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2/2/2009 5:35:20 PM EDT
I recently traded for a pre-ban Bushmaster lower that does not have a prefix before the serial number. The guy I got it from said Bushmaster offered him a complete rifle (about 15 years ago) if he would return the lower to them.

As I understand it, all Bushmaster ARs have always had a prefix before the number.

Does anyone else have one like this?

2/2/2009 5:39:40 PM EDT
[#1]
relevant to my interests
2/2/2009 5:40:43 PM EDT
[#2]



New rifle for a lower and he said "'no"....then sold it to you????????

2/2/2009 5:41:57 PM EDT
[#3]
It's gonna KB!
2/2/2009 5:44:09 PM EDT
[#4]
It's a Chinese airsoft copy.  They will copy almost anything.  

Looks like they screwed up when stamping the number.  Kind of neat.
2/2/2009 5:44:42 PM EDT
[#5]
Why would they replace it?  Mis-struck serial number?

Kharn
2/2/2009 5:47:48 PM EDT
[#6]
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New rifle for a lower and he said "'no"....then sold it to you????????



What makes you so sure I didn't make him a better offer?
2/2/2009 6:02:19 PM EDT
[#7]
i don't see what's unusual...
2/2/2009 6:16:13 PM EDT
[#8]
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i don't see what's unusual...


IIRC, serials are required to contain letters as well as numbers. per GCA 68.


someone will be along to correct me...
2/2/2009 6:19:00 PM EDT
[#9]
It's got to be a mistake.

May be worth something some day?
2/2/2009 6:20:22 PM EDT
[#10]
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New rifle for a lower and he said "'no"....then sold it to you????????



What makes you so sure I didn't make him a better offer?



I was about to ask "how much did you pay for it?"

Now, I'm not sure I want to know....
2/2/2009 6:22:27 PM EDT
[#11]
Pretty cool, but the last thing you need is the ATF finding out and taking it away from you because it's not serialized correctly. That would suck hardcore. I'd call BM and see if they'd trade you a complete rifle for it again.
2/2/2009 6:23:09 PM EDT
[#12]



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Pretty cool, but the last thing you need is the ATF finding out and taking it away from you because it's not serialized correctly. That would suck hardcore. I'd call BM and see if they'd trade you a complete rifle for it again.






 
2/2/2009 6:25:34 PM EDT
[#13]
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Pretty cool, but the last thing you need is the ATF finding out and taking it away from you because it's not serialized correctly. That would suck hardcore. I'd call BM and see if they'd trade you a complete rifle for it again.


 



Why not two? Hell, it was worth one rifle to them 15 years ago
2/2/2009 6:28:43 PM EDT
[#14]
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i don't see what's unusual...


IIRC, serials are required to contain letters as well as numbers. per GCA 68.


someone will be along to correct me...


I have a lower that has a serial number that is all letters.
2/2/2009 6:30:52 PM EDT
[#15]
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i don't see what's unusual...


IIRC, serials are required to contain letters as well as numbers. per GCA 68.


someone will be along to correct me...


Does that pertain to suppressors as well?
2/2/2009 6:33:25 PM EDT
[#16]
Do what?
2/2/2009 6:33:55 PM EDT
[#17]
I'm going to contact BM, I just wanted to see if anyone here had seen one with no prefix before doing so.

I wasn't sure if it was common or not for a few to be out there.

I'm going to the lake in the near future, hopefully there will be no boating accidents.
2/2/2009 6:35:02 PM EDT
[#18]
Quoted:
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i don't see what's unusual...


IIRC, serials are required to contain letters as well as numbers. per GCA 68.


someone will be along to correct me...


I have a lower that has a serial number that is all letters.


Off the top of my head, I can't think of a single firearm in my collection that has letters in the serial number; just numbers.

Also have a pre-'68 shotgun with no serial number on it at all; they weren't required by law before then, and all the pre-'68 guns with no serials are still legal.
2/2/2009 6:35:26 PM EDT
[#19]
I'm afraid to ask how much you overpaid for a 15yo lower.
2/2/2009 6:37:49 PM EDT
[#20]
Quoted:
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i don't see what's unusual...


IIRC, serials are required to contain letters as well as numbers. per GCA 68.


someone will be along to correct me...



Not sure if the GCA says that or not, but all of my Rugers don't have any letters. Revolvers, high quality semi P89, mark 22s, or any of the mini 14s. Maybe they are exempt
2/2/2009 6:39:04 PM EDT
[#21]
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I recently traded for a pre-ban Bushmaster lower that does not have a prefix before the serial number. The guy I got it from said Bushmaster offered him a complete rifle (about 15 years ago) if he would return the lower to them.

Does anyone else have one like this?

http://i187.photobucket.com/albums/x318/IndianJoe_photos/IMG_0217-1.jpg


Hope you DIDN'T pay extra.

The SN# of a gun can be anything in english. Letters are usually used by the factory just to cut down on the # of digits needed to stamp.
If you have a yearly run of say, 99,000, It is cheaper to go B00001 in year two than to buy a new machine that stamps 1,000,000 in 10 years.

