Posted: 4/2/2014 3:36:51 PM EDT
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North Carolina’s Board of Elections found that tens of thousands of registered voters from the state have personal information matching that of registered voters in other states, and appear to have voted in states other than North Carolina in 2012. In some cases, votes were cast under names of individuals who had passed away before Election Day.
The review searched databases in 27 other states and 101 million voter records for information such as matching names, dates of birth, and Social Security numbers. The review found that 35,570 North Carolina voters from 2012 shared the same first names, last names, and dates of birth with individuals who voted in other states. Another 765 Tar Heel State residents who voted in 2012 had the the same names, birthdays, and final four digits of a Social Security number as voters elsewhere. Link |
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North Carolina’s Board of Elections found that tens of thousands of registered voters from the state have personal information matching that of registered voters in other states, and appear to have voted in states other than North Carolina in 2012. In some cases, votes were cast under names of individuals who had passed away before Election Day.
The review searched databases in 27 other states and 101 million voter records for information such as matching names, dates of birth, and Social Security numbers. The review found that 35,570 North Carolina voters from 2012 shared the same first names, last names, and dates of birth with individuals who voted in other states. Another 765 Tar Heel State residents who voted in 2012 had the the same names, birthdays, and final four digits of a Social Security number as voters elsewhere. Link Wait.. those are radically different numbers. Does that mean they don't have the birthdays and last 4 digits of the other 34,805 potential fraud votes? Because the way it's written, they only found 765 cases of fraud. |
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Wait.. those are radically different numbers. Does that mean they don't have the birthdays and last 4 digits of the other 34,805 potential fraud votes? Because the way it's written, they only found 765 cases of fraud. Quoted:
Wait.. those are radically different numbers. Does that mean they don't have the birthdays and last 4 digits of the other 34,805 potential fraud votes? Because the way it's written, they only found 765 cases of fraud. Not a subset, separate sets. 35,570 + 765 = 36,335 "another" AND: Meanwhile, the election board’s executive director, Kim Westbrook, told lawmakers that 81 deceased North Carolinians apparently voted in 2012 as well. |
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Not a subset, separate sets. 35,570 + 765 = 36,335 "another" Quoted:
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Wait.. those are radically different numbers. Does that mean they don't have the birthdays and last 4 digits of the other 34,805 potential fraud votes? Because the way it's written, they only found 765 cases of fraud. Not a subset, separate sets. 35,570 + 765 = 36,335 "another" Ah, good call. Here's the actual report, by the way. LInk |
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Ain't no grave Gonna hold my body down Ain't no grave Gonna hold my body down Come that election mornin' I'm gonna rise-up out of dis ground Ain't no grave Gonna hold my body down Well, look way down the river And what do you think I see I see a band of Precinct Captains And they're coming after me Well, look down yonder's Sharpton You can hear him on the land and sea Al says, don't you cast your vote Until you hear from me Well meet me, King Barack, meet me Meet me at the middle school poll You won't let them see our ID's So I can vote many times as I please Ain't no grave Gonna hold my body down Ain't no grave Gonna hold my body down |
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Wait.. those are radically different numbers. Does that mean they don't have the birthdays and last 4 digits of the other 34,805 potential fraud votes? Because the way it's written, they only found 765 cases of fraud. Quoted:
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North Carolina’s Board of Elections found that tens of thousands of registered voters from the state have personal information matching that of registered voters in other states, and appear to have voted in states other than North Carolina in 2012. In some cases, votes were cast under names of individuals who had passed away before Election Day.
