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3/28/2008 6:01:27 AM EDT
I just read the article on line... I have my opinion on it....it's negative...any other opinions?
3/28/2008 6:03:13 AM EDT
[#1]
Thanks for the link.

ETA: "Online" is a pretty big place. We need a little direction to know what you're talking about.
3/28/2008 6:04:29 AM EDT
[#2]
I saw this on tv too.  MO is the only state that allows it.  Crazy.  Too young to be doing join manipulations like that.  I could see taking a more traditional Martial Art, but not MMA.
3/28/2008 6:05:26 AM EDT
[#3]

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Thanks for the link.

ETA: "Online" is a pretty big place. We need a little direction to know what you're talking about.

www.youtube.com/watch?v=RJZFZ5HEWfo
3/28/2008 6:05:30 AM EDT
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and they say video games promote violence, lulz.
3/28/2008 6:06:30 AM EDT
[#5]

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Thanks for the link.

ETA: "Online" is a pretty big place. We need a little direction to know what you're talking about.

www.youtube.com/watch?v=RJZFZ5HEWfo


usatoday.feedroom.com/index.jsp?fr_story=FRdamp262365&rf=rss

All I did was google kids in cage fight.
3/28/2008 6:07:58 AM EDT
[#6]
Here is the 4th link after that google search.  So far we have the first link, the third think and now the fourth.

www.thedenverchannel.com/sports/15722138/detail.html?rss=den&psp=sports

Spoon fed enough for you?
3/28/2008 6:10:59 AM EDT
[#7]
Not sure I'm in love with the idea of joint locks on kids that age. Seems like inviting trouble. Otherwise big ass gloves make it about like what my kid and his little buddy were doing in the front yard last year for fun.

But yeah, as a concept, not enthralled with the idea. I figure there's a point where it can be a legitimate sporting/competitive endeavor, but that's a gray line about a mile wide. For sure the line stops at 18, but where it starts...
3/28/2008 6:12:50 AM EDT
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Spoon fed enough for you?


Didn't realize it was lunch. Can I play the game, too? I'll find something on the internet that I want to talk about, drop a hint about the topic in a thread, and then you can go find it. It'll be like a scavenger hunt!
3/28/2008 6:12:50 AM EDT
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I saw this on tv too.  MO is the only state that allows it.  Crazy.  Too young to be doing join manipulations like that.  I could see taking a more traditional Martial Art, but not MMA.


i love how the media brings shit like this out like they're blowing the lid on a new sport, but this has evidently started long ago....
i don't see what's wrong with it! if kids can play football, wrestle, box, and ESPECIALLY take karate, then hell, why not teach them at once?!?!?!
3/28/2008 6:13:29 AM EDT
[#10]

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Not sure I'm in love with the idea of joint locks on kids that age. Seems like inviting trouble. Otherwise big ass gloves make it about like what my kid and his little buddy were doing in the front yard last year for fun.

But yeah, as a concept, not enthralled with the idea. I figure there's a point where it can be a legitimate sporting/competitive endeavor, but that's a gray line about a mile wide. For sure the line stops at 18, but where it starts...


One of the video clips they showed on tv was one kid picking up the other and dropping him on his head.  They looked to be about 10 years old.  Even with pads thats not a good thing.

What age to you get to wrestle?  High school right?  Even then there are no joint manipulations I dont think (not a wrestler).
3/28/2008 6:14:31 AM EDT
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Spoon fed enough for you?


Didn't realize it was lunch. Can I play the game, too? I'll find something on the internet that I want to talk about, drop a hint about the topic in a thread, and then you can go find it. It'll be like a scavenger hunt!


From the looks of this thread, I would win.  You were not able to do it.
3/28/2008 6:16:34 AM EDT
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What age to you get to wrestle?  High school right?  


Actually, my nephew is in Kindergarten, and he's in the local area youth wrestling program. You wanna talk about psycho sports parents, wrestling parents are even worse than hockey moms. Glad I never got my kid into it.

3/28/2008 6:16:36 AM EDT
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I saw this on tv too.  MO is the only state that allows it.  Crazy.  Too young to be doing join manipulations like that.  I could see taking a more traditional Martial Art, but not MMA.


i love how the media brings shit like this out like they're blowing the lid on a new sport, but this has evidently started long ago....
i don't see what's wrong with it! if kids can play football, wrestle, box, and ESPECIALLY take karate, then hell, why not teach them at once?!?!?!


Because MMA is an honorless bloodsport that promotes feral violence instead of teamwork, respect and discipline like the other activities you mentioned?
3/28/2008 6:18:30 AM EDT
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What age to you get to wrestle?  High school right?  


Actually, my nephew is in Kindergarten, and he's in the local area youth wrestling program. You wanna talk about psycho sports parents, wrestling parents are even worse than hockey moms. Glad I never got my kid into it.



Man, I dont know then.  Its like you said, BIG gray area.  Kindergarten would be too young for my taste for wrestling though.
3/28/2008 6:18:44 AM EDT
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Spoon fed enough for you?


Didn't realize it was lunch. Can I play the game, too? I'll find something on the internet that I want to talk about, drop a hint about the topic in a thread, and then you can go find it. It'll be like a scavenger hunt!


From the looks of this thread, I would win.  You were not able to do it.


I'm your Google-bitch. Please be gentle.
3/28/2008 6:19:25 AM EDT
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Spoon fed enough for you?


Didn't realize it was lunch. Can I play the game, too? I'll find something on the internet that I want to talk about, drop a hint about the topic in a thread, and then you can go find it. It'll be like a scavenger hunt!


From the looks of this thread, I would win.  You were not able to do it.


