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6/8/2008 9:14:40 PM EDT
The .mil always seems to have the super-cool equipment.  But AFAIK they still use those Vietnam era plastic angled-head, D battery lights?   Am I right or do they use a more modern light?  
Please post a pic of current USGI issue if you have one...............
6/8/2008 9:18:01 PM EDT
[#1]
I've never used one of those when I don't have to. But in Basic, AIT, and even some field exercises at my first unit we were required to have them.

I find them to be useless. They're more dim than a liberal from CA.
6/8/2008 9:19:32 PM EDT
[#2]

Quoted:
I've never used one of those when I don't have to. But in Basic, AIT, and even some field exercises at my first unit we were required to have them.


This.


In Basic (OSUT for me) you are required to purchase that crookneck L-shaped flashlight.  You then never use it again in your life as you buy something of quality and durability.
6/8/2008 9:20:30 PM EDT
[#3]
They're dim pieces of shit. However I stuck an LED bulb in mine and now it's a little brighter than normal and it will last for DAYS on two D cell batteries. Perfect emergency light.
6/8/2008 9:21:55 PM EDT
[#4]
We use these. That way we don't have to take our hands off our weapon.

www.surefire.com/maxexp/main/co_disp/displ/prrfnbr/23458/sesent/00

www.surefire.com/maxexp/main/co_disp/displ/prrfnbr/24391/sesent/00

Anything else is bought by the soldier. I bought a Fenix light.
6/8/2008 9:22:23 PM EDT
[#5]
They are supposed to be dim!!!  You also need to have red light filters on it!  The enemy will see you!!!!!

6/8/2008 9:26:00 PM EDT
[#6]
When I deployed with my first unit in 2004, most people in my unit seemed completely unfamiliar with the concept of a good flashlight. We arrived at Camp Virginia, Kuwait at night, and they layed the entire battalion's baggage, duffels, and trunks out in a huge area on the sand. Almost everyone in the battalion was going around trying to identify their bags using those stupid dim angled flashlights or little keychain flashlights that they attached to their DCU's.

Names were written in colored marker on colored plastic tags attached to bags, and everyone was having a hell of a time trying to make out what the tags said. I pulled out my Surefire and found all my stuff standing in one position, shining it over the field. People would look up saying, "WTH is that?!". They were acting like I had the sun in my hand.
6/8/2008 9:26:10 PM EDT
[#7]
I still have one NIB that I got issued during RFI; the damn thing's still in the box and I used Maglites and Surefires instead. The design did not change much since WW2, when the flashlight was first designed and it was made of brass.

6/8/2008 9:32:05 PM EDT
[#8]

Quoted:
We use these. That way we don't have to take our hands off our weapon.

www.surefire.com/maxexp/main/co_disp/displ/prrfnbr/23458/sesent/00

www.surefire.com/maxexp/main/co_disp/displ/prrfnbr/24391/sesent/00

Anything else is bought by the soldier. I bought a Fenix light.


Those are nice, especially the helmet light.

I find it shocking that the .mil has neglected the flashlight?  This seems inconsistent with all the other .mil equipment that is updated?  
6/8/2008 10:35:48 PM EDT
[#9]
We were issued Pelican M6 LEDs before deployin over here, but I brought a Surefire 6P over here. My LED buld broke (fell 50' vertical), and the Surefire has taken quite some abuse as well.
6/9/2008 3:51:06 AM EDT
[#10]
Those angle head lights were always in the bottom of my ruck or in an A-3 bag.  I can't remember a time when I used one.  We always prefered 3 cell mag lites and Surefires once they became affordable.  I also remember alot of guys carried Mini Maglites.  

I was always getting on peoples asses when we needed to be blacked out when they would use a big bright ass light when they were digging in their rucks.

My uncle told me when he was in Vietnam only squad and fire team leaders were allowed to have flashlights to keep their Marines from flicking one on while on LP/OP's and ambushes.  I threated that more than once on night patrols.
6/9/2008 3:55:33 AM EDT
[#11]
I was previously issued a Mini Mag.  Now they issue SureFire G2's for the individual and Pelican M6's for our M4's.