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11/9/2009 10:38:19 AM EDT
Damn, how long do the last with all that extra weight? Seems like it would be hell on the suspension.



Is that a block of chobham armor on the door?
11/9/2009 10:40:50 AM EDT
[#1]
I was going to buy a new f350, but if I could get financing i'll take one of those instead.
11/9/2009 10:41:06 AM EDT
[#2]
Fap, fap . . .
11/9/2009 10:41:56 AM EDT
[#3]
Quoted:
Damn, how long do the last with all that extra weight? Seems like it would be hell on the suspension.

http://i33.tinypic.com/i2kf4i.jpg

Is that a block of chobham armor on the door?


Can I have one in matte black?  Thanks.  
11/9/2009 10:42:49 AM EDT
[#4]
Quoted:
Damn, how long do the last with all that extra weight? Seems like it would be hell on the suspension.

http://i33.tinypic.com/i2kf4i.jpg

Is that a block of chobham armor on the door?


Dunno, but it looks like they are some type of storage to me.  Looks like there are some latches on those boxes.
11/9/2009 10:43:11 AM EDT
[#5]
Daddy want !  
11/9/2009 10:43:11 AM EDT
[#6]
god damn
11/9/2009 10:43:19 AM EDT
[#7]
Gunner kinda looks like he's pinching one off.  
11/9/2009 10:43:36 AM EDT
[#8]




Quoted:

Fap, fap . . .




Exactly.
11/9/2009 10:46:04 AM EDT
[#9]
Quoted:
Damn, how long do the last with all that extra weight? Seems like it would be hell on the suspension.

http://i33.tinypic.com/i2kf4i.jpg

Is that a block of chobham armor on the door?


I was wondering trhe same thing about the doors. Those must be a bitch to get open.

How well did they reinforce underneath? I think this was the main part that REALLY needed it.
11/9/2009 10:47:40 AM EDT
[#10]
Quoted:
Quoted:
Damn, how long do the last with all that extra weight? Seems like it would be hell on the suspension.

http://i33.tinypic.com/i2kf4i.jpg

Is that a block of chobham armor on the door?


I was wondering trhe same thing about the doors. Those must be a bitch to get open.

How well did they reinforce underneath? I think this was the main part that REALLY needed it.


I think they have some sort of hydraulic assistor.
11/9/2009 10:49:13 AM EDT
[#11]
Anyone know what it weighs in at?  My guess is around 7 tons.
11/9/2009 10:49:58 AM EDT
[#12]
Quoted:
Damn, how long do the last with all that extra weight? Seems like it would be hell on the suspension.

http://i33.tinypic.com/i2kf4i.jpg

Is that a block of chobham armor on the door?


They are hell on suspension parts when riding at the standard 3.5 ton gross weight.
Uncle Sam buys all their parts though.


Mine is going to be raodworthy in about 4 weeks, just in time for my Mens Weekend trip
11/9/2009 10:50:33 AM EDT
[#13]
That thing must have a bad ass suspension system in order to handle that load.
11/9/2009 10:51:03 AM EDT
[#14]
Talk about top heavy...

I'll take 5
11/9/2009 10:52:19 AM EDT
[#15]
Is that a Frag 7 kit?
11/9/2009 10:57:01 AM EDT
[#16]
Thats an 1151 with a frag 6 uparmour kit with a DAM kit for hydraulic door openers (top of the door), the door boxes are not storage, just stacked ballistic glass.
11/9/2009 10:57:25 AM EDT
[#17]
uuummmmmm this thing doesn't have automatic windows....like....oh my god....
11/9/2009 10:57:36 AM EDT
[#18]





Quoted:






Seems like it would be hell on the suspension.











It is.





As for the doors, the ones on our Cougars were not assisted. Really sucked to have one slam on my leg while we were parked on an embankment






 
11/9/2009 10:59:31 AM EDT
[#19]
Damn Frag 5 looks downright svelte - hadnt seen Frag 6. jeebus.

Theres your case for  MRAVs
11/9/2009 11:00:32 AM EDT
[#20]
Quoted:

Is that a block of chobham armor on the door?


No silly...........beer coolers

11/9/2009 11:00:54 AM EDT
[#21]
Quoted:
Thats an 1151 with a frag 6 uparmour kit with a DAM kit for hydraulic door openers (top of the door), the door boxes are not storage, just stacked ballistic glass.


