Posted: 4/9/2007 3:01:12 PM EDT
| I mean, what if we're all still in the capsule our brain waves feeding the machines. |
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If we were still inside the Matrix, wouldn't it a great joke the machines are playing on us to entertain us with movies that depict reality (the Matrix trilogy), all the while we are thinking it's fiction. That would explain some things, like Keanu Reeves' success. |
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Had a Psych 101 prof ask a similar question. He asked how would we know whether or not we are just brain feeding a device via some sort of interface and all we experience is artificially stimulated. What could one do to find out if this was the case? There were a lot of responses yet he had an answer for every one as how none of them would reveal the truth. So I raised my hand and said one could find out easily.. He asked with a smirk, how. I said grab a gun and blow out your brains.. If we are a brain attached to wires then the blowing apart of our brains would just be a series of electrical signals and the actual brain in a jar would remain intact and live on as there is no tangible action to destroy the brain just artificial signals from a machine. On the other hand.. The class was pretty quiet and he changed the subject 
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Cypher may have been a fuckass, but he was right. If we're in the matrix, who cares? Not like we can do anything about it. Might as well enjoy it just as we would if it were regular life. I mean, honestly, what would you prefer? A life that is to you, for all intents and purposes, real, though it's actually fake, where you are relatively prosperous, with all the modern conveniences, delicious and plentiful food, everything's pretty good... or eking out an existence with high-tech weapons but primitive everything else, where the high point of your year is the orgy-rave in the bullshit neo-animist temple and where you're fated to be stabbed through the heart by a robot or lasered to death or some other painful shit? |
See that's what I don't get. So what if we are nothing but a bunch of batteries for the machines. We are able to still live out our lives. Better to think I'm eating a steak than know I'm eating sythentic protein mush. |
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We ARE in the Matrix. It's being controlled by a Microsoft-using government and it's crashing about every 3 weeks. Its decisions aren't ethical or well-intentioned, but we let ourselves be coddled by internet porn, beer and simple hobbies while larger changes drive the country down the shitter. There is no partisan controller. It's a faceless entity. It's all been a simple setup to sell out the real estate, natural resources and worker's will of the US since 1963.. Is it a conspiracy? Am I paranoid? Is this thing plugged in? Wait. Here comes the crack pipe. Aaaaah. |
That movie really did mess with my head for a little bit. It was the first time I ever walked out of a movie theater and wondered if it was really there.  If this is a Matrix, hook me up with the learning cartridges, please. Just start at the top of the list and work your way to the bottom, editing out the ones a man doesn't really want or need to know...like the hooker's course or the ballet dancing course. And while you're at it, how about a few edits in certain personnel files so I can go to any Air Force installation I want and fly anything I want, anytime, anywhere? CJ |
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I never quite figured out the logic of the movie, even though it was an awesome story. Why woudl the machines keep mankind alive as a source of energy? That seemed completely retarded and contrived to me. Humans are NOT an efficient source of heat. The machines could generate MORE heat - without all the expensive (and undoubtedly energy-intensive life-support machinery and software) by just burning whatever organic fuel they were using to feed the humans - or just growing trees and burning wood in big steam generators, for crying out loud. And if the machines were so clever and advanced, and could drill deep into the earth to find Zion - why the hell couldn't they drill for coal, and just fire up some coal plants. eck, if they were so sophisticated, fission nuclear power plants should be no problems at all. Since when was solar power the alpha and omaga of energy produciton?  The whole premise about keeping humans alive for energy was completely asenine in my mind. Plus - why did they need to be "dreaming" in their virtual reality - why not just keep them all in drug-induced comas? I think the story would have made more sense if the premise was that the machines didn't want to be controlled by humans, but were prohibited from actually KILLING them - like in Asiomv's laws of robotics - so the Matrix was an awesome way to keep the humans alive, safe from harm and "happy" but being in total control. Just my anal beef with the movie. But once they quickly gloss over that huge flaw and move on, it's one of the most awesome movies ever. 
