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Link Posted: 5/11/2020 4:54:08 PM EST
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Originally Posted By FDrifting:
I've googled it multiple times and I still don't understand what a put is it makes no sense to my tiny brain.
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A put is the option to sell a stock at a certain price.  

Say MVIS.  I bought the option to sell it at $1.  If the price is below $1 who ever owns the sold option has to give me $1 per share of the stock I own if I exercise my option.  

If the stock goes above $1 the value of the option approaches 0 the closer we get to the time the option expires.
Link Posted: 5/11/2020 5:00:55 PM EST
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Originally Posted By FDrifting:
I've googled it multiple times and I still don't understand what a put is it makes no sense to my tiny brain.
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Options are just that...they are contracts that give you the option to buy/sell at a specific price.

A put gives you the Option to Sell at a specific price.

If a stock is at $10 today.  But you think it's going down to $5, you could buy a $9 Put.  It's not really worth anything now, because why would you want to sell something for $9 when it's currently worth $10?.

But if the stock drops to $5, you could exercise your Put at which point your option gives you the right to sell the stock at $9.  You then buy the stock on the open market for the current value of $5 and then sell it to the writer of the Put for $9 and pocket the difference.

The opposite of that is a Call, which is the right to buy stock at a specific price, and you basically reverse the above scenario when the stock goes up.
Link Posted: 5/11/2020 5:04:37 PM EST
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Buying options also give you way less risk than buying a stock.  However selling options.
Link Posted: 5/11/2020 5:10:36 PM EST
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Originally Posted By RwithThe40:
Why is it shooting up so fast!??
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Pumpers have baked together the website bullshit article claiming the MSFT CEO said "the deal is basically done", with a Hololens II webinar being conducted at 1pm EST tomorrow in Florida to manufacture "an announcement".

There is a 87% chance it's pure pump...there are several dumpster-fire day trading sites pushing this, never a good sign.

Also, after hours trading is notoriously unpredictable, and both sides use tiny, highly inflated/deflated buys to do what's commonly referred to as "painting the tape". They're ginning up what looks like a huge move out of the paper thin volume of after hours trading....though I will admit the AH volume lately has been way above normal, but then so has the day volume.

Don't mean to sound overly pessimistic, but the real action is going on behind closed doors and if/when it does happen there won't be any mucking about. In the interim, shenanigans will be plentiful.

Link Posted: 5/11/2020 5:13:59 PM EST
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hi i have been following this thread since the beginning.  thanks for all the information, esp OP.

what is the best guess at a buyout price?

and isn't it dangerous for these internet outlets to publish unconfirmed stock releases?  i know the media publishes fake shit all the time, but sometimes they get sued for it.
Link Posted: 5/11/2020 5:16:12 PM EST
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Okay, after hours volume is over 8 million shares. That can be indicative of something significant, unless it's not and a metric shit-ton of people bought into the announcement rumor for tomorrow. Seat belts and tray tables up, please.

Link Posted: 5/11/2020 5:21:03 PM EST
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AH is 13m+

Stock was high volume during the day, but mostly flat.

The BS Floridian article came out well well ahead of pre-market today, there was typical MVIS high volume during the day but rather flat, high volume AH with resistance being pushed over.

My simpleton mind says this AH is not due to the BS article I posted this morning.

The webinar tomorrow might be driving it some.

The more I look at Microvision, I’m personally thinking there’s going to be a buyout and it’s wise to hold.   Wise to buy even now if you have some money you aren’t worried to lose.

Link Posted: 5/11/2020 5:30:14 PM EST
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I still have my piss ant 114 shares Im getting that Big Gulp or burning in!  
Link Posted: 5/11/2020 5:31:10 PM EST
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Originally Posted By Tango:
I still have my piss ant 114 shares  Im getting that Big Gulp or burning in!  
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Link Posted: 5/11/2020 5:35:18 PM EST
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Originally Posted By prill64:


Options are just that...they are contracts that give you the option to buy/sell at a specific price.

A put gives you the Option to Sell at a specific price.

If a stock is at $10 today.  But you think it's going down to $5, you could buy a $9 Put.  It's not really worth anything now, because why would you want to sell something for $9 when it's currently worth $10?.

But if the stock drops to $5, you could exercise your Put at which point your option gives you the right to sell the stock at $9.  You then buy the stock on the open market for the current value of $5 and then sell it to the writer of the Put for $9 and pocket the difference.

