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4/14/2005 10:32:03 PM EDT
My brother is thinking of learning a trade, either heating and AC or electrician.

What are the pros and cons of each...which should he do?
4/14/2005 10:32:57 PM EDT
[#1]

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My brother is thinking of learning a trade, either heating and AC or electrician.

What are the pros and cons of each...which should he do?



electrician, if he does heating, in the summer time he wont be able to find any work
4/14/2005 10:33:59 PM EDT
[#2]
Do heating and HVAC not go together?

Or are you being a wise guy?
4/14/2005 10:34:31 PM EDT
[#3]

Quoted:

Quoted:
My brother is thinking of learning a trade, either heating and AC or electrician.

What are the pros and cons of each...which should he do?



electrician, if he does heating, in the summer time he wont be able to find any work



HVAC= Heating, Ventilation, Air Conditioning
4/14/2005 10:36:18 PM EDT
[#4]

Quoted:
Do heating and HVAC not go together?

Or are you being a wise guy?



just joking around, sorry!
4/14/2005 10:36:54 PM EDT
[#5]

Quoted:

Quoted:
Do heating and HVAC not go together?

Or are you being a wise guy?



just joking around, sorry!



No offense taken, I am just tired and couldn't tell....not that it would even matter if I was offended!
4/14/2005 10:41:10 PM EDT
[#6]
Take it from someone in the field... Refrigeration and Appliance Repