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7/25/2014 4:44:05 AM EDT
between drinking a soda or beer, if you are under the legal limit, when you are driving?

Why can't I have a beer when I am driving as long as I am over 21 and under .08% BAC?
7/25/2014 4:45:54 AM EDT
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Would you get in a plane if you saw the pilot chugging a Budweiser in the cockpit?
7/25/2014 4:50:51 AM EDT
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Federal Aviation Regulation (FAR) 91.17
The use of alcohol and drugs by pilots is regulated by FAR 91.17. Among other provisions, this regulation states that no person may operate or attempt to operate an aircraft:
• within 8 hours of having consumed alcohol
• while under the influence of alcohol
• with a blood alcohol content of 0.04% or greater
• while using any drug that adversely affects safety


Moot point, there is no fed law that state I can't drive within 8 hours of having a drink
7/25/2014 4:53:19 AM EDT
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Would you get in a plane if you saw the pilot chugging a Budweiser in the cockpit?

Federal Aviation Regulation (FAR) 91.17
The use of alcohol and drugs by pilots is regulated by FAR 91.17. Among other provisions, this regulation states that no person may operate or attempt to operate an aircraft:
• within 8 hours of having consumed alcohol
• while under the influence of alcohol
• with a blood alcohol content of 0.04% or greater
• while using any drug that adversely affects safety


Moot point, there is no fed law that state I can't drive within 8 hours of having a drink


7/25/2014 5:04:46 AM EDT
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Legal drinking and driving would make prosecuting DUI cases more difficult. People could claim they just chugged a 5th right before they were pulled over but it wasn't absorbed until they did a breathalizer an hour later.
7/25/2014 5:56:18 AM EDT
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That already happens. You can refuse all day long and wait for the blood test and they can't "prove" what your BAC was when you where driving.
7/25/2014 5:59:11 AM EDT
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Until recently, there were plenty of states that you could do just exactly that.
7/25/2014 6:00:01 AM EDT
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It used to be like up until the early '80s around here until they made it against the law.   The legal limit was up around 0.15 too.
7/25/2014 6:00:21 AM EDT
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Moot point, there is no fed law that state I can't drive within 8 hours of having a drink
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Would you get in a plane if you saw the pilot chugging a Budweiser in the cockpit?

Federal Aviation Regulation (FAR) 91.17
The use of alcohol and drugs by pilots is regulated by FAR 91.17. Among other provisions, this regulation states that no person may operate or attempt to operate an aircraft:
• within 8 hours of having consumed alcohol
• while under the influence of alcohol
• with a blood alcohol content of 0.04% or greater
• while using any drug that adversely affects safety


Moot point, there is no fed law that state I can't drive within 8 hours of having a drink

You did not answer the question
7/25/2014 6:28:25 AM EDT
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7/25/2014 6:32:48 AM EDT
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Kinda like your original post is a moot point since its against state law to have an open alcoholic beverage?
7/25/2014 6:35:28 AM EDT
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Sure. Dude likes to party. And that's why we have Copilots. Of course since he's making bank as a pilot I'd expect something better than the flavored water which is Budweiser. Maybe a Heineken.
7/25/2014 6:36:18 AM EDT
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open intoxicant ticket isn't so bad. You have to get caught first

Go now my son, just do it, and if you get pulled over, tell them it was me who said it was ok.
7/25/2014 6:58:20 AM EDT
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Kinda like your original post is a moot point since its against state law to have an open alcoholic beverage?
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Moot point, there is no fed law that state I can't drive within 8 hours of having a drink


Kinda like your original post is a moot point since its against state law to have an open alcoholic beverage?

Not really, and If it was ok for him to drink while flying, as long as he is under the legal limit I wouldn't care.
7/25/2014 7:02:13 AM EDT
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OP, why do you hate children?
7/25/2014 7:09:17 AM EDT
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That already happens. You can refuse all day long and wait for the blood test and they can't "prove" what your BAC was when you where driving.
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Legal drinking and driving would make prosecuting DUI cases more difficult. People could claim they just chugged a 5th right before they were pulled over but it wasn't absorbed until they did a breathalizer an hour later.