The review searched databases in 27 other states and 101 million voter records for information such as matching names, dates of birth, and Social Security numbers. The review found that 35,570 North Carolina voters from 2012 shared the same first names, last names, and dates of birth with individuals who voted in other states. Another 765 Tar Heel State residents who voted in 2012 had the the same names, birthdays, and final four digits of a Social Security number as voters elsewhere. Link Wait.. those are radically different numbers. Does that mean they don't have the birthdays and last 4 digits of the other 34,805 potential fraud votes? Because the way it's written, they only found 765 cases of fraud. Still 765 too many. |
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Quoted: North Carolina’s Board of Elections found that tens of thousands of registered voters from the state have personal information matching that of registered voters in other states, and appear to have voted in states other than North Carolina in 2012. In some cases, votes were cast under names of individuals who had passed away before Election Day. The review searched databases in 27 other states and 101 million voter records for information such as matching names, dates of birth, and Social Security numbers. The review found that 35,570 North Carolina voters from 2012 shared the same first names, last names, and dates of birth with individuals who voted in other states. Another 765 Tar Heel State residents who voted in 2012 had the the same names, birthdays, and final four digits of a Social Security number as voters elsewhere. Link  |
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Wait.. those are radically different numbers. Does that mean they don't have the birthdays and last 4 digits of the other 34,805 potential fraud votes? Because the way it's written, they only found 765 cases of fraud. Not a subset, separate sets. 35,570 + 765 = 36,335 "another" Ah, good call. Here's the actual report, by the way. LInk Actual report is worth the read. There are Federal laws that make it difficult to remove these people from the voter rolls. But they have 36k fraudulent votes there. And only 28 states responded to their request. And most of the 'Big ones' did not: Cali, NY, FL, TX... At the end, they're looking at Facial Recognition to reduce the number of fraudulent voters. But that only works in person. |
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With all of the transplants and people with second homes here from up north, how much double voting do you think goes on here in Florida?  The snowbirds from up north all say they are "entitled" to vote in both states and do so because they have a house in each. Not kidding. |
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These cockroaches need to be exterminated. Vote fraud is rampant. Quoted:
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This is fucking with the very foundation of the Republic. Damn right it is.  These cockroaches need to be exterminated. Vote fraud is rampant. No it's not. Voter fraud is much less of a problem than it use to be. There are 765 cases of suspected voter fraud. The other 35k aren't fraud. More investigation needs to be done. Jumping the gun might support your world view, but it's not accurate. |
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No it's not. Voter fraud is much less of a problem than it use to be. There are 765 cases of suspected voter fraud. The other 35k aren't fraud. More investigation needs to be done. Jumping the gun might support your world view, but it's not accurate. Quoted:
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This is fucking with the very foundation of the Republic. Damn right it is. These cockroaches need to be exterminated. Vote fraud is rampant. No it's not. Voter fraud is much less of a problem than it use to be. There are 765 cases of suspected voter fraud. The other 35k aren't fraud. More investigation needs to be done. Jumping the gun might support your world view, but it's not accurate. And lets say those 765 cases are actual fraud. Do you not think that is a problem? Elections are won and lost on closer margins. |
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No it's not. Voter fraud is much less of a problem than it use to be. There are 765 cases of suspected voter fraud. The other 35k aren't fraud. More investigation needs to be done. Jumping the gun might support your world view, but it's not accurate. Quoted:
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This is fucking with the very foundation of the Republic. Damn right it is. These cockroaches need to be exterminated. Vote fraud is rampant. No it's not. Voter fraud is much less of a problem than it use to be. There are 765 cases of suspected voter fraud. The other 35k aren't fraud. More investigation needs to be done. Jumping the gun might support your world view, but it's not accurate. Senator Franken approves of this message. So does Governor Gregoire. |
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And lets say those 765 cases are actual fraud. Do you not think that is a problem? Elections are won and lost on closer margins. Quoted:
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This is fucking with the very foundation of the Republic. Damn right it is. These cockroaches need to be exterminated. Vote fraud is rampant. No it's not. Voter fraud is much less of a problem than it use to be. There are 765 cases of suspected voter fraud. The other 35k aren't fraud. More investigation needs to be done. Jumping the gun might support your world view, but it's not accurate. And lets say those 765 cases are actual fraud. Do you not think that is a problem? Elections are won and lost on closer margins. Of course it's a problem. The ones responsible need to be found and punished. But to think that these 765 votes swung an election is going to require a bit of proof. Unless they all came from the same precinct and all voted for the same candidate for that race, it's going to be really hard for their votes to have been responsible for turning a loss into a victory. I'm also not deluded enough to think that we can stamp out voter fraud completely. It will always be there. What we're looking at, however, is 765 out of ~4.5 MILLION votes. That's 0.017% percent. Don't let perfect become the enemy of good. Or in this case, absolutely outstanding. Perfect is something to strive for, but never delude yourself into thinking that perfection is the only acceptable outcome. That way lies madness. |
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Automatic Mail-in ballots enable a good chunk of this. Eliminate Mail ballots (or do something like require them to be Notarized) and require Voter ID, and most of this will go away. Yea, especially how hard it is to get something notarized. No fraud there. |
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No it's not. Voter fraud is much less of a problem than it use to be. There are 765 cases of suspected voter fraud. The other 35k aren't fraud. More investigation needs to be done. Jumping the gun might support your world view, but it's not accurate. Quoted:
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This is fucking with the very foundation of the Republic. Damn right it is. These cockroaches need to be exterminated. Vote fraud is rampant. No it's not. Voter fraud is much less of a problem than it use to be. There are 765 cases of suspected voter fraud. The other 35k aren't fraud. More investigation needs to be done. Jumping the gun might support your world view, but it's not accurate. Obviously, facts do no matter to you. Al Franken won by 312 votes. We now have an anchor around the neck of the USA called Obamacare. Sure 765 is not a problem. 
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Obviously, facts do no matter to you. Al Franken won by 312 votes. We now have an anchor around the neck of the USA called Obamacare. Sure 765 is not a problem.
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This is fucking with the very foundation of the Republic. Damn right it is. These cockroaches need to be exterminated. Vote fraud is rampant. No it's not. Voter fraud is much less of a problem than it use to be. There are 765 cases of suspected voter fraud. The other 35k aren't fraud. More investigation needs to be done. Jumping the gun might support your world view, but it's not accurate. Obviously, facts do no matter to you. Al Franken won by 312 votes. We now have an anchor around the neck of the USA called Obamacare. Sure 765 is not a problem.