I read someone in Iraq found out the armored glass would break up or stop some EFPs. Is thats what its for?
11/9/2009 11:01:41 AM EDT
[#22]
My God....it's full of awesome
11/9/2009 11:02:09 AM EDT
[#23]
Wayyyyy too much for that 6.5L or 6.2L to kick around. Those trucks are seriously outside their designated role with that much weight on them.
11/9/2009 11:02:17 AM EDT
[#24]
Quoted:
My God....it's full of awesome


Yes.............yes it is.
11/9/2009 11:02:36 AM EDT
[#25]
Hell, if I had the money to buy it and feed it, I'd get me one of these:



Textron M1117 Guardian (no doubt named after the book series that made the "V-450 SuperCommando" famous).

That's a .50 BMG mounted alongside a 40mm Grenade Launcher.
11/9/2009 11:04:42 AM EDT
[#26]
Multi-purpose vehicle.

Drivew it to the range, spray paint some targets on the door, shoot it, then drive home.

11/9/2009 11:05:25 AM EDT
[#27]
Quoted:
Quoted:
Thats an 1151 with a frag 6 uparmour kit with a DAM kit for hydraulic door openers (top of the door), the door boxes are not storage, just stacked ballistic glass.


I read someone in Iraq found out the armored glass would break up or stop some EFPs. Is thats what its for?


I'm sure it helps...

11/9/2009 11:05:56 AM EDT
[#28]
Better not leave the hardball with that mother fucker bet ya it goes axle deep in 3 seconds flat.
11/9/2009 11:06:55 AM EDT
[#29]
No MRAP no care
11/9/2009 11:07:01 AM EDT
[#30]
Quoted:
Quoted:
Thats an 1151 with a frag 6 uparmour kit with a DAM kit for hydraulic door openers (top of the door), the door boxes are not storage, just stacked ballistic glass.


I read someone in Iraq found out the armored glass would break up or stop some EFPs. Is thats what its for?


I hope that if anyone knows that answer, they also have enough sense not to answer.  Let the bad guys figure it out on their own.
11/9/2009 11:07:22 AM EDT
[#31]
Meh...the SOCOM Block II M-1165 is the latest and greatest gun truck. 14,500 GVW, and still hauls ass.
11/9/2009 11:07:37 AM EDT
[#32]
Quoted:
Wayyyyy too much for that 6.5L or 6.2L to kick around. Those trucks are seriously outside their designated role with that much weight on them.


I agree, but there have been quite a few improvements to the 6.5 turbo in the past couple years. Its up to around 300 horse, but you have to remeber this thing was not designed to get over 55mph.

11/9/2009 11:09:05 AM EDT
[#33]
Quoted:
Hell, if I had the money to buy it and feed it, I'd get me one of these:

http://www.military-today.com/apc/m1117_guardian.jpg

Textron M1117 Guardian (no doubt named after the book series that made the "V-450 SuperCommando" famous).

That's a .50 BMG mounted alongside a 40mm Grenade Launcher.


I thought I was the only one that read those books.
11/9/2009 11:09:15 AM EDT
[#34]
Do the Bradleys or other IFVs fare better?

Seems to defeat the purpose of a light and fast scout car, when you load it down with all that stuff and force ppl to use it in a role it wasn't intended.
11/9/2009 11:10:29 AM EDT
[#35]
Quoted:
Hell, if I had the money to buy it and feed it, I'd get me one of these:

http://www.military-today.com/apc/m1117_guardian.jpg

Textron M1117 Guardian (no doubt named after the book series that made the "V-450 SuperCommando" famous).

That's a .50 BMG mounted alongside a 40mm Grenade Launcher.


That would probably be superior vehicle to the monstrosities the humvees have been turned into.  They took what was originally intended to be a light transport vehicle and turned it into an armored personnel carrier that only carries 4 guys counting the driver

I'm all for protecting our troops, but at least use a platform intended for the role instead of spending millions to slap armor plates on a vehicle not designed for it.
11/9/2009 11:11:29 AM EDT
[#36]
I definatlly want one. I almost had my hands on a H1 a few years ago that was a .mil sold at an auction and a friend of the family bought it there.
I was able to drive it and I could not get stuck in that thing. Fuckers are badass
11/9/2009 11:11:33 AM EDT
[#37]
Quoted:
Quoted:
Hell, if I had the money to buy it and feed it, I'd get me one of these:

http://www.military-today.com/apc/m1117_guardian.jpg

Textron M1117 Guardian (no doubt named after the book series that made the "V-450 SuperCommando" famous).

