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Posted: Today 8:19:48 AM EST
[Last Edit: AeroE]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Orion_Shall_Rise: ... Trump almost won new jersey..... |
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Posted: Today 8:20:52 AM EST
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NY would be mostly red if not for NYC.
Well Buffalo, but fuck that place as well. Trump did really well in NY this time... I'll keep voting. |
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Posted: Today 8:29:29 AM EST
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JD Vance 2028!
... or Vivek 
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Posted: Today 8:31:00 AM EST
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Originally Posted By Mach: but it does Trump only got 36% of the vote in MA but that 36% Counted towards the popular vote, MA added 1.233 million votes to Trump helping him get the 6 million vote lead in popular vote. That is 20% of the 6 million vote lead in the popular vote helping take away a major talking point from the communists. Trump only got 40% of the vote in CA, but that was 4.023 million votes toward the popular vote or 66% of the 6 million popular vote margin. Trump got 44% of the vote in NY. 3.434 million votes contributing 57% of the 6 million margin of trump votes in the popular vote. The Trump voters in NY and CA gave Trump 7,45 million votes and gave him the win in the popular vote denying the communist narrative of needing to get rid of the EC So while Trump voters in blue states did not get Trump elected president, those votes still contributed significantly to the defeat of a major communist talking point and solidified the mandate for Trump OP can't math  
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Posted: Today 8:33:50 AM EST
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I know lots of people in Oregon that don't vote, I tell them that voting is the only way to let them know you are still around and will be a thorn in their side. I am sure the blue voting people in Idaho think the same way.
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Posted: Today 8:34:47 AM EST
[#6]
Attack the enemy on all fronts!
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Posted: Today 8:38:06 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Evil_Ryu: Attack the enemy on all fronts! Yup. Make them fight for every inch of blue on the map. |
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Posted: Today 8:38:55 AM EST
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Originally Posted By Mach: but it does Trump only got 36% of the vote in MA but that 36% Counted towards the popular vote, MA added 1.233 million votes to Trump helping him get the 6 million vote lead in popular vote. That is 20% of the 6 million vote lead in the popular vote helping take away a major talking point from the communists. Trump only got 40% of the vote in CA, but that was 4.023 million votes toward the popular vote or 66% of the 6 million popular vote margin. Trump got 44% of the vote in NY. 3.434 million votes contributing 57% of the 6 million margin of trump votes in the popular vote. The Trump voters in NY and CA gave Trump 7,45 million votes and gave him the win in the popular vote denying the communist narrative of needing to get rid of the EC So while Trump voters in blue states did not get Trump elected president, those votes still contributed significantly to the defeat of a major communist talking point and solidified the mandate for Trump True. Even CO delivered more than a million votes. |
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Posted: Today 8:43:24 AM EST
[Last Edit: Morlawn66]
[#9]
Winning the Popular Vote is a big deal . It just kills a favorite dem talking point.
It makes the Marxist dems just stfu , like right now . FHRC pulled this crap in 2016, touting her PV win , as did Biden in 2020. |
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Posted: Today 8:44:44 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TW52: This is why it’s important for people in blue states to vote. I know a ton of people who don’t vote because they live in a blue state and they feel like their vote doesn’t matter. We call those people pussies. |
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Posted: Today 8:44:49 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AeroE: Did not, there is a 5% difference. Went 10% for Biden in 2020, only 5% this time. 200k votes and 5 blue counties went red, believe me, the Dems are in panic mode right now. |
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IL, USA
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Posted: Today 8:48:13 AM EST
[#12]
I always vote, how else will you turn a state red.
