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3/10/2008 6:57:19 AM EDT


Since World War II, the military has seen much of its soldiers equipment go through many radical changes and technological advances. The knife has gone unchanged until now. Our soldiers deserve the most advanced equipment that is available to them. A simple knife is okay, but when it comes down to the last line of defense, you want something that will get the job done. Introducing the WASP Injection Knife. This easy-to-use, easy-to-reload weapon delivers up to a 24g shot of compressed gas at 800 PSI on land or underwater.

I dont know why ,but I want one
3/10/2008 6:58:20 AM EDT
[#1]
That'd hurt like a mofo.
3/10/2008 7:12:35 AM EDT
[#2]
a ballistic knife but uses co2 instead of a spring?
3/10/2008 7:13:56 AM EDT
[#3]

I want one.
3/10/2008 7:15:32 AM EDT
[#4]
Beautifull
3/10/2008 7:15:48 AM EDT
[#5]

Quoted:
a ballistic knife but uses co2 instead of a spring?
I think its meant to shoot the gas under the skin, which will kill you in the form of a gas embolism (sorta like vapor lock in an engine, it'll stop your heart).

Kharn
3/10/2008 7:15:52 AM EDT
[#6]

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a ballistic knife but uses co2 instead of a spring?
Nope. The blade stays in place. The knife fires a jet of gas from the CO2 cartridge in the handle into whatever you stab.
3/10/2008 7:18:46 AM EDT
[#7]
It's intended for defense from sharks.
3/10/2008 7:20:12 AM EDT
[#8]
Kewl!
3/10/2008 7:21:11 AM EDT
[#9]

Quoted:

Quoted:
a ballistic knife but uses co2 instead of a spring?
Nope. The blade stays in place. The knife fires a jet of gas from the CO2 cartridge in the handle into whatever you stab.


Yeah that is what I figured it did.

How fast can a gas embolism kill you?

Now they just need a way to load it up with marinade, so you can throw your prey right on the grill afterwards.
3/10/2008 7:23:37 AM EDT
[#10]

Quoted:

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a ballistic knife but uses co2 instead of a spring?
Nope. The blade stays in place. The knife fires a jet of gas from the CO2 cartridge in the handle into whatever you stab.


Yeah that is what I figured it did.

How fast can a gas embolism kill you?

Now they just need a way to load it up with marinade, so you can throw your prey right on the grill afterwards.


I believe ( someone correct me if I'm wrong ) as soon as it reaches the heart, your toast. So however long it takes to circulate from the injection point to the heart?
3/10/2008 7:27:19 AM EDT
[#11]
It works on sharks since they loose bouyancy control.
It is not going to preferntially enter the blood stream.
If you put the gas into thte chest you could collapse a lung, maybe burst a hollow organ, etc.
3/10/2008 7:28:13 AM EDT
[#12]
Demo video of co2 release

The website for the manufacturer is down.  http://www.waspknife.com/

Looks interesting.  
3/10/2008 7:30:48 AM EDT
[#13]
I dont know but a  24g at 800 psi compressed air shot in the chest cavity of a "shark" will compress the lungs  I think.
3/10/2008 7:31:18 AM EDT
[#14]
Been readin' SOF?  
3/10/2008 7:31:52 AM EDT
[#15]
Reminds me of this...


"A reported anti-frogman guard is (or was) dolphins trained to carry on the nose a device which injects a large amount of compressed carbon dioxide into the frogman. This would likely be lethal due to blood embolism. It is said that they were trained at Point Mugu. It was said that this device was abandoned because of fears that wild dolphins might imitate and start harassing ordinary divers. Today the mammals are primarily trained to force the diver to the surface using pushing techniques in the assumption that the majority of incursions can be addressed in this manner."

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-frogman_techniques


"Dolphins are also being trained in the swimmer nullification program, where a long, hollow hypodermic needle is placed over the snout of the dolphin for injecting compressed CO² into the enemy frogmen, the pressurized gas forcing the frogman's internal organs out of his body orifices."

www.tagate.com/dolphins_resource_center/military_use_of_dolphins/dolphins_of_war.shtml
3/10/2008 7:31:56 AM EDT
[#16]

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It works on sharks since they loose bouyancy control.


How well would this work on a goose or a moose?
3/10/2008 7:33:59 AM EDT
[#17]

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Been readin' SOF?  


