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Posted: 3/11/2022 12:26:29 PM EDT
Despite there being a big proxy war in Eastern Europe right now the EU votes to put economic sanctions on both Poland and Hungry.
With allies like that who needs enemies? I've been saying for over 15 years that the EU is a farce and doesn't have any of the old Eastern bloc nations well being in mind and shit like this proves it. It really makes me wonder about the defense integrity of nato. If Russia decides to invade the Baltic States is Germany and France gonna do anything about it? I doubt it anymore. Only hope I see for the old East bloc is to form their own military Confederacy, Intermarinum and acquire nuclear weapons. As Russia wants to take them over and Western Europe just wants to economically exploit them like they have been doing currently since the wall came down. To think we had to save Europe's ass twice only to eventually get to this point. Good luck Poland, You were betrayed once in 39 and you might be betrayed twice in the next few decades, i can only hope that you managed to steal a nuke or 2 when everything fell apart in 89 to 91, Because it looks like you might need it for deterrence. |
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Maintain position.
Accumulate the most powerful weapons they can. Do what they can to manage refugees. |
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Why is EU sectioning Poland and Hungary? Is it because they have refused Syrian refugees yet accepted 1.5million Ukrainians? Refusing tranny story-time in their kindergartens?
The E. European countries like Poland Hungary etc should form a separate alliance. If possible try to be neutral between the EU and whatever is left of Russia. |
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Perhaps Poland is right about not wanting to hold the baggie for the rest of Europe?
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Quoted: All they can do, the problem with acquiring the most powerful weapon Is that the weapons they need are nuclear. They are just so, sandwiched View Quote Make a deal with Isreal. They know what its like to be the redheaded step child. Bet you there's plenty of room for "negotiations". |
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see my post
https://www.ar15.com/forums/General/The-deep-state-globalists-want-a-european-wide-war-for-profits/5-2537246/ Poland just dodged a bullet from the Biden administration and was betrayed again. The biden admin wanted the Poles to transfer those Mig29's. The poles responded, sure we will provide them, but the americans will be the ones to distribute and transfer them, not the Poles. Now the biden admin is backing off. Clown show. These idiots are teterring towards nuclear war while trying to depose Putin, by getting him bogged down in a wider european war. They want to exploit the natural resources of russia, just like Hitler wanted. |
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Quoted: All they can do, the problem with acquiring the most powerful weapon Is that the weapons they need are nuclear. They are just so, sandwiched View Quote Many of Poland's weapons are better than what Germany has right now. That's not an insignificant thing. There are other nations in Eastern Europe that will fight along side them in such a situation. But if it comes right down to it the best orders might be, "hold your course, rig for collision." Stargate SG1: Battle over Antarctica Part 2 |
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Quoted: Why is EU sectioning Poland and Hungary? Is it because they have refused Syrian refugees yet accepted 1.5million Ukrainians? Refusing tranny story-time in their kindergartens? The E. European countries like Poland Hungary etc should form a separate alliance. If possible try to be neutral between the EU and whatever is left of Russia. View Quote They already have a word for it Intermarium Its time to dust it off. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intermarium |
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Quoted: Make a deal with Isreal. They know what its like to be the redheaded step child. Bet you there's plenty of room for "negotiations". View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: All they can do, the problem with acquiring the most powerful weapon Is that the weapons they need are nuclear. They are just so, sandwiched Make a deal with Isreal. They know what its like to be the redheaded step child. Bet you there's plenty of room for "negotiations". |
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So, the Poles need a new alliance. Some sort of Pact, maybe.
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Quoted: Why is EU sectioning Poland and Hungary? Is it because they have refused Syrian refugees yet accepted 1.5million Ukrainians? Refusing tranny story-time in their kindergartens? The E. European countries like Poland Hungary etc should form a separate alliance. If possible try to be neutral between the EU and whatever is left of Russia. View Quote Poland refused to shut down a coal power plant and its associated mine. https://www.fxempire.com/news/article/eu-notifies-poland-it-will-withhold-its-eu-cash-to-cover-unpaid-fines-891417 |
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View Quote The former Warsaw Pact countries form their own alliance, ask the UK to join and do a free trade deal with the USA in 2025. The EU is then toast. |
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When Poland invades Ukraine from the west, will GD just implode on its self?
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Well, if it makes you feel any better on a long enough timeline the EU is probably toast.