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IL, USA
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Posted: Today 8:48:54 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By STL_Nik: People call illinois a blue state and it looks like this every election https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/433200/1000008807_jpg-3372227.JPG Straight ticket red, I did what I could. I'm in the burbs, but my county was still blue. |
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OR, USA
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Posted: Today 8:53:20 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By foxxnhound: I know lots of people in Oregon that don't vote, I tell them that voting is the only way to let them know you are still around and will be a thorn in their side. I am sure the blue voting people in Idaho think the same way. SoS has been accused more than once of shenanigans but of course nothing will happen. With 100% mail in voting there's zero accountability. |
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Posted: Today 8:54:30 AM EST
[Last Edit: warp_foo]
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Originally Posted By Mach: but it does Trump only got 36% of the vote in MA but that 36% Counted towards the popular vote, MA added 1.233 million votes to Trump helping him get the 6 million vote lead in popular vote. That is 20% of the 6 million vote lead in the popular vote helping take away a major talking point from the communists. Trump only got 40% of the vote in CA, but that was 4.023 million votes toward the popular vote or 66% of the 6 million popular vote margin. Trump got 44% of the vote in NY. 3.434 million votes contributing 57% of the 6 million margin of trump votes in the popular vote. The Trump voters in NY and CA gave Trump 7,45 million votes and gave him the win in the popular vote denying the communist narrative of needing to get rid of the EC So while Trump voters in blue states did not get Trump elected president, those votes still contributed significantly to the defeat of a major communist talking point and solidified the mandate for Trump m |
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Posted: Today 8:56:46 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By LittleBigHorn: The fuck it doesn't. It has the trickle down for the down ballot. And popular vote, just to shut them up. People seem to forget the Senate and House, at both the national and state levels, are the groups who really fuck up their lives. Even more so is a city or town council. If you let that get taken over by Karens and twats it’s game over. |
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Posted: Today 9:06:38 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 762xIAN: Went 10% for Biden in 2020, only 5% this time. 200k votes and 5 blue counties went red, believe me, the Dems are in panic mode right now. Closest since 1992... way more will bother to vote when they know it matters |
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Posted: Today 9:36:00 AM EST
[#18]
Originally Posted By Mach: but it does Trump only got 36% of the vote in MA but that 36% Counted towards the popular vote, MA added 1.233 million votes to Trump helping him get the 6 million vote lead in popular vote. That is 20% of the 6 million vote lead in the popular vote helping take away a major talking point from the communists. Trump only got 40% of the vote in CA, but that was 4.023 million votes toward the popular vote or 66% of the 6 million popular vote margin. Trump got 44% of the vote in NY. 3.434 million votes contributing 57% of the 6 million margin of trump votes in the popular vote. The Trump voters in NY and CA gave Trump 7,45 million votes and gave him the win in the popular vote denying the communist narrative of needing to get rid of the EC So while Trump voters in blue states did not get Trump elected president, those votes still contributed significantly to the defeat of a major communist talking point and solidified the mandate for Trump This. plus, if everyone who thinks their vote doesn't matter would show up and vote, maybe it would matter! |
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Posted: Today 9:37:45 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By dyezak: OP can't math Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By dyezak: Originally Posted By Mach: but it does Trump only got 36% of the vote in MA but that 36% Counted towards the popular vote, MA added 1.233 million votes to Trump helping him get the 6 million vote lead in popular vote. That is 20% of the 6 million vote lead in the popular vote helping take away a major talking point from the communists. Trump only got 40% of the vote in CA, but that was 4.023 million votes toward the popular vote or 66% of the 6 million popular vote margin. Trump got 44% of the vote in NY. 3.434 million votes contributing 57% of the 6 million margin of trump votes in the popular vote. The Trump voters in NY and CA gave Trump 7,45 million votes and gave him the win in the popular vote denying the communist narrative of needing to get rid of the EC So while Trump voters in blue states did not get Trump elected president, those votes still contributed significantly to the defeat of a major communist talking point and solidified the mandate for Trump OP can't math |
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Posted: Today 9:39:02 AM EST
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NH voting habits are easy to figure out. They want the DC gravy without spending their own money
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Posted: Today 9:41:44 AM EST
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Good point Mach. That’s the only positive to come from my vote from the ranch in the mountains of WA.