3/10/2008 7:34:00 AM EDT
[#18]

Quoted:

Quoted:
a ballistic knife but uses co2 instead of a spring?
I think its meant to shoot the gas under the skin, which will kill you in the form of a gas embolism (sorta like vapor lock in an engine, it'll stop your heart).

Kharn


Oh wow, that sounds painful.
3/10/2008 7:36:00 AM EDT
[#19]

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It works on sharks since they loose bouyancy control.


How well would this work on a goose or a moose?


Your STABBING geese? let a lone MOOSES(sp)? WTF?!?!

btw what is the plural of moose? is it meese? or moosi? mooseses?
3/10/2008 7:37:32 AM EDT
[#20]

Quoted:

Quoted:
a ballistic knife but uses co2 instead of a spring?
I think its meant to shoot the gas under the skin, which will kill you in the form of a gas embolism (sorta like vapor lock in an engine, it'll stop your heart).

Kharn


Not intended for embolisms, intended to make you go *POP*

ETA-Leave mooses alone, Bitch!
3/10/2008 7:37:55 AM EDT
[#21]
Group buy? Are they legal for us civilians? How much do they go for?
3/10/2008 7:40:39 AM EDT
[#22]

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a ballistic knife but uses co2 instead of a spring?
Nope. The blade stays in place. The knife fires a jet of gas from the CO2 cartridge in the handle into whatever you stab.


Yeah that is what I figured it did.

How fast can a gas embolism kill you?

Now they just need a way to load it up with marinade, so you can throw your prey right on the grill afterwards.


I believe ( someone correct me if I'm wrong ) as soon as it reaches the heart, your toast. So however long it takes to circulate from the injection point to the heart?


That thing is more likely to create a more traumatic, nasty knife wound than it is to create gas embolisms.
An embolism is INSIDE a blood vessle...they create problems when they reach the smallest veins, arteries, and capillaries in the brain, lungs, coronary arteries that feed the heart muscle, etc.

If you stabbed someone in the chest cavity with that...it would CERTAINLY cause collapsed lungs, and tension pneumothorax...which is most likely the EXACT INTENT of that weapon, because it makes the most sense.

3/10/2008 7:41:43 AM EDT
[#23]

I would say that's the dumbest thing I've ever seen, but I've seen a lot of dumb shit on ar15.com over the years.  
3/10/2008 7:42:47 AM EDT
[#24]
Older shark devices like 'bang sticks' used a 12 gauge shell.
The noise underwater is horrible (I used one once).

Newer sticks use a cartridge to inject gas.
Mr. Shark tends to float up and have control problems.

This looks like an attempt to eliminate carrying both a stick and a knife.
3/10/2008 7:45:12 AM EDT
[#25]

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It works on sharks since they loose bouyancy control.


How well would this work on a goose or a moose?


Your STABBING geese? let a lone MOOSES(sp)? WTF?!?!

btw what is the plural of moose? is it meese? or moosi? mooseses?


ah man... stab moose with this and pull the trigger (or push the button i suppose). do this and put the vid on youtube. priceless..

as a sort of an aside, i wonder if you could hunt deer with this thing and use it instead of a bow or muzzle loader.. would that be considered a 'primitive weapon' allowing you to hunt with a knife and thereby extend your deer hunting season?
3/10/2008 7:50:35 AM EDT
[#26]

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It works on sharks since they loose bouyancy control.


How well would this work on a goose or a moose?


Your STABBING geese? let a lone MOOSES(sp)? WTF?!?!

btw what is the plural of moose? is it meese? or moosi? mooseses?


ah man... stab moose with this and pull the trigger (or push the button i suppose). do this and put the vid on youtube. priceless..

as a sort of an aside, i wonder if you could hunt deer with this thing and use it instead of a bow or muzzle loader.. would that be considered a 'primitive weapon' allowing you to hunt with a knife and thereby extend your deer hunting season?


Could make hog hunting interesting too.  
3/10/2008 7:52:29 AM EDT
[#27]

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Quoted:

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It works on sharks since they loose bouyancy control.


How well would this work on a goose or a moose?


Your STABBING geese? let a lone MOOSES(sp)? WTF?!?!

btw what is the plural of moose? is it meese? or moosi? mooseses?


Møøse

...someone will catch that.
3/10/2008 7:52:56 AM EDT
[#28]

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How fast can a gas embolism kill you?
Probably pretty fast, but this thig doesn't inject air into a blood vessel.