The opposite of that is a Call, which is the right to buy stock at a specific price, and you basically reverse the above scenario when the stock goes up.
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Okay that makes a little more sense. So is an option technically not buying a stock? So say MVIS is hovering around $1 and I buy a put for $.75 and it dropped to $.50, technically I bought a stock at 75% of the price and sold it for a 50% profit?
Link Posted: 5/11/2020 6:06:56 PM EST
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Originally Posted By FDrifting:
Okay that makes a little more sense. So is an option technically not buying a stock? So say MVIS is hovering around $1 and I buy a put for $.75 and it dropped to $.50, technically I bought a stock at 75% of the price and sold it for a 50% profit?
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If you bought a put for $.75 cents and the stock falls to $.50 you are still negative $.25.

Puts cost you money to be able to sell at a certain price.  Today the puts for $1 were costing 20-25 cents. So the break even is about 75 cents.  But if the stock starts dropping like a rock people will freak out and start buying puts above the actual break even price so they don't get stuck having to buy shares.
Link Posted: 5/11/2020 7:14:09 PM EST
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Originally Posted By StevesZZ5:


What makes it so fun is that I have absolutely NO CLUE what I'm doing.
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Link Posted: 5/11/2020 7:35:44 PM EST
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The only reason to run it up after hours with no news is pump and dump.

It would be way smarter to buy during the day if you knew something was going to happen.

Link Posted: 5/11/2020 7:40:12 PM EST
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Originally Posted By Tango:
I still have my piss ant 114 shares  Im getting that Big Gulp or burning in!  
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lol!!!!
Link Posted: 5/11/2020 7:41:38 PM EST
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Originally Posted By Tango:
I still have my piss ant 114 shares  Im getting that Big Gulp or burning in!  
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207 shares.
Link Posted: 5/11/2020 7:45:28 PM EST
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Originally Posted By StevesZZ5:
AH is 13m+

Stock was high volume during the day, but mostly flat.

The BS Floridian article came out well well ahead of pre-market today, there was typical MVIS high volume during the day but rather flat, high volume AH with resistance being pushed over.

My simpleton mind says this AH is not due to the BS article I posted this morning.

The webinar tomorrow might be driving it some.

The more I look at Microvision, I’m personally thinking there’s going to be a buyout and it’s wise to hold.   Wise to buy even now if you have some money you aren’t worried to lose.

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I have 75k shares that are applauding this post and hoping for liberation.  Mr. SHARMA tear down this wall!
Link Posted: 5/11/2020 7:53:58 PM EST
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Thinking about putting in a limit order to sell a chunk of my shares if the price spikes up.  Maybe 1.40?
Link Posted: 5/11/2020 8:45:19 PM EST
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If this shit pops super high in O trading with no news.  And then keeps riding down and up in AM you better watch out. As soon as the bell hits there is going to be a massive dump.
Link Posted: 5/11/2020 8:56:16 PM EST
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Originally Posted By KaiK:
If this shit pops super high in O trading with no news.  And then keeps riding down and up in AM you better watch out. As soon as the bell hits there is going to be a massive dump.
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God I hope so. All my lowballs over the last four trading days haven't even come close to filling.

I need some of those sweet, sweet fifty cent shares before Friday. Make it so.
Link Posted: 5/11/2020 9:09:19 PM EST
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Originally Posted By Osprey61:


God I hope so. All my lowballs over the last four trading days haven't even come close to filling.

I need some of those sweet, sweet fifty cent shares before Friday. Make it so.
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Should have picked some up Friday at .53.



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Link Posted: 5/12/2020 2:56:55 AM EST
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T minus 5 until pre-market, boys!

Gonna be a rough ride pre/inter/after I say.

It’s going to be hard not to hold, but I think I’m gonna.
Link Posted: 5/12/2020 3:14:51 AM EST
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Per reddit...

This twitter account posted an article that Microsoft IS acquiring Microvision and may announce it today, the 12th.... the same twitter account is followed by Microsoft...

As I post this, we are at $1.12
Link Posted: 5/12/2020 3:17:55 AM EST
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And away we go!

I bet we see a good rise into the webinar, and a hard dump at about 1:30PM est if it’s not very exciting.   Speculating, and I SHOULD dump my 14k shares then if it does...