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Posted: Today 9:47:51 AM EST
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I think OP has a point. So many traditional Democrat voters in NY voting for Trump probably causes angst for people like the Governor and the mayor of NY. They'll never lose an election but they still might still get nervous and tamp down their usual super lefty instincts
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TX, USA
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Posted: Today 9:55:08 AM EST
[Last Edit: JohnnyLoco]
[#23]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By DnTrdNMe: MN stayed blue like it has since the 70's, but my county and the one next door flipped red for the first time in my memory. I'm stuck here for now, hopefully we can keep making progress. That’s good. A lot is said about moving to red states and areas, and I get it if there are oppressive gun laws, bans etc. but it’s you folks behind enemy lines that also contribute to republican congressional seats, Also, remember Florida, Ohio, and Missouri, all were purple or even leaning blue for a while and once Republicans gained control of the state and presumably cleaned up the Democrat fraud machine, solidly red since. Or there’s just a culture change from good outreach and promoting conservative values. |
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Posted: Today 10:04:04 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Mach: how so, please show your work Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Mach: Originally Posted By dyezak: Originally Posted By Mach: but it does Trump only got 36% of the vote in MA but that 36% Counted towards the popular vote, MA added 1.233 million votes to Trump helping him get the 6 million vote lead in popular vote. That is 20% of the 6 million vote lead in the popular vote helping take away a major talking point from the communists. Trump only got 40% of the vote in CA, but that was 4.023 million votes toward the popular vote or 66% of the 6 million popular vote margin. Trump got 44% of the vote in NY. 3.434 million votes contributing 57% of the 6 million margin of trump votes in the popular vote. The Trump voters in NY and CA gave Trump 7,45 million votes and gave him the win in the popular vote denying the communist narrative of needing to get rid of the EC So while Trump voters in blue states did not get Trump elected president, those votes still contributed significantly to the defeat of a major communist talking point and solidified the mandate for Trump OP can't math All right, just start with the absurd. MA is 20% of the popular vote margin, Ca is 66% of the popular vote margin, NY is 57% of the popular vote margin... So we have 143% of the popular vote margin in 3 states...forget about the rest of the states. That is not how it works. You can't effectively do that, you have to talk GROSS to GROSS, it's the only way the #'s make sense and the math doesn't break giving you >100%. You're basically following the book on, "How to Lie with Statistics" by Darrell Huff. So look gross to gross and derive your percentages that way to tell an accurate story that scales to all 50 states AND can be back tracked: If we do that the GROSS total votes are 71mil, CA cast 4mil for trump, that's 5% of the victory. Then you can extrapolate that across all 50 states, the #'s will add up, and the story is legit. And it still makes your underlying point, use WY as an example. Trump won that state BIGLY. Trump got 200,000, Kamala got 70,000. Trump won that state HUGE. But to your point that state didn't contribute much at all to the landslide popular vote win nationally. It was only 00.002% So not only would the math make sense, the numbers would still show the same thing. CA, NY, MA were massively important in the popular vote totals even without getting a single electoral vote in any of those states. |
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ID, USA
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Posted: Today 10:05:20 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By webtaz99: Do it to piss THEM off, if for no other reason. This. |
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Posted: Today 10:05:50 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TW52: This is why it’s important for people in blue states to vote. I know a ton of people who don’t vote because they live in a blue state and they feel like their vote doesn’t matter. |
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Posted: Today 10:19:56 AM EST
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That's a great point Mach, I haven't thought about it that way.
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CA, USA
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Posted: Today 10:23:25 AM EST
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In terms of the Presidency: A person's vote counts the most if their state is a battleground state where the electorate is pretty much very close to bein 50-50.
Otherwise it doesn't mean diddly squat except for "brownie points" because that is what the popular vote really is. It does give an overall measure of the sentiment of the entire country and serves as a guide post for legislative decisions for congress. And policy making decisions for the President. In a very lopsided state the person who belongs to the minority party; there vote means nothing. For example: I live in a very deep blue state. In my state I'm outnumbered 3 to 1. In my current county: I'm outnumbered 2 to 1. My best bet for having my vote count is during non-presidential elections, where I am voting for a person running for a local office. Like a city council or a school board official. Or maybe a local bond measure (I vote against these). My vote won't matter to even my district's state representative let alone anyone running for federal office. Before I moved, in my last county, I was only outnumbered by about 1.2 to 1. So my vote for Sheriff, city council, bond measures, state representative, made a much larger difference during non-Presidential elections. The LAST time my state voted for a Republican Candidate for President was in 1988. Yep. I live in California. And believe it or not it used to be a conservative state, so was Colorado, Oregon and Washington...but that all changed...and it went so far off the deep end, changing it back is impossible in my lifetime. The only thing I can do is to move to another state. One where ultra-conservative people like myself would be welcome. And either play defense (politically) to a red state, or move to a real battleground state and make a difference: like PA |
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MO, USA
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Posted: Today 10:24:40 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By towerofpower94: People seem to forget the Senate and House, at both the national and state levels, are the groups who really fuck up their lives. Even more so is a city or town council. If you let that get taken over by Karens and twats it’s game over. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By towerofpower94: Originally Posted By LittleBigHorn: The fuck it doesn't. It has the trickle down for the down ballot. And popular vote, just to shut them up. People seem to forget the Senate and House, at both the national and state levels, are the groups who really fuck up their lives. Even more so is a city or town council. If you let that get taken over by Karens and twats it’s game over. Finally, someone gave the right answer. There are more Republican congressman from California than there are from many "red" states. It really is amazing how many people think voting means once every four year and president is the only thing important. President is the most diluted vote. Your vote doesn't directly elect the president. The president doesn't make any laws. Things that happen at the state and local levels actually affect your life more directly and much more. Half the people probably can't tell you who their current sentators, rep and in some cases who the vice president is. |
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Posted: Today 10:27:43 AM EST
[#30]
the reverse is also true, all those blue voters in red states
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Posted: Today 10:29:00 AM EST
[#31]
If a state is 60-40 and the minority gets out to vote, they probably still lose however the vote total might end up being more like 53-47% That's still an 6 point spread and not really close... But next time, in their strategy meetings, the majority party has to plan on running campaign ads and other resources there to shore up their majority because it's not safe.