The blast of CO2 is likely intended to cause injuries when injected, but it isn't going to cause an air embolism.
3/10/2008 8:22:55 AM EDT
[#29]
 $599.99 MSRP  
3/10/2008 8:23:29 AM EDT
[#30]

Quoted:

Quoted:
a ballistic knife but uses co2 instead of a spring?
Nope. The blade stays in place. The knife fires a jet of gas from the CO2 cartridge in the handle into whatever you stab.

ouchie and thanks for the correction
3/10/2008 9:16:31 AM EDT
[#31]
For $599.99 it had better be made of metals only found at the highest point of Everest forged by Blind Tibeten monks in a secret underground forge using the powdered bones of 100 Fairies to polish the blade.

For $599.00 it had better fire bullet when you stab a shark. hat
3/10/2008 9:21:04 AM EDT
[#32]

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I would say that's the dumbest thing I've ever seen, but I've seen a lot of dumb shit on ar15.com over the years.  


its not dumb.. its pratical.. you fill the compressed gas cartridge with cheese and gas. then bam inject the cheese into the meat and fry.. Yumm golden goodness!
3/10/2008 9:21:04 AM EDT
[#33]
I'd like to have one out of novelty but I sure would hate to explain it to a DA if I used it for defensive purposes.
3/10/2008 9:21:16 AM EDT
[#34]

Quoted:
. Introducing the WASP Injection Knife. This easy-to-use, easy-to-reload weapon delivers up to a 24g shot of compressed gas at 800 PSI on land or underwater.

I dont know why ,but I want one


Oh come on.  I can't possibly be the only person who skimmed the original post and thought:

Cool!.  A knife that injects a live WASP into your enemy!
3/10/2008 9:22:32 AM EDT
[#35]

Quoted:
It works on sharks since they loose bouyancy control.
It is not going to preferntially enter the blood stream.
If you put the gas into thte chest you could collapse a lung, maybe burst a hollow organ, etc.


My command of physics may not be up to snuff, but that makes zero sense to me. How would a couple of ounces of air (which doesn't compromise the wielder's buoyancy) siginficantly affect a killing machine that can weigh a ton?

Hurt like a mofo? Check

Additional lethal force? Check

Buoyancy? Not buying it.
3/10/2008 9:24:31 AM EDT
[#36]

Quoted:

Quoted:

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It works on sharks since they loose bouyancy control.


How well would this work on a goose or a moose?


Your STABBING geese? let a lone MOOSES(sp)? WTF?!?!

btw what is the plural of moose? is it meese? or moosi? mooseses?


Møøse

...someone will catch that.


Møøse bytes kan be pretti nasti...
3/10/2008 9:27:52 AM EDT
[#37]

Quoted:

Quoted:

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It works on sharks since they loose bouyancy control.


How well would this work on a goose or a moose?


Your STABBING geese? let a lone MOOSES(sp)? WTF?!?!

btw what is the plural of moose? is it meese? or moosi? mooseses?


Møøse

...someone will catch that.


Møøse bytes kan be pretti nasti...


how would you know?  was your sister once bitten by a moose?
3/10/2008 9:29:11 AM EDT
[#38]


Do yall think stab wounds would make a sound like flatchulence?

3/10/2008 9:37:46 AM EDT
[#39]

Quoted:

Quoted:

Quoted:

Quoted:

Quoted:

Quoted:
It works on sharks since they loose bouyancy control.


How well would this work on a goose or a moose?


Your STABBING geese? let a lone MOOSES(sp)? WTF?!?!

btw what is the plural of moose? is it meese? or moosi? mooseses?


Møøse

...someone will catch that.


Møøse bytes kan be pretti nasti...


how would you know?  was your sister once bitten by a moose?


No realli! She was Karving her initials on the moose with the sharpened end of an interspace toothbrush given her by Svenge - her brother-in-law - an Oslo dentist and star of many Norwegian movies: "The Hot Hands of an Oslo Dentist", "Fillings of Passion", "The Huge Molars of Horst Nordfink"...
3/10/2008 9:42:14 AM EDT
[#40]
The concept seems interesting, but I doubt it is very practical.
3/10/2008 9:43:39 AM EDT
[#41]

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It's intended for defense from sharks.


