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5/6/2017 9:37:02 AM EDT
Pretty good article here. Search didn't find anything, but I am on mobile. I'm sure the dupe police will be around soon.

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5/6/2017 9:47:38 AM EDT
[#1]
Wow thanks for sharing.
5/6/2017 9:48:09 AM EDT
[#2]
Now they need to somehow test MLOK vs 1913

I alwayd figured MLOK was a better technology than Dickmod, but I can't imagine it being more secure or repeatable than 1913
5/6/2017 9:50:18 AM EDT
[#3]
It has been posted awhile back.

Mlok was much stronger according to LRRP IIRC.

I standardized on picatinny and Mlok because of this test.
5/6/2017 9:50:50 AM EDT
[#4]
So, keymod won.  Cool.
5/6/2017 9:52:40 AM EDT
[#5]
Well this seems like a good waste of money!
5/6/2017 9:57:02 AM EDT
[#6]
But but Noveske ?
5/6/2017 9:58:27 AM EDT
[#7]
I own both, but I prefer keymod because I love the BCM keymod covers and the only thing I attach to my rails is an offset light holder that attaches to the top picatinny.
5/6/2017 9:58:56 AM EDT
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It has been posted awhile back.

Mlok was much stronger according to LRRP IIRC.

I standardized on picatinny and Mlok because of this test.
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I did too but had no idea of this test.

Also, had to laugh, some of the pictures of the attached accessories were picatinny rail chunks. New, meet old.

That said, pic rail requires a heck of a lot more machine work to make than Mlok does. Just thought it was humorous.
5/6/2017 10:00:18 AM EDT
[#9]
Picatinny quads are a good bit heavier too.
5/6/2017 10:00:58 AM EDT
[#10]
They both have good and bad.  

Keymod allowed for faster repeatable attachment while M-lok is stronger and more stable once attached.

I don't really think that there is a wrong answer here, as long as you pick your devil and accept it.  

I honestly wouldn't be bothered by either, as I think the weight loss over 1913 rails is a bigger benefit from either Keymod or M-lok (I also HATE HATE HATE rails on my hand guard).

But yes, for hard-core military use.....mlok seems superior.  For my uses, I just buy whichever one is cheaper at the time I'm buying the stuff for that build.  So far, that's been keymod.  It's worked well for me so far.
5/6/2017 10:01:31 AM EDT
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It has been posted awhile back.

Mlok was much stronger according to LRRP IIRC.

I standardized on picatinny and Mlok because of this test.
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This came? out on the fourth... Maybe updated from the one you are referring too.

ThanksDouglas
5/6/2017 10:03:02 AM EDT
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I did too but had no idea of this test.

Also, had to laugh, some of the pictures of the attached accessories were picatinny rail chunks. New, meet old.

That said, pic rail requires a heck of a lot more machine work to make than Mlok does. Just thought it was humorous.
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The rail chunks are the entire point in some ways.  I want rails where I want to mount stuff, and nowhere else.  Direct attach stuff is better, but having the ability to use backwards compatibility for 1913 rail accessories is a damn nice feature.  

The entire point of these other systems over 1913 rails is to reduce weight and get rid of the cheese-grater problem of 1913 rails everywhere but still be able to mount stuff anywhere.  I also appreciate the reduction in effective diameter of the hand guard in comparison to a 1913 hand guard + rail covers.
5/6/2017 10:04:19 AM EDT
[#13]
I can't have dicks on my rail.
5/6/2017 10:07:57 AM EDT
[#14]
The Marine Corps would have chosen dickmod, primarily because of dicks.
5/6/2017 10:09:05 AM EDT
[#15]
http://soldiersystems.net/2017/03/31/ussocom-selects-m-lok-for-weapon-programs/

There was a thread based of this article I think here and another board I'm on.

I think Keymod would suit my needs strength wise but I want to be able to swap accessories from any gun to another so no choice but to standardize.
5/6/2017 10:26:02 AM EDT
[#16]
Not enough metal between penises.

If the senior designer was, at the least, a half-assed mechanical engineer he would have spotted the obvious.