As a side note, it sure would be funny to spread the word around to everyone to lie to pollsters about who you will vote for. That would throw all their calculations way off. |
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Posted: Today 10:43:30 AM EST
[Last Edit: pr24guy]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Orion_Shall_Rise: ... Trump almost won new jersey..... There was only a 5% difference. If more people voted, he could easily have won. They gave the win for our Town Council to all three Dems. and yesterday they reversed it to all three Republicans, after the ballots were counted. |
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Posted: Today 10:46:01 AM EST
[#33]
 still voting
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WA, USA
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Posted: Today 10:50:40 AM EST
[#34]
I vote in a blue state, problem is too many republicans didn't bother to understand that yes means no.
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Posted: Today 10:54:35 AM EST
[#35]
Originally Posted By Mach: but it does Trump only got 36% of the vote in MA but that 36% Counted towards the popular vote, MA added 1.233 million votes to Trump helping him get the 6 million vote lead in popular vote. That is 20% of the 6 million vote lead in the popular vote helping take away a major talking point from the communists. Trump only got 40% of the vote in CA, but that was 4.023 million votes toward the popular vote or 66% of the 6 million popular vote margin. Trump got 44% of the vote in NY. 3.434 million votes contributing 57% of the 6 million margin of trump votes in the popular vote. The Trump voters in NY and CA gave Trump 7,45 million votes and gave him the win in the popular vote denying the communist narrative of needing to get rid of the EC So while Trump voters in blue states did not get Trump elected president, those votes still contributed significantly to the defeat of a major communist talking point and solidified the mandate for Trump To see two democrats cheer gleefully when Trump passed 270 was a great day. Thanksgiving (politically) is going to be peaceful in my home. |
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Posted: Today 3:44:47 PM EST
[Last Edit: FDC]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By towerofpower94: People seem to forget the Senate and House, at both the national and state levels, are the groups who really fuck up their lives. Even more so is a city or town council. If you let that get taken over by Karens and twats it’s game over. Yep. The general premise is to vote from the bottom to the top of the ballot. Local is what REALLY matters for your day to day lives. The national level shit is mostly white noise. Then there is understanding your district. My district has two reps. Almost 2500 folks only voted for one and a D almost won. Luckily both Rs won, but come on people. |
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NY, USA
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Posted: Today 4:05:28 PM EST
[#37]
Originally Posted By Mach: but it does Trump only got 36% of the vote in MA but that 36% Counted towards the popular vote, MA added 1.233 million votes to Trump helping him get the 6 million vote lead in popular vote. That is 20% of the 6 million vote lead in the popular vote helping take away a major talking point from the communists. Trump only got 40% of the vote in CA, but that was 4.023 million votes toward the popular vote or 66% of the 6 million popular vote margin. Trump got 44% of the vote in NY. 3.434 million votes contributing 57% of the 6 million margin of trump votes in the popular vote. The Trump voters in NY and CA gave Trump 7,45 million votes and gave him the win in the popular vote denying the communist narrative of needing to get rid of the EC So while Trump voters in blue states did not get Trump elected president, those votes still contributed significantly to the defeat of a major communist talking point and solidified the mandate for Trump Don’t forget local and state offices matter too. Vote in every election. School board, state legislature, county…. |
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Posted: Today 4:06:41 PM EST
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AZ, USA
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Posted: Today 4:09:49 PM EST
[#39]
I said that very same thing on here once and was ridiculed for it.
