Posted: 4/26/2012 6:17:50 PM EDT
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My 10 year old APC UPS went tits up, the battery itself is over $30 - maybe time to just get a newer one with a larger capacity. What do you people think about this APC model? It has 10 outlets which is really nice, considering I am using a power strip also for additional outlets. The thing seems massive, it's 19" x 9" x 15" - i have full size Desktop with 3 HDD - 950 watt power supply, 24" and 19" monitors, 2 laptops, speaker system, 8 -port switch, 2 printers and a VoIP. APC BR1500G BACK-UPS Pro 1500 10-Outlet 1500VA/865W UPS System or APC BR1000G 600 Watts/1000 VA or CyberPower 1350VA 810W Pure Sine Wave Tower |
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http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16842111052
I would go the Tripp-Lite direction due to better warranty support, better customer service, and just a better product. I hate APC, and have seen them shit upon numerous customers, so much so, that our shop quit carrying their products. |
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Quoted: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16842111052 I would go the Tripp-Lite direction due to better warranty support, better customer service, and just a better product. I hate APC, and have seen them shit upon numerous customers, so much so, that our shop quit carrying their products. Did you even check the feedback on that one? |
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The 1500 will likely have a longer running time. If you go with the smaller one you risk it being close to your maximum overall load and also a shorter run time.
I personally prefer APC Smart-UPS models. More expensive but more options for longer run time. Also they have true sine wave output. -Foxxz |
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http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16842111052 I would go the Tripp-Lite direction due to better warranty support, better customer service, and just a better product. I hate APC, and have seen them shit upon numerous customers, so much so, that our shop quit carrying their products. When I was a PC tech our site had at least 500 smart ups 1500s. In a couple years in the shop there were only a few that broke that didn't just need new batteries. |
Are you looking for a graceful shutdown, or actual runtime? That's a huge difference 
Not a good pic, but you can see the two rackmount Lieberts in my home office pic: 
ETA: I build backup power infrastructure in server rooms for a living, so my question isn't meant to be sarcastic. |
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Batteries in a UPS are a replacement item. Expect to replace them generally every 2-5 years. I have 2 of these http://www.amazon.com/APC-Smart-UPS-SMT1000-1000VA-System/dp/B002MZUNXU and they work quite well. Although don't just look for the manufacturer for replacements. We got new batteries from a local vendor for half the price. |
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Quoted: Are you looking for a graceful shutdown, or actual runtime? That's a huge difference Not a good pic, but you can see the two rackmount Lieberts in my home office pic: http://home.comcast.net/~cjan99999/extinguisher.JPG ETA: I build backup power infrastructure in server rooms for a living, so my question isn't meant to be sarcastic. are you expecting a large fire  |
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Batteries in a UPS are a replacement item. Expect to replace them generally every 2-5 years. I have 2 of these http://www.amazon.com/APC-Smart-UPS-SMT1000-1000VA-System/dp/B002MZUNXU and they work quite well. Although don't just look for the manufacturer for replacements. We got new batteries from a local vendor for half the price. My company would be BANKRUPT is we bought our replacement batteries from the manufacturer. Here is where I buy most of mine http://www.gruberpower.com/ |
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Batteries in a UPS are a replacement item. Expect to replace them generally every 2-5 years. I have 2 of these http://www.amazon.com/APC-Smart-UPS-SMT1000-1000VA-System/dp/B002MZUNXU and they work quite well. Although don't just look for the manufacturer for replacements. We got new batteries from a local vendor for half the price. Correct. Some of APC's UPSes have a warranty that covers any equipment that gets fried while connected to their UPS. Buying batteries from other sources invalidates that warranty. -Foxxz |
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Batteries in a UPS are a replacement item. Expect to replace them generally every 2-5 years. I have 2 of these http://www.amazon.com/APC-Smart-UPS-SMT1000-1000VA-System/dp/B002MZUNXU and they work quite well. Although don't just look for the manufacturer for replacements. We got new batteries from a local vendor for half the price. My company would be BANKRUPT is we bought our replacement batteries from the manufacturer. Here is where I buy most of mine http://www.gruberpower.com/ We just got ours from Batteries Plus. We took the pigtails and fuses off the old and rebuilt them. Good times. |
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Quoted: Batteries in a UPS are a replacement item. Expect to replace them generally every 2-5 years. I have 2 of these http://www.amazon.com/APC-Smart-UPS-SMT1000-1000VA-System/dp/B002MZUNXU and they work quite well. that's way out of my budget for $400, why is it so expensive? Ones I am looking at are under $200 - I'm not Tier 1  |
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Are you looking for a graceful shutdown, or actual runtime? That's a huge difference