That's a .50 BMG mounted alongside a 40mm Grenade Launcher.


I thought I was the only one that read those books.


Nope.

Reading 'em again right now, in fact.
11/9/2009 11:11:57 AM EDT
[#38]
Look ma, 3 miles per gallon
11/9/2009 11:13:04 AM EDT
[#39]
Only the doors on ours in '91 were armored. The schmuck brave soul in the turret was exposed from the waist up. It sucked.
11/9/2009 11:13:20 AM EDT
[#40]
I want one.
11/9/2009 11:13:51 AM EDT
[#41]
ppfffttt........thats not even the frag 7 armor......gay.......
11/9/2009 11:19:39 AM EDT
[#42]
Quoted:
Look ma, 3 miles per gallon


Better than the M-1.

3 gallons per mile.
11/9/2009 11:20:10 AM EDT
[#43]
Quoted:
Quoted:
Hell, if I had the money to buy it and feed it, I'd get me one of these:

http://www.military-today.com/apc/m1117_guardian.jpg

Textron M1117 Guardian (no doubt named after the book series that made the "V-450 SuperCommando" famous).

That's a .50 BMG mounted alongside a 40mm Grenade Launcher.


That would probably be superior vehicle to the monstrosities the humvees have been turned into.  They took what was originally intended to be a light transport vehicle and turned it into an armored personnel carrier that only carries 4 guys counting the driver

I'm all for protecting our troops, but at least use a platform intended for the role instead of spending millions to slap armor plates on a vehicle not designed for it.


Sounds like the development of the Bradley.
11/9/2009 11:25:05 AM EDT
[#44]
Quoted:
Quoted:
Wayyyyy too much for that 6.5L or 6.2L to kick around. Those trucks are seriously outside their designated role with that much weight on them.


I agree, but there have been quite a few improvements to the 6.5 turbo in the past couple years. Its up to around 300 horse, but you have to remeber this thing was not designed to get over 55mph.



They fixed the PMC issue, the turbo leaking issue, the bad head-gasket issue, the weak block issue, the water jacket issue in the heads, and the too-small radiator? These are all things that plagued the 6.2 and 6.5 when they first came out, and then they were only at 150hp or so.  I can only imagine how much hell it would be for them to try and move around 15,000 lbs.
11/9/2009 11:28:17 AM EDT
[#45]
um where do I go to donate my testicles for those. I'd give both!!!

11/9/2009 11:28:25 AM EDT
[#46]
jesus h. theyve come a long way since the hillbilly armor we had on my truck.

i wish like hell i had had some windows in my turret. woulda been a lot less exposed.

fuck driving that thing though. too heavy by half.
11/9/2009 11:28:27 AM EDT
[#47]
Quoted:
Quoted:
Quoted:
Hell, if I had the money to buy it and feed it, I'd get me one of these:

http://www.military-today.com/apc/m1117_guardian.jpg

Textron M1117 Guardian (no doubt named after the book series that made the "V-450 SuperCommando" famous).

That's a .50 BMG mounted alongside a 40mm Grenade Launcher.


I thought I was the only one that read those books.


Nope.

Reading 'em again right now, in fact.


Mobile One!

I reread the series over the summer. Great & fun reading!

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11/9/2009 11:29:06 AM EDT
[#48]
Why do I feel like I'm watching "The Pentagon Wars" in real time?
11/9/2009 11:29:51 AM EDT
[#49]
When I win the Mega millions, it shall be mine.
11/9/2009 11:31:16 AM EDT
[#50]
Quoted:
Quoted:
Quoted:
Wayyyyy too much for that 6.5L or 6.2L to kick around. Those trucks are seriously outside their designated role with that much weight on them.


I agree, but there have been quite a few improvements to the 6.5 turbo in the past couple years. Its up to around 300 horse, but you have to remeber this thing was not designed to get over 55mph.



They fixed the PMC issue, the turbo leaking issue, the bad head-gasket issue, the weak block issue, the water jacket issue in the heads, and the too-small radiator? These are all things that plagued the 6.2 and 6.5 when they first came out, and then they were only at 150hp or so.  I can only imagine how much hell it would be for them to try and move around 15,000 lbs.


I'm not saying that it would be the engine I would pick for the uparmour trucks, but it does a fair job moving the weight. The soldiers always want faster trucks, but with that there is more parts breakage. You have to remember that everyone thinks they can drive, and only a handful can...

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