Their management of, well... Everything has not been all that impressive and once Europeans start dying in large numbers because of something that isn't coronavirus they will hopefully turn on their masters. Or perhaps they will all obligingly go to their deaths like the good little sheeple they have been made into by decades of propaganda. |
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Quoted: Well, if it makes you feel any better on a long enough timeline the EU is probably toast. Their management of, well... Everything has not been all that impressive and once Europeans start dying in large numbers because of something that isn't coronavirus they will hopefully turn on their masters. Or perhaps they will all obligingly go to their deaths like the good little sheeple they have been made into by decades of propaganda. View Quote England leaving set the stage for the EUs future Italy is still very much on the fence about it The whole entire system of the EU whether it is intentional or not is basically made to exploit weaker nations from having any hope of independent economic prosperity. |
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Quoted: They already have a word for it Intermarium Its time to dust it off. https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/9/9b/Intermarium.png https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intermarium View Quote More like the "Visegrad Group" most recently. |
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Quoted: More like every country in between Russia and Germany against the EU and Russia View Quote That works for me too….I’ll sit back with the popcorn and watch the show. No, not really…but The way things are going and like I mentioned in another thread, with the rapidity of change we have become accustomed to….eh why not? |
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They already have a word for it Intermarium Its time to dust it off. View Quote I prefer the Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth. |
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Quoted: Why is EU sectioning Poland and Hungary? Is it because they have refused Syrian refugees yet accepted 1.5million Ukrainians? Refusing tranny story-time in their kindergartens? The E. European countries like Poland Hungary etc should form a separate alliance. If possible try to be neutral between the EU and whatever is left of Russia. View Quote Because Hungary is not stupid enough to stop the importation of Russian resources as they have no one else to substitute from. In doing so, it'll only hurt their citizens. As for Poland, this is the first I'm hearing about sanctions. LOL off to search. |
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The biggest take away is to not trust this administration or this government.
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I agree the old eastern block countries should form their own version of NATO as except for France the rest of the Western EU countries have almost non existent military forces.
The poles should tell the EU to fuck off.. |
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There are no "good guys" in this scenario.
The EU are a bunch of assholes for sure, and I hope the EU fails spectacularly. But, countries like Poland and Hungary are very much to blame for this themselves. They WANTED to join the EU for all of the benefits, and they promised to follow all of the EU rules - and pretended to give a shit about the EU rules - and then as soon as they were members, they started ignoring rules that they had agreed to follow ... knowing that there is no mechanism to kick someone out of the EU once they are a member. This is exactly like someone who moves into a stupid HOA with lots of rules, and promises to follow the rules and signs the agreement - and then starts breaking the rules of the HOA, and acts like they are the victim. If they didn't want to follow the rules, they shouldn't have agreed to join a club with those rules. This is the perfect example of "when assholes collide" |
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Quoted: I've been saying for over 15 years that the EU is a farce and doesn't have any of the old Eastern bloc nations well being in mind and shit like this proves it. View Quote Probably more accurate that the EU was only ever brought into existence to benefit Germany. |
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Quoted: There are no "good guys" in this scenario. The EU are a bunch of assholes for sure, and I hope the EU fails spectacularly. But, countries like Poland and Hungary are very much to blame for this themselves. They WANTED to join the EU for all of the benefits, and they promised to follow all of the EU rules - and pretended to give a shit about the EU rules - and then as soon as they were members, they started ignoring rules that they had agreed to follow ... knowing that there is no mechanism to kick someone out of the EU once they are a member. This is exactly like someone who moves into a stupid HOA with lots of rules, and promises to follow the rules and signs the agreement - and then starts breaking the rules of the HOA, and acts like they are the victim. If they didn't want to follow the rules, they shouldn't have agreed to join a club with those rules. This is the perfect example of "when assholes collide" View Quote There is a lot (an awful lot) in what you say. But the thing that really ticks off the EU is not so much ignoring their rules, but having the gall to elect right-wing govrnments. The cardinal (unwritten) law of the EU: Progressives only. |
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Quoted: There are no "good guys" in this scenario. The EU are a bunch of assholes for sure, and I hope the EU fails spectacularly. But, countries like Poland and Hungary are very much to blame for this themselves. They WANTED to join the EU for all of the benefits, and they promised to follow all of the EU rules - and pretended to give a shit about the EU rules - and then as soon as they were members, they started ignoring rules that they had agreed to follow ... knowing that there is no mechanism to kick someone out of the EU once they are a member. This is exactly like someone who moves into a stupid HOA with lots of rules, and promises to follow the rules and signs the agreement - and then starts breaking the rules of the HOA, and acts like they are the victim. If they didn't want to follow the rules, they shouldn't have agreed to join a club with those rules. This is the perfect example of "when assholes collide" View Quote Except the EU keeps writing more and more rules and they drift ever leftward. If I bought a house and the HOA had rules about what color I can paint the outside then, yeah I'm stuck with it. But if they pass a new rule saying "you need our permission to repaint the INSIDE". We'll, get bent those aren't the rules I signed up for. |
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Europe will never get along for very long.
All the treaties prior to WW I, the EU. None of it lasted or will last. This is historically true. So all the new world order types in Europe are envisioning a pipe dream. Countries get along so much better when they have compete control over their sovereignty, economy, security. |
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I'm surprised the 3 seas initiative hasn't been discussed as an impetus to all this chaos. (?)
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