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have you priced prescription drugs lately? obviously with no hillery clinton to propose universal health care the machines couldn't afford the drug coverage on thier insurance premiums. duh and they call you a proffesor  
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To be closely followed by the release of a patch to close an unknown back door that allows hackers in... |
What if our machine captors eventually figure out a way to create enough energy without us? When that happens, they will just eliminate us. |
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It basically is. We are living in a virtual simulation. examine anything around you. Now, think on the atomic level. Take , for instance, the surface that your computer monitor is sitting on. What makes it up? Atoms. What are atoms made of? Protons, neutrons, and electrons. Take one atom, and blow it up to the size of a basketball. Put this on the 50 yard line of a football field. The electrons would be flying around near the end zones. Essentially, the atom is basically hollow. This makes up our world- the things that are around us are basically hollow. When someone falls from a building, what stops them? The ground, yes, but the strength of the electrons (which are even smaller than the protons/neutrons). There is more...... |
A little early in the day to be this stoned, isn't it? |
This is common science. Didn't you learn this in high school? Well, not the simulation part......that is just a correlation. |
I know, I just read your post aloud in the voice of Tommy Chong and it cracked me up is all. |
Alright this is me going nerd but. If you follow the website storys they had after the movies came out the explain some of this. Humans are energy but also used as "RAM" to process things and thats why we for the most part only use a fraction of our brain. |
It is a myth that we use a fraction of our brain. We actually use all of it. Or, as an example, take 90% of a brain away from someone- What do you think is gonna happen? |
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The matrix didn't make any sense whatsoever. Everyone in those movies had an IQ equivelent to a glass of water at room temperature. The machines taking over the world (bad Terminator rip-off for the win) use solar power for some obscure reason, so the humans permanently blot out the sky and destroy 99% of life on earth in a failed attempt to shut them down. Yeah, smooth move, dumbasses. And I suppose your response to someone trying to kidnap you would be to nail your feet to the floor and smirk victoriously? Not only did they just ruin the earth for no reason, but they accomplished the same thing they could have done if they'd just, oh, I don't know, waited for nightfall? I was going to question how the machines conquered all of humanity, but considering the blatant stupidity of the people involved and the fact that most of them died off from the self-imposed nuclear winter, it's really not surprising. The villain from the Smurfs could have beat these guys, and he always got his ass beat by a bunch of homosexual blue midgets with socks on their heads. Now that the machines have humanity right where they want them, what do they do with them? Exterminate them? Fuck no, let's use them as a power source instead of solar power! Brilliant! While we're at it, let's power our central mind with potatoes! First of all, the upkeep on using humans as batteries is ridiculous. They have millions of people living in jars of sexual lubricant who have to consume vitamins and minerals in order to stay alive and relatively healthy for a coma patient. Supposedly, they get fed intravenously with the liquified remains of dead people (and presumably their shit and urine since otherwise a LOT of nutrients would be wasted otherwise), but that's not enough, especially if you have a growing population instead of only adding more humans when you need to replace the dead ones- which has the problem of infants and children not producing the same amount of bioelectrical energy as the adults who just died, and a constant, massive death rate from accidents, disease, war, etc. in the simulation. So you would have to be constantly adding to the population and even increasing the population repeatedly just to keep up with losses. This is bad business practice and bad logistics. You also have a population that can't be nourished solely on their dead. Which means the machines have to spend time producing nutritional supplements for their human batteries, which means massive amounts of time, energy, and resources being wasted that could be used on more practical projects. Then you have the matrix itself. Instead of keeping people in a permanent state of unconsciousness (i.e., coma) they produce a ridiculously complicated simulation of life that still fails to convince people. Worse yet, they have to totally reboot the system (and the human population) repeatedly because it's flawed. So not only are the machines just as retarded as the humans, but they also run the futuristic equivelent of Windows. You know what would be a better solution? Cows produce more bioelectrical energy than humans. Cows are non-sentient (i.e., they can't revolt and are easily amused) and would be satisfied with a really simple program such as an endless field of tasty grass with an occasional even tastier flower or some shit like that. So not only are the machines making things needlessly complicated, but they're also too fucking stupid to come up with a more efficient solution than the one they've got. Speaking of more efficient solutions, why are the machines even bothering with a system that uses living creatures as power sources in the first place? Haven't they ever heard of nuclear power? A single nuke plant produces so many orders of magnitude more electricity than people that it makes people's heads hurt trying to cram that many 0's in there. Or at least cramps their hand when they try to write it out on paper. Not only that, but a nuclear power plant requires MUCH less upkeep than a population of billions of people and doesn't require a stupid simulation either. Plus your average nuke plant lasts about fifty years before you have to go in and work on it, so you're getting at least the same lifetime from your massively-more-efficient power plant as your human vegetables. I'm sure the machines wouldn't mind using coal, petroleum, etc. as power sources either- as machines, they really wouldn't give a rat's ass about pollution anyway since they can't be poisoned or get cancer, and the environment was royally fucked in the ass by the humans with their permanent cloud cover anyway, so that issue's moot. Shit, why not just launch solar power plants into orbit and transmit power via microwave beams or some crap like that? Now let's discuss the massive quantities of stupid that result in the existence of Zion. For some reason, the machines WANT an independent city of humans who constantly sabotage their efforts at world domination. Sure, they never really accomplish much besides acting all zen and shit, but the point remains that they're busy jacking around and breaking things whenever they can. Why would you WANT that? From what I gathered in the movies, Zion exists so they have a population of humans existing outside the matrix so that when they reboot the system (killing off the entire population of the earth, minus the handful of survivors) they have new stock to replenish their living batteries from. Except... how much fucking time does it take for a handful of people (I think they said seven people, plus Neo) to repopulate an entire planet? What are the machines doing for power sources while waiting for the matrix to repopulate, and why don't they just use that exclusively? If they want Zion to exist as a control group/repopulation center, then why bust in and slaughter everything in the place? Fucking retarded. Oh, but it gets better. Note my use of sarcasm in the previous sentence. Zion defends itself with robots armed with gatling guns. But they're too fucking stupid to, I don't know, ARMOR THE FUCKING COCKPIT. The machines are blatantly dumb enough to attack with a bunch of flying razor squids of doom, and you're too stupid to think that maybe you should put something between your soft, squishy flesh and their sharp metal claws, like, say, METAL PLATE? They can build slow, unwieldy robots with gatling guns, but they can't protect the pilot from a kid with a slingshot? Whoever designed those things must have been masturbating furiously when Ripley used her loader to fight the alien queen. Their only other defense is an EMP weapon that, surprise surprise, destroys everything else they could be using to stop the machines. Remember my comment about nailing your feet to the ground to stop someone from kidnapping you? Except this is more like nailing your dick to a table and exposing your ass to the violent homosexual who just got out of prison. The matrix is retarded. It's fucking stupid and doesn't make any sense whatsoever. Shit, Neo uses telekinesis outside of the matrix for fuck's sake! TELEKINESIS ISN'T REAL! Even in the context of a world run by machines and people living in tubes of spooge while hooked up to the world's shittiest sim, it doesn't make sense. I guess since Neo is already Jesus, Optimus Prime, and Superman rolled up into one wooden actor, we can just go ahead and give him some superpowers in real life. |