...or I’ll hold until next week which I think is the wise decision.
Link Posted: 5/12/2020 3:26:17 AM EST
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Damn this stock is ridiculous lol
Link Posted: 5/12/2020 3:29:08 AM EST
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Originally Posted By burnka871:
Damn this stock is ridiculous lol
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Yes, it is.

And glad to hear your kitten is doing better!
Link Posted: 5/12/2020 3:45:49 AM EST
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Originally Posted By StevesZZ5:


Yes, it is.

And glad to hear your kitten is doing better!
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Thanks brother. She scared the shit out of me. Good thing mvis is paying for all her tests hahaha
Link Posted: 5/12/2020 4:27:06 AM EST
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What’s the play for today? I was thinking about INUV... I’m sitting on 700 shares of ZOM
Also looking at VISL and KTOV
But not feeling confident enough to throw $1k at it..
I refuse to get back on the MVIS emotional roller coaster lol
Link Posted: 5/12/2020 4:37:01 AM EST
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I bought 2300 shares of KTOV at 53cps.  Nice to sit back and watch it do it’s thing.

Thinking about some more MVIS this afternoon when I believe it will dip again.
Link Posted: 5/12/2020 5:32:12 AM EST
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Decisions to make. I'm finally back at my break even point. Sell or hold?
Link Posted: 5/12/2020 6:35:34 AM EST
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Originally Posted By Sparky:
Decisions to make. I'm finally back at my break even point. Sell or hold?
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This stock is schizophrenic and a magnet for manipulation.....I'm going to GTFO at the best average price I can and get the fuck away from it.

These after hours run ups and crazy price action aren't normal.
Link Posted: 5/12/2020 6:40:49 AM EST
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Originally Posted By prill64:


This stock is schizophrenic and a magnet for manipulation.....I'm going to GTFO at the best average price I can and get the fuck away from it.

These after hours run ups and crazy price action aren't normal.
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Seems normal for a biotech pump and dump. But this isn't a biotech.  
Link Posted: 5/12/2020 6:53:04 AM EST
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Originally Posted By RwithThe40:
What’s the play for today? I was thinking about INUV... I’m sitting on 700 shares of ZOM
Also looking at VISL and KTOV
But not feeling confident enough to throw $1k at it..
I refuse to get back on the MVIS emotional roller coaster lol
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I gave the play yesterday on MARK at $1.55, right here in this thread.  

Probably too late now to be a safe buy. I am looking for the right exit point. My stop limit would put me at +$5400 +$5800 $??? for one day. I am having a very good year in the market, up about 120% since just February.

Link Posted: 5/12/2020 6:57:49 AM EST
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Originally Posted By Layer60:

I gave the play yesterday on MARK at $1.55, right here in this thread.  

Probably too late now to be a safe buy. I am looking for the right exit point. My stop limit would put me at +$5400 +$5800 for one day. I am having a very good year in the market, up about 120% since just February.

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Mark is up this morning. What's the deal with it?
Link Posted: 5/12/2020 6:57:58 AM EST
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Originally Posted By Layer60:

I gave the play yesterday on MARK at $1.55, right here in this thread.  

Probably too late now to be a safe buy. I am looking for the right exit point. My stop limit would put me at +$5400 +$5800 for one day. I am having a very good year in the market, up about 120% since just February.

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Link Posted: 5/12/2020 7:02:51 AM EST
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Originally Posted By Layer60:

I gave the play yesterday on MARK at $1.55, right here in this thread.  

Probably too late now to be a safe buy. I am looking for the right exit point. My stop limit would put me at +$5400 +$5800 $7100  for one day. I am having a very good year in the market, up about 120% since just February.

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Yea I saw your post, I just thought it was another pump and dump, and didn’t wanna get in while it was climbing.
How about IBIO? 🌾👀🌾
Link Posted: 5/12/2020 7:06:51 AM EST
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Originally Posted By KaiK:


Mark is up this morning. What's the deal with it?
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It has been climbing slowly for a bit, now rapidly. Someone "leaked" that they have a contract to sell thermal screeners to Doomers to Wynn properties. Whether that leak is true or not is irrelevant to me. I know how the market reacts emotionally, rather than wait for facts, so I figured it was a likely bet for a short term spike.

To be clear, I expect profit taking today.  I will probably exit this morning.
Link Posted: 5/12/2020 7:07:26 AM EST
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KTOV is tempting but I have no context to even speculate.