That already happens. You can refuse all day long and wait for the blood test and they can't "prove" what your BAC was when you where driving.

But a refusal is an automatic DUI in many places ................
7/25/2014 7:14:59 AM EDT
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How can you monitor your bac while drinking (and driving) to be sure you don't reach .081%?
7/25/2014 7:17:21 AM EDT
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trying to justify your DUI you got?
7/25/2014 7:17:37 AM EDT
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But a refusal is an automatic DUI in many places ................
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Legal drinking and driving would make prosecuting DUI cases more difficult. People could claim they just chugged a 5th right before they were pulled over but it wasn't absorbed until they did a breathalizer an hour later.

That already happens. You can refuse all day long and wait for the blood test and they can't "prove" what your BAC was when you where driving.

But a refusal is an automatic DUI in many places ................


Correct.
Then the blood draw and court battle
7/25/2014 7:17:56 AM EDT
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Nope.
7/25/2014 7:19:48 AM EDT
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I have no problem with it, as long as we get to publicly hang you if/when you kill someone when you drive drunk.
7/25/2014 7:19:57 AM EDT
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Congratulations, first stupid  post I've seen today.  then again, I just logged on.



ANY alcohol  in the system of an underage driver  is a DWI charge.  No limit required.
7/25/2014 7:21:10 AM EDT
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How much of a raging alcoholic do you have to be if you can't wait till you get home?
7/25/2014 7:35:42 AM EDT
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Moot point, there is no fed law that state I can't drive within 8 hours of having a drink
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Federal Aviation Regulation (FAR) 91.17
The use of alcohol and drugs by pilots is regulated by FAR 91.17. Among other provisions, this regulation states that no person may operate or attempt to operate an aircraft:
• within 8 hours of having consumed alcohol
• while under the influence of alcohol
• with a blood alcohol content of 0.04% or greater
• while using any drug that adversely affects safety


Moot point, there is no fed law that state I can't drive within 8 hours of having a drink



If the law makes his point moot, then the state laws make your point moot as well.
7/25/2014 8:04:18 AM EDT
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we call that a loss of freedom we once had.....
7/25/2014 8:06:11 AM EDT
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Nope.


Yup.  You could drink beer at 19 too.
7/25/2014 8:06:50 AM EDT
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Yup.  You could drink beer at 19 too.
When I turned 19 I was legal to drink in FL.

 
7/25/2014 8:09:47 AM EDT
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Some people actually just enjoy the taste of beer - doesn't mean you're drinking it to get drunk...

Health-wise, one beer is probably better for you than a 20oz bottle of brown HFCS
7/25/2014 8:10:47 AM EDT
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What's worse is "open container" laws, which make it a crime for a passenger to have a beer.
7/25/2014 8:11:06 AM EDT
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Nope.


Yup.  You could drink beer at 19 too.
When I turned 19 I was legal to drink in FL.  



I remember sharing a beer with my dad while out fishing.   He would stop me after one 7 oz. beer and say "when you're 19 you can drink as many beers as you want."   They changed the law to 21 by the time I turned 19.  
7/25/2014 8:11:07 AM EDT
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Justification is the same thing as denial......
7/25/2014 8:11:51 AM EDT
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Yup.  You could drink beer at 19 too.
When I turned 19 I was legal to drink in FL.  






I remember sharing a beer with my dad while out fishing.   He would stop me after one 7 oz. beer and say "when you're 19 you can drink as many beers as you want."   They changed the law to 21 by the time I turned 19.  
It changed a few months after I turned 19 but was grandfathered in.