Including the air breathers.
4/3/2008 12:33:06 PM EDT
[#42]
Hello,

I have been noticing posts on different message boards about our knife and wanted to join the board to answer any questions you may have.

First off, our site is currently offline because we are negotiating to make this weapon available to only military and police.  We just want to make sure that we dot all the i's and cross all the t's while we wait for the word.  Based on the outcome of our deal, we may or may not make the knife available to the general public.

Now, on to the questions:

1. This knife was originally intended for use underwater to defend against predatory sea creatures.

2. No, the blade does not shoot off of the handle.  It is a fixed blade that shoots gas through a hole in the center of it.

3. Yes, it is very deadly and can cause a lot of damage when used on a living creature.  Not only could it possibly cause an embolism, but it can also freeze and displace organs at the point of injection.

4. No, it cannot inject any special seasonings or marinades as of yet.  LOL.

5. We are looking in to the hog hunting community as a possible use.

6. The gas bubble created by this knife is 88 cu. in. when the cartridge is fully emptied into a target.  That's enough to have an effect on bouyancy.


I will check back on this board to answer any other questions you might have or you can email me directly at rick[at]waspinjection.com.

Thanks for you interest and have a nice day.
4/3/2008 12:35:03 PM EDT
[#43]

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...we are negotiating to make this weapon available to only military and police...


why?

edit:
why only military and police?
4/3/2008 12:43:06 PM EDT
[#44]

Quoted:

Quoted:
...we are negotiating to make this weapon available to only military and police...


why?

edit:
why only military and police?


figures
4/3/2008 12:46:14 PM EDT
[#45]

Quoted:

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...we are negotiating to make this weapon available to only military and police...


why?

edit:
why only military and police?


why you want to take on sharks by yourself,call the cops.
4/3/2008 12:57:29 PM EDT
[#46]

Quoted:
Hello,

I have been noticing posts on different message boards about our knife and wanted to join the board to answer any questions you may have.

First off, our site is currently offline because we are negotiating to make this weapon available to only military and police.  We just want to make sure that we dot all the i's and cross all the t's while we wait for the word.  Based on the outcome of our deal, we may or may not make the knife available to the general public.

Now, on to the questions:

1. This knife was originally intended for use underwater to defend against predatory sea creatures.

2. No, the blade does not shoot off of the handle.  It is a fixed blade that shoots gas through a hole in the center of it.

3. Yes, it is very deadly and can cause a lot of damage when used on a living creature.  Not only could it possibly cause an embolism, but it can also freeze and displace organs at the point of injection.

4. No, it cannot inject any special seasonings or marinades as of yet.  LOL.

5. We are looking in to the hog hunting community as a possible use.

6. The gas bubble created by this knife is 88 cu. in. when the cartridge is fully emptied into a target.  That's enough to have an effect on bouyancy.


I will check back on this board to answer any other questions you might have or you can email me directly at rick[at]waspinjection.com.

Thanks for you interest and have a nice day.


With the attitude of police/military only I can sure tell you that you will piss off many of your potential customers.
4/3/2008 1:10:27 PM EDT
[#47]
I think you should reconsider the price point of your knife. Your marketing strategy of making the knife available to mil/leo only is sound, that tactic is sure to attract civilian interest. We all know that LEOs are not civilians, this has been discussed at length and we reached a resolution on the matter at the last HSLD board meeting. However, I could never trust my life to a knife that costs less than $2000. I think I speak for all of AR15.com when I say this knife must at least be four times it's current price before it could be trusted in the heat of battle all of us here face on a daily basis. I will also forward you a rough sketch of a wheelbarrow mount I think we would all like to see made available.

Thank you
4/3/2008 1:14:47 PM EDT
[#48]
Is it embolism that would kill you or is it the massive tissue damage created by the blast of air ripping through the wound channel? that seems more likely.

And do sharks have lungs? Thought they had gills only.
4/3/2008 1:16:53 PM EDT
[#49]

Quoted:

Do yall think stab wounds would make a sound like flatchulence?



The only epic death is that of your wound making the sound of a wet fart as blood rains everywhere.
4/3/2008 1:18:40 PM EDT
[#50]

Quoted:

Quoted:
...we are negotiating to make this weapon available to only military and police...


why?

edit:
why only military and police?



Duh - because the military and police spend a lot of time dealing with predatory sea creatures.

Haven't you SEEN 20,000 leagues under the sea?  
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