C'mon MVIS, up up and away!
Link Posted: 5/12/2020 7:09:25 AM EST
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Originally Posted By Layer60:


It has been climbing slowly for a bit, now rapidly. Someone "leaked" that they have a contract to sell thermal screeners to Doomers to Wynn properties. Whether that leak is true or not is irrelevant to me. I know how the market reacts emotionally, rather than wait for facts, so I figured it was a likely bet for a short term spike. 

To be clear, I expect profit taking today.  I will probably exit this morning.
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I see.
Link Posted: 5/12/2020 7:13:40 AM EST
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Originally Posted By KaiK:


I see.
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Originally Posted By Layer60:


It has been climbing slowly for a bit, now rapidly. Someone "leaked" that they have a contract to sell thermal screeners to Doomers to Wynn properties. Whether that leak is true or not is irrelevant to me. I know how the market reacts emotionally, rather than wait for facts, so I figured it was a likely bet for a short term spike. 

To be clear, I expect profit taking today.  I will probably exit this morning.


I see.


My stop limit just fired at $2.20 so I'm officially out. It may still climb for a while but I'll be happy with $6500 for one day of clicking buttons.
Link Posted: 5/12/2020 7:33:05 AM EST
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Originally Posted By Layer60:

My stop limit just fired at $2.20 so I'm officially out. It may still climb for a while but I'll be happy with $6500 for one day of clicking buttons.
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how is this possible when it's selling for $1.79?
Link Posted: 5/12/2020 7:40:15 AM EST
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Originally Posted By jacobsk:


how is this possible when it's selling for $1.79?

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AM trading. Attachment Attached File
Link Posted: 5/12/2020 7:41:50 AM EST
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Originally Posted By Layer60:


My stop limit just fired at $2.20 so I'm officially out. It may still climb for a while but I'll be happy with $6500 for one day of clicking buttons.
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Yeah that's pretty good.

I need to get in on the next rumor.

Where's a good place to find them?
Link Posted: 5/12/2020 7:51:52 AM EST
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I still have 100 shares of Mark that I'll dump at the open . Looks to be $2.25 or so.
My KTOV hasn't done much but my MVIS is up 22% from my buy in yesterday
I'll sell around 1/2 at the open as long as I get $1 or more. The rest can ride
KOPN might have some more to go so I'll try to trade that today
Link Posted: 5/12/2020 7:52:47 AM EST
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I've never done much day trading. Most of my stocks I have tried to hold at least a year. How much of a PITA is it to do taxes on it at the end of the year?
Link Posted: 5/12/2020 7:56:09 AM EST
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Originally Posted By jacobsk:


how is this possible when it's selling for $1.79?

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Originally Posted By Layer60:


My stop limit just fired at $2.20 so I'm officially out. It may still climb for a while but I'll be happy with $6500 for one day of clicking buttons.


how is this possible when it's selling for $1.79?



I can trade aftermarket.
Link Posted: 5/12/2020 7:58:08 AM EST
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Originally Posted By CajunMojo:
I've never done much day trading. Most of my stocks I have tried to hold at least a year. How much of a PITA is it to do taxes on it at the end of the year?
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I have a simple spreadsheet that has what I bought for how much and the date. Next to it I enter when I sold and how much my gain/loss was.
Not much too it
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Originally Posted By CajunMojo:
I've never done much day trading. Most of my stocks I have tried to hold at least a year. How much of a PITA is it to do taxes on it at the end of the year?
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Oh God... it's painful. I just hand my accountant everything. There's virtually no chance it's exactly right, but FedGov always sends me a correction, telling me I owe them more. It's very kind of them.

Although Q4, they said I overpaid by a few bucks. Heh.
Link Posted: 5/12/2020 7:59:42 AM EST
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Someone mentioned SHIP in this thread
Looks like it could be time to buy if the trend continues
Link Posted: 5/12/2020 8:12:56 AM EST
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Originally Posted By colt_thompson:
Someone mentioned SHIP in this thread
Looks like it could be time to buy if the trend continues
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I’m in for 800 shares at .158.
Link Posted: 5/12/2020 8:14:27 AM EST
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Originally Posted By KaiK:


Mark is up this morning. What's the deal with it?
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They make thermal cameras and software to look at large crowds to figure out if anyone has a fever. Supposedly Disney, Walmart and Vegas casinos are buying their stuff. I sold my shares on Friday at 1.18 like a dumbass.
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