 
7/25/2014 8:12:43 AM EDT
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Drink just 1 beer and don't weigh 87 pounds.
7/25/2014 8:14:00 AM EDT
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is it just me or does it just sound plain retarded to drink a beer while driving ...

seems to me you're drinking your barleypop and get in a wreck, sake of argument totally not your fault.

come time for the civil action you're toast
7/25/2014 8:17:29 AM EDT
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Not really, and If it was ok for him to drink while flying, as long as he is under the legal limit I wouldn't care.
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Moot point, there is no fed law that state I can't drive within 8 hours of having a drink


Kinda like your original post is a moot point since its against state law to have an open alcoholic beverage?

Not really, and If it was ok for him to drink while flying, as long as he is under the legal limit I wouldn't care.





Wow

7/25/2014 8:20:28 AM EDT
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if you are that hard up, just buy the can covers that look like sodas.
7/25/2014 8:21:22 AM EDT
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Why can't I have a beer when I am driving as long as I am over 21 and under .08% BAC?
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Mothers Against Drunk Driving and the Insurance lobbies.
7/25/2014 8:47:44 AM EDT
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That was sort of my point above, you just can't argue with some people. They are both arbitrary laws. OP is special.
7/25/2014 8:50:24 AM EDT
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Open containers used to be legal while driving here, but then the fucking buzzkills changes that
However, it still isn't a moving violation.
7/25/2014 8:50:29 AM EDT
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Mothers Against Drunk Driving and the Insurance lobbies.
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between drinking a soda or beer, if you are under the legal limit, when you are driving?

Why can't I have a beer when I am driving as long as I am over 21 and under .08% BAC?


Mothers Against Drunk Driving and the Insurance lobbies.



So you are alleging a conspiracy?
7/25/2014 9:02:25 AM EDT
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So you are alleging a conspiracy?
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between drinking a soda or beer, if you are under the legal limit, when you are driving?

Why can't I have a beer when I am driving as long as I am over 21 and under .08% BAC?


Mothers Against Drunk Driving and the Insurance lobbies.



So you are alleging a conspiracy?


I don't think the Masons were involved.
7/25/2014 9:02:45 AM EDT
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Correct me if I'm wrong but in Vegas you can do this. Every time I have been there people are driving and holding a beer.
7/25/2014 10:24:33 AM EDT
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The same way when you are at dinner or a bar and have a drink or two
7/25/2014 10:28:04 AM EDT
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Correct me if I'm wrong but in Vegas you can do this. Every time I have been there people are driving and holding a beer.
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NRS 484B.150  Drinking alcoholic beverage while driving motor vehicle unlawful; open container of alcoholic beverage; additional penalty for violation committed in work zone.
     1.  It is unlawful for a person to drink an alcoholic beverage while the person is driving or in actual physical control of a motor vehicle upon a highway.
     2.  Except as otherwise provided in this subsection, it is unlawful for a person to have an open container of an alcoholic beverage within the passenger area of a motor vehicle while the motor vehicle is upon a highway. This subsection does not apply to:
     (a) The passenger area of a motor vehicle which is designed, maintained or used primarily for the transportation of persons for compensation; or
     (b) The living quarters of a house coach or house trailer,but does apply to the driver of such a motor vehicle who is in possession or control of an open container of an alcoholic beverage.
     3.  A person who violates any provision of this section may be subject to the additional penalty set forth in NRS 484B.130.
     4.  As used in this section:
     (a) “Alcoholic beverage” has the meaning ascribed to it in NRS 202.015.
     (b) “Open container” means a container which has been opened or the seal of which has been broken.
     (c) “Passenger area” means that area of a vehicle which is designed for the seating of the driver or a passenger.
     (Added to NRS by 1971, 315; A 1991, 838; 2003, 3246; 2013, 542)—(Substituted in revision for NRS 484.448)
7/25/2014 11:45:57 AM EDT
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Congratulations, first stupid  post I've seen today.  then again, I just logged on.



ANY alcohol  in the system of an underage driver  is a DWI charge.  No limit required.
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Pot, meet kettle.  No one said anything about an underage driver.