But, what's to be expected from spins. TXL Please quit quoting Snips. I have his idiotic drivel blocked because my blood pressure spikes when I read the special kind of stupidity he spews from his keyboard. Thanks. |
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Obviously, facts do no matter to you. Al Franken won by 312 votes. We now have an anchor around the neck of the USA called Obamacare. Sure 765 is not a problem.
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This is fucking with the very foundation of the Republic. Damn right it is. These cockroaches need to be exterminated. Vote fraud is rampant. No it's not. Voter fraud is much less of a problem than it use to be. There are 765 cases of suspected voter fraud. The other 35k aren't fraud. More investigation needs to be done. Jumping the gun might support your world view, but it's not accurate. Obviously, facts do no matter to you. Al Franken won by 312 votes. We now have an anchor around the neck of the USA called Obamacare. Sure 765 is not a problem.
But, what's to be expected from spins. TXL Maybe you should keep reading the thread? Snips - "But to think that these 765 votes swung an election is going to require a bit of proof. Unless they all came from the same precinct and all voted for the same candidate for that race, it's going to be really hard for their votes to have been responsible for turning a loss into a victory. " PROVE that removing those votes would have changed the outcome of ANY election. I am dealing in facts. The only facts we have right now are 765 likely fraudulent votes. You are the one making allegations that those votes affected elections. Allegations are not facts. They need to be proven first. Edit: And at the moment, we don't even know which side those votes were on. For all you know, they could have resulted in a Republican winning an election he shouldn't have. That's why we wait on actual proof before making claims. At least, those of us who are interested in facts and reality, rather than hyperbole and supporting your own biases. |
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This is a fabrication created by reactionary anti-Party social deviates. The workers in the legitimate media socialist popular front, led by vigilant and dedicated Party cadres, have repeatedly issued Party-approved declarations that so-called "voter fraud" is a lie perpetrated by the bourgeoisie plutocrat fascist class enemies in a vain attempt to de-legitimatize the heroic political work of the Party and the State apparatus. |
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Hey TxLewis, here's a list of the state-level elections in North Carolina in 2012. List It also has links to the State Senate and State House elections.
Here are the elections that had a vote margin of less than 765 votes.. State Senate - District 1 - 21 vote margin - REPUBLICAN victory State House - District 6 - 458 margin - DEMOCRATIC victory And that's it. No other state level elections were closer than 765 votes. We have one race won by a Democrat which required over 50% of the fraudulent voters to be in a specific district and one case with a Republican victor which requires less than 5% of the fraud votes to have been in his district to make a difference. I've done most of your homework for you. Now go prove your case. |
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Quoted: Maybe you should keep reading the thread? Snips - "But to think that these 765 votes swung an election is going to require a bit of proof. Unless they all came from the same precinct and all voted for the same candidate for that race, it's going to be really hard for their votes to have been responsible for turning a loss into a victory. " PROVE that removing those votes would have changed the outcome of ANY election. I am dealing in facts. The only facts we have right now are 765 likely fraudulent votes. You are the one making allegations that those votes affected elections. Allegations are not facts. They need to be proven first. Edit: And at the moment, we don't even know which side those votes were on. For all you know, they could have resulted in a Republican winning an election he shouldn't have. That's why we wait on actual proof before making claims. At least, those of us who are interested in facts and reality, rather than hyperbole and supporting your own biases. Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Damn right it is. These cockroaches need to be exterminated. Vote fraud is rampant. No it's not. Voter fraud is much less of a problem than it use to be. There are 765 cases of suspected voter fraud. The other 35k aren't fraud. More investigation needs to be done. Jumping the gun might support your world view, but it's not accurate. Obviously, facts do no matter to you. Al Franken won by 312 votes. We now have an anchor around the neck of the USA called Obamacare. Sure 765 is not a problem. But, what's to be expected from spins. TXL Maybe you should keep reading the thread? Snips - "But to think that these 765 votes swung an election is going to require a bit of proof. Unless they all came from the same precinct and all voted for the same candidate for that race, it's going to be really hard for their votes to have been responsible for turning a loss into a victory. " PROVE that removing those votes would have changed the outcome of ANY election. I am dealing in facts. The only facts we have right now are 765 likely fraudulent votes. You are the one making allegations that those votes affected elections. Allegations are not facts. They need to be proven first. Edit: And at the moment, we don't even know which side those votes were on. For all you know, they could have resulted in a Republican winning an election he shouldn't have. That's why we wait on actual proof before making claims. At least, those of us who are interested in facts and reality, rather than hyperbole and supporting your own biases. But that all would have been after franken was elected. Those votes would not have been removed so in the immortal words of hillary "What difference, at this point, does it make?" They were going to keep counting and finding ballots in trunks of cars until he was ahead in votes. Also with the democrats controlling who prosecuted the cases how hard do you think they looked into fraud |