I'm your Google-bitch. Please be gentle.


You want lube?
3/28/2008 6:21:37 AM EDT
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What age to you get to wrestle?  High school right?  


Actually, my nephew is in Kindergarten, and he's in the local area youth wrestling program. You wanna talk about psycho sports parents, wrestling parents are even worse than hockey moms. Glad I never got my kid into it.



Man, I dont know then.  Its like you said, BIG gray area.  Kindergarten would be too young for my taste for wrestling though.


Me too. I started wrestling in 7th grade (back in the 80's) and I was so far behind the learning curve that it SUCKED. Everyone else had been wrestling since about 3rd grade, and like about everything else, it's pushing younger and younger to get the competitive advantage. Think Tiger Woods @ 3 years old on Leno (or was it still Carson?). Strong arguments to be made that kids sports are getting out of control.
3/28/2008 6:28:26 AM EDT
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I saw this on tv too.  MO is the only state that allows it.  Crazy.  Too young to be doing join manipulations like that.  I could see taking a more traditional Martial Art, but not MMA.


i love how the media brings shit like this out like they're blowing the lid on a new sport, but this has evidently started long ago....
i don't see what's wrong with it! if kids can play football, wrestle, box, and ESPECIALLY take karate, then hell, why not teach them at once?!?!?!


Because MMA is an honorless bloodsport that promotes feral violence instead of teamwork, respect and discipline like the other activities you mentioned?


I would disagree with that characterization. The "downside" as I see it is that it tends to attract dipshits and thugs at a higher rate than say triathlons. But there is a hell of a lot of teamwork in the training, and respect and discipline are the same or higher than any other sport. There might be trash-talking idiots, but they're either trash-talking to market themselves or their fight, or they've always been trash-talking idiots.

But to circle back, I think that MMA for 6 year olds is as fucked as golden gloves boxing is for 6 year olds. Not comfortable with the idea.
3/28/2008 6:34:32 AM EDT
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What age to you get to wrestle?  High school right?  


Actually, my nephew is in Kindergarten, and he's in the local area youth wrestling program. You wanna talk about psycho sports parents, wrestling parents are even worse than hockey moms. Glad I never got my kid into it.



Man, I dont know then.  Its like you said, BIG gray area.  Kindergarten would be too young for my taste for wrestling though.


Me too. I started wrestling in 7th grade (back in the 80's) and I was so far behind the learning curve that it SUCKED. Everyone else had been wrestling since about 3rd grade, and like about everything else, it's pushing younger and younger to get the competitive advantage. Think Tiger Woods @ 3 years old on Leno (or was it still Carson?). Strong arguments to be made that kids sports are getting out of control.


There is no way most kids know what they want to do at that age.  The parents are just living vicariously through them at that point.  3 years old?  Damn that is barely out of diapers.  And with contact sports the potential for injury is so much higher with young kids.    Especially head injuries.  

If you kid has to start wrestling at kindergarten to be competitive, do you really want them to be that competitive?
3/28/2008 6:39:17 AM EDT
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What age to you get to wrestle?  High school right?  


Actually, my nephew is in Kindergarten, and he's in the local area youth wrestling program. You wanna talk about psycho sports parents, wrestling parents are even worse than hockey moms. Glad I never got my kid into it.



Man, I dont know then.  Its like you said, BIG gray area.  Kindergarten would be too young for my taste for wrestling though.


Me too. I started wrestling in 7th grade (back in the 80's) and I was so far behind the learning curve that it SUCKED. Everyone else had been wrestling since about 3rd grade, and like about everything else, it's pushing younger and younger to get the competitive advantage. Think Tiger Woods @ 3 years old on Leno (or was it still Carson?). Strong arguments to be made that kids sports are getting out of control.


There is no way most kids know what they want to do at that age.  The parents are just living vicariously through them at that point.  3 years old?  Damn that is barely out of diapers.  And with contact sports the potential for injury is so much higher with young kids.    Especially head injuries.  

If you kid has to start wrestling at kindergarten to be competitive, do you really want them to be that competitive?


Nope. I looked into that same wrestling deal that my nephew is now in, but I just wasn't comfortable with it because it was all so damn psycho-competitive. A kid can go to karate and learn karate. A kid goes to wrestling and there's 2 coaches wandering around, and about 50 parents circling the room yelling at their kids. I thought it was really kinda fucked up. I think my brother in law kinda feels the same way, I'll be curious to see if they do it again next year. His wife comes from a huge wrestling family, so I think that's where it came from.
I did get him into motocross @ 4, but I was ok with him being slow as hell. By the time he was 8, he had been there, done that. Now he's just turned 10 and taking some guitar lessons and other more normal kid stuff.
3/28/2008 6:48:36 AM EDT
[#21]
Can't wait to sign my son and daughter up!  
3/28/2008 6:51:39 AM EDT
[#22]
doesn't really seem like a good idea.
3/28/2008 6:55:31 AM EDT
[#23]
I see no problem with it. No different than putting a kid in karate. ie: Taekwondo, etc...
They have on pads, and it is supervised with rules. If I had a son I'd sign him up.
3/28/2008 7:01:20 AM EDT
[#24]
yep.......

American parents.....Come on Johnny time to go to your fighting lessen.

Most other parents of the world......Study...study...study....

and we wonder why are kids don't compare to well to other countries kids.
3/28/2008 1:21:44 PM EDT
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Sorry for not putting down the original sourse where I got it..it was on the COmcast media site coverpage. When I tried to post it it will not allow me to. Sorry for the oversight and causing a scavenger hunt for you.......but then you liked the neighborhood easter egg hunt on Sunday so much I thought you would be into the search.