ETA: It's also very a convenient way for the MFG to keep track of the year of FMG for warranty purposes.
2/2/2009 6:57:56 PM EDT
[#22]
Quoted:
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i don't see what's unusual...


IIRC, serials are required to contain letters as well as numbers. per GCA 68.


someone will be along to correct me...


I have a lower that has a serial number that is all letters.


My USPc only has numbers
2/2/2009 7:49:02 PM EDT
[#23]



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i don't see what's unusual...




IIRC, serials are required to contain letters as well as numbers. per GCA 68.





someone will be along to correct me...




I have a lower that has a serial number that is all letters.




My USPc only has numbers
So does the FS-T on my desk.





 
2/2/2009 7:54:14 PM EDT
[#24]
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So does the FS-T on my desk.

 


and as said pretty much evrerthing ruger makes
2/2/2009 8:12:51 PM EDT
[#25]



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i don't see what's unusual...




IIRC, serials are required to contain letters as well as numbers. per GCA 68.





someone will be along to correct me...
lolwut.jpg





 
2/2/2009 8:29:15 PM EDT
[#26]
I understand that many manufactures use only numbers, however I was asking only about Bushmaster AR serial numbers.

As I understand it, all Bushmaster ARs have always had a prefix before the number.

It's really no big deal, but if anyone has any factual info to dispute or verify this, please let me know.
2/3/2009 8:08:37 AM EDT
[#27]
I spoke with Jared (sp?) at Bushmaster today, and he confirmed that all Bushmaster rifles definitely have "L" or "BFI" before the serial number.

Apparently this has to be a mistake made by the person stamping the receiver, making this lower possibly one of a kind.

Mystery solved.
2/3/2009 8:28:14 AM EDT
[#28]
I take it he didnt offer you ther same offer as your buddy?
2/3/2009 8:40:59 AM EDT
[#29]
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I spoke with Jared (sp?) at Bushmaster today, and he confirmed that all Bushmaster rifles definitely have "L" or "BFI" before the serial number.



The L prefix ones are made by LAR if I recall correctly.  Maybe the OP has a very early Bushmaster?

2/3/2009 8:44:33 AM EDT
[#30]
Hmmm - if they offered a complete rifle in return you might check and see if the SN is in the NFA registry.  That would be a stroke of luck.
2/3/2009 8:52:40 AM EDT
[#31]
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i don't see what's unusual...


IIRC, serials are required to contain letters as well as numbers. per GCA 68.


someone will be along to correct me...


No such requirement.  Look at the s/n on a Ruger.
2/3/2009 8:59:58 AM EDT
[#32]
I have two "BFI"s and three "L" prefixes; no serials without letters.
2/3/2009 9:00:43 AM EDT
[#33]
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I take it he didnt offer you ther same offer as your buddy?


The conversation was short and sweet....

BM- Hello, this is Jared.

Me- Hi, I recently acquired a BM lower with a serial number showing no prefix, is this common?

BM- Every BM AR lower ever made has "L" or "BFI" as a prefix.

Me- Are you sure?

BM- Absolutely positive.

Me- Thank you, have a nice day.

2/3/2009 9:00:48 AM EDT
[#34]
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Hmmm - if they offered a complete rifle in return you might check and see if the SN is in the NFA registry.  That would be a stroke of VERY BAD luck.


Fixed it for ya.
2/3/2009 9:12:09 AM EDT
[#35]




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I take it he didnt offer you ther same offer as your buddy?




The conversation was short and sweet....



BM- Hello, this is Jared.



Me- Hi, I recently acquired a BM lower with a serial number showing no prefix, is this common?



BM- Every BM AR lower ever made has "L" or "BFI" as a prefix.



Me- Are you sure?



BM- Absolutely positive.



Me- Thank you, have a nice day.





If it were me, that conversation would have had at least 2 more questions before the "thank you, have a nice day."

2/3/2009 9:19:56 AM EDT
[#36]
Quoted:
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I take it he didnt offer you ther same offer as your buddy?


The conversation was short and sweet....

BM- Hello, this is Jared.

Me- Hi, I recently acquired a BM lower with a serial number showing no prefix, is this common?

BM- Every BM AR lower ever made has "L" or "BFI" as a prefix.

Me- Are you sure?

BM- Absolutely positive.

Me- Thank you, have a nice day.



"The lower I have has no prefix, do you know of anyone who may be able to tell me about its history?"

2/3/2009 9:23:38 AM EDT
[#37]
So now you know HALF the story...Call them back, we want to know what you have!
2/3/2009 9:29:35 AM EDT
[#38]




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So now you know HALF the story...Call them back, we want to know what you have!




+1 give them another call back! MOAR details!
2/3/2009 9:30:10 AM EDT
[#39]
Any chance it's counterfeit?
2/3/2009 11:42:42 AM EDT
[#40]
I spoke to customer service, the rep asked me to send a pic, and they would research the lower.

Most everyone I've talked to about this agrees it is probably a mis-stamp.

If it was counterfeit, there would have been more than one show up in the last fifteen years. The stampings are exactly like my other BMs other than the missing prefix.

I'll update as soon as I hear back from BM.