The KeyMod would have won if someone in the mix hadn't taken wood shop as their highest free elective.
5/6/2017 10:29:32 AM EDT
[#17]
Thanks for the link.  Good info, and not what I would've expected.
5/6/2017 11:15:16 AM EDT
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5/7/2017 3:42:11 AM EDT
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I did too but had no idea of this test.

Also, had to laugh, some of the pictures of the attached accessories were picatinny rail chunks. New, meet old.

That said, pic rail requires a heck of a lot more machine work to make than Mlok does. Just thought it was humorous.
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It has been posted awhile back.

Mlok was much stronger according to LRRP IIRC.

I standardized on picatinny and Mlok because of this test.
I did too but had no idea of this test.

Also, had to laugh, some of the pictures of the attached accessories were picatinny rail chunks. New, meet old.

That said, pic rail requires a heck of a lot more machine work to make than Mlok does. Just thought it was humorous.
I dont get why you find that humorous.  All the military will probably use in the begining is 1913 rails attached to mlok to be compatiable with all their 1913 gear.

As far as I know the onky major accesory are grips and finger stops that dont need rails.  The mikitary uses a lot more then that on their rail.
5/7/2017 3:48:45 AM EDT
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So.... you people want the mil to go from having ONE qd system, to having two.

Until you don't have to have rail segments on hand, or you can do the qd method on top of an AR receiver, they'd be worse off going to either mlok or keymod.
5/7/2017 3:58:29 AM EDT
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So.... you people want the mil to go from having ONE qd system, to having two.

Until you don't have to have rail segments on hand, or you can do the qd method on top of an AR receiver, they'd be worse off going to either mlok or keymod.
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but but ounces. you are appealing to the logic of 300 pound land whales that want to shave every ounce off a rifle they will never hump past the 25 yard line of whatever "class" they are taking.
5/7/2017 4:07:36 AM EDT
[#22]
In for the autistic screeching butthurt.
5/7/2017 4:23:26 AM EDT
[#23]
For as long as they run a 6" hand guard with 3 things attached to it, it doesn't matter how that clusterfuck is put together.
5/7/2017 4:37:57 AM EDT
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but but ounces. you are appealing to the logic of 300 pound land whales that want to shave every ounce off a rifle they will never hump past the 25 yard line of whatever "class" they are taking.
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So.... you people want the mil to go from having ONE qd system, to having two.

Until you don't have to have rail segments on hand, or you can do the qd method on top of an AR receiver, they'd be worse off going to either mlok or keymod.
but but ounces. you are appealing to the logic of 300 pound land whales that want to shave every ounce off a rifle they will never hump past the 25 yard line of whatever "class" they are taking.
We prefer the term terrestrial porpoise.
5/7/2017 4:57:54 AM EDT
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but but ounces. you are appealing to the logic of 300 pound land whales that want to shave every ounce off a rifle they will never hump past the 25 yard line of whatever "class" they are taking.
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5/7/2017 9:29:36 AM EDT
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I dont get why you find that humorous.  All the military will probably use in the begining is 1913 rails attached to mlok to be compatiable with all their 1913 gear.

As far as I know the onky major accesory are grips and finger stops that dont need rails.  The mikitary uses a lot more then that on their rail.
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It has been posted awhile back.

Mlok was much stronger according to LRRP IIRC.

I standardized on picatinny and Mlok because of this test.
I did too but had no idea of this test.

Also, had to laugh, some of the pictures of the attached accessories were picatinny rail chunks. New, meet old.

That said, pic rail requires a heck of a lot more machine work to make than Mlok does. Just thought it was humorous.
I dont get why you find that humorous.  All the military will probably use in the begining is 1913 rails attached to mlok to be compatiable with all their 1913 gear.

As far as I know the onky major accesory are grips and finger stops that dont need rails.  The mikitary uses a lot more then that on their rail.
I appreciate irony. The dickmod and Mlok rails were designed to replace Picatinny but we're still putting pic rail chunks on them. And right in the military document reporting the testing to replace Picatinny you have... a chunk of Picatinny.

But as another poster noted, it's all about only putting the rail where you want it. I get that.

I mean, it's not like I was roflololololing or anything.