 10:49:42 AM EDT
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how is it a "fake stories" scenario? you've had 4 people, (up to the point of your post) relate the exact same thing happening to them at a psa store, and calling psa to come read their post. i don't use their range (too far) and to be fair, my only complaint about psa is the horrific toll they take on my bank account, with their god-damned daily deals.
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Wow. So now we see how to divide and conquer the 2A culture. Spread a few fake stories on Reddit and watch the gun bunnies eat their own.



how is it a "fake stories" scenario? you've had 4 people, (up to the point of your post) relate the exact same thing happening to them at a psa store, and calling psa to come read their post. i don't use their range (too far) and to be fair, my only complaint about psa is the horrific toll they take on my bank account, with their god-damned daily deals.



Those DAMNED DAILY DEALS!!!!!!
Link Posted: 1/12/2022 11:10:49 AM EDT
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We are the biggest supporters of the 2nd amendment in the country. We have dedicated our lives to preserving the personal freedoms of Americans. If you ever have an issue reach out to us directly. We have 1700 employees and we can’t control what all of them say or do. They are imperfect people just like us. However, we love them as employees and couldn’t do what we do without them, just like we love our customers.

We are all in this together and I wish that the gun community was more supportive of each other. This thread and others like really bother me as I wish we could focus this kind of energy on defending the 2nd amendment as we do in trying to pile on each other.
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i agree with the first paragraph well written, and you've made some excellent points. the second part, i don't agree with. had this not been posted on reddit, and brought here, this wouldn't have been discussed. the "dogpile" was needed, as it brought more people into the discussion, that related similar incidents, what stores they were at, and then called you guys out to come and participate. it wasn't a "one time deal", by a single employee, at a single location. the dogpile exposed something you guys apparently were unaware of, and that gave you the opportunity to correct it. psa stepped up (like they always seem to do) and made it right.

as "2a" supporters, you have to understand (and acknowledge) we have that very right, because a bunch of farmers, rebels and patriots "dogpiled" some 250 years ago, and built what we have today. (minus the last 50 years of fucking it all up) sometimes a dogpile is the only way to get something started. the polite, rational discussion comes after. the dogpile was needed, and psa came forward with the polite, rational solution.  there is a place, and need for both.

before i forget, screw your daily deals!!! how much ramen can one man eat?!?!?!
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Steel in 2023 and yes
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Yay!
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I would love to buy primers produced next door.

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This!!!
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