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OR, USA
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Posted: Today 4:49:16 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By foxxnhound: I know lots of people in Oregon that don't vote, I tell them that voting is the only way to let them know you are still around and will be a thorn in their side. I am sure the blue voting people in Idaho think the same way. Last I heard Oregon had something like a 60% turn out. We may be a real state again if they vote. Also, I'm not sure why the popular vote matters. Electoral votes matter, popular does not. |
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Posted: Today 5:02:08 PM EST
[#41]
I think it's because leftists are always talking about the popular vote, it sure motivated me to at least contribute something to shut them up.
Also something felt different this year, we had rallies on overpasses, lots more trump flags and signs. The lower income areas had 95% of the trump stuff, all the white elite towns are libs/ukraine/blm signs. It's hard for me to put in to words how out of touch the democrat party is represented here. There's something of a I'm not embarrassed to tell them I'm conservative and not scared to display I'm conservative going around this time, maybe because of how ridiculous their party is. |
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VT, USA
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Posted: Today 5:07:18 PM EST
[#42]
I'm in the most 'tarded of all the blue states (VT) and definitely outnumbered here but l ALWAYS vote.
This time my town nearly went for Trump, Harris only won by about .5%. We got rid of the weirdo pervert D/Prog Lieutenant governor and got an R in instead. We blocked the DEI liberal yoga instructor and her posse from getting a foothold in my town. We got rid of the Dem supermajority in the state legislature. My one little vote added to Trumps popular vote. Yeah not as much national impact as if I was in a swing state but overall it was positive even though I'm trapped in the deep blue. I will never not vote. |
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Posted: Today 5:10:57 PM EST
[Last Edit: BM1455]
[#43]
I live in a blue state. I have lived in two other blue states. I have never missed an election and some times we get lucky once in a while.
At some point people begin to figure it out. NJ and VA were pretty close all things considered. MA and northern MA/ ME not so much. ME and NH are now full of liberals who fled their commie utopias to the south because curiously they no longer wanted to live there in retirement because it was becoming a shithole. They brought their missionary politics with them along with their inflated egos of how great they are. |
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Posted: Today 5:13:40 PM EST
[#44]
New York gave republicans the house after flipping 5 seats in 2022
Get your ass out and vote |
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Posted: Today 5:17:15 PM EST
[#45]
Originally Posted By Mach: but it does Trump only got 36% of the vote in MA but that 36% Counted towards the popular vote, MA added 1.233 million votes to Trump helping him get the 6 million vote lead in popular vote. That is 20% of the 6 million vote lead in the popular vote helping take away a major talking point from the communists. Trump only got 40% of the vote in CA, but that was 4.023 million votes toward the popular vote or 66% of the 6 million popular vote margin. Trump got 44% of the vote in NY. 3.434 million votes contributing 57% of the 6 million margin of trump votes in the popular vote. The Trump voters in NY and CA gave Trump 7,45 million votes and gave him the win in the popular vote denying the communist narrative of needing to get rid of the EC So while Trump voters in blue states did not get Trump elected president, those votes still contributed significantly to the defeat of a major communist talking point and solidified the mandate for Trump It helps locally, too. Look at NH. |
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Posted: Today 5:30:42 PM EST
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Im in Clown World territory.
I vote. I vote just to show defiance. Fuck the commies. Fuck Jabba. Fuck all Democrats. Seriously... Fuck em |
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CO, USA
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Posted: Today 5:33:49 PM EST
[#47]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TW52: I know a ton of people who don’t vote because they live in a blue state and they feel like their vote doesn’t matter. I know just as many in red states who figure their state is a foregone conclusion so why vote. |
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Posted: Today 5:34:40 PM EST
[#48]
AKA: The F U vote
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NY, USA
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Posted: Today 5:37:37 PM EST
[#49]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By cranberry1: Always vote he got 44% of the vote in NYS , he went into the inner city which helped him out a lot . The fact that he received 44% in NEW YORK should send shock waves through the halls of the Albany Capitol. If the numbers were a little higher, NY’s electoral votes would have gone red. Let that sink in for a minute… |
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Posted: Today 5:38:08 PM EST
[#50]
I heard a couple stats about IL as well.
I believe something like 80% of Chicago turned out for Biden in 2020 and only 60% for Harris in 2024. I think I heard that Trump got more votes in IL in 2024 than all votes he received in 2016 and 2020 combined. |
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