Not a good pic, but you can see the two rackmount Lieberts in my home office pic: http://home.comcast.net/~cjan99999/extinguisher.JPG ETA: I build backup power infrastructure in server rooms for a living, so my question isn't meant to be sarcastic. are you expecting a large fire
Oh, you don't want to get sucked into that particular family drama 
The steps I've taken for fire prevention in my home are...extensive...due to a certain loved ones fear of fire. Quoted:
We just got ours from Batteries Plus. We took the pigtails and fuses off the old and rebuilt them. Good times. Yeah, we just finished several of our APC Symmetras, like these: 
As you know, these units have removable cartridges-each of ours has four battery cartridges and four logic cartridges. One of my junior techs was very (very) enthusiastic about helping out, but he forgot the part where I told him to replace the batteries one at a time so he wouldn't screw up the wiring harness (twelve cells per cartridge). Long story short, my tech pooched the wiring harness and blew one of the large barrel fuses on the inside front of the cartridge. Ever heard one of those fuses blow? Imagine God snapping his fingers-had to practically peel my tech off the ceiling with a spatula
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Batteries in a UPS are a replacement item. Expect to replace them generally every 2-5 years. I have 2 of these http://www.amazon.com/APC-Smart-UPS-SMT1000-1000VA-System/dp/B002MZUNXU and they work quite well. that's way out of my budget for $400, why is it so expensive? Ones I am looking at are under $200 - I'm not Tier 1
Because its a smart ups. It's smart. T does load monitoring, battery monitoring, and has. More clean output than their cheaper back ups line. |
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Are you looking for a graceful shutdown, or actual runtime? That's a huge difference
Not a good pic, but you can see the two rackmount Lieberts in my home office pic: http://home.comcast.net/~cjan99999/extinguisher.JPG ETA: I build backup power infrastructure in server rooms for a living, so my question isn't meant to be sarcastic. are you expecting a large fire
Oh, you don't want to get sucked into that particular family drama
The steps I've taken for fire prevention in my home are...extensive...due to a certain loved ones fear of fire. I have one of those. Does yours rub electric outlets as if there is an invisible hair dryer cord plugged into it? 
She got it from her mother, whose house burned down when she was a girl. We've used APC for years at work with good success. I used to have one with a serial connection to my computer that would shut it down during a power outage. |
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As ARFCOM's Resident Redneck Battery-Modifier, I would be remiss in my duties if I didn't suggest using a large AGM or gell-cell trolling motor battery with your existing UPS. It'll give you much, MUCH longer run-time than the original, puny batteries - very handy for extended power outages.
The modification should be pretty simple - Open the UPS up, remove the old, dead batteries; attach longer battery leads from the UPS to your new trolling motor battery...and you're done. Note that this scheme works best if your UPS runs on some combination of batteries that produces 12 volts - If it runs on 24 volts instead, you'll need two trolling motor batteries connected in series to make it work. Best (biggest) trolling motor battery size is Group 29, 30, or 31 - Next best is Group 27, and least-desirable (smallest) is Group 24. Note that gell-cell or AGM batteries are strongly preferred for this application over conventional, wet-plate batteries - They don't spill corrosive electrolyte, or produce potentially explosive hydrogen gas under normal circumstances. |
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Batteries in a UPS are a replacement item. Expect to replace them generally every 2-5 years. I have 2 of these http://www.amazon.com/APC-Smart-UPS-SMT1000-1000VA-System/dp/B002MZUNXU and they work quite well. Although don't just look for the manufacturer for replacements. We got new batteries from a local vendor for half the price. My company would be BANKRUPT is we bought our replacement batteries from the manufacturer. Here is where I buy most of mine http://www.gruberpower.com/ Yep Gruber power is an awesome source. I have been buying from them for a few years. The also make a really good Power wheels replacement battery :D |
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As ARFCOM's Resident Redneck Battery-Modifier, I would be remiss in my duties if I didn't suggest using a large AGM or gell-cell trolling motor battery with your existing UPS. It'll give you much, MUCH longer run-time than the original, puny batteries - very handy for extended power outages. The modification should be pretty simple - Open the UPS up, remove the old, dead batteries; attach longer battery leads from the UPS to your new trolling motor battery...and you're done. Note that this scheme works best if your UPS runs on some combination of batteries that produces 12 volts - If it runs on 24 volts instead, you'll need two trolling motor batteries connected in series to make it work. Best (biggest) trolling motor battery size is Group 29, 30, or 31 - Next best is Group 27, and least-desirable (smallest) is Group 24. The ultimate would be to buy a Prius and run a drop cord out to the garage.
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If you go with the the apc 1500 you can also purchase the extra battery pack.
Battery Pack I have this set up running at two of my client sites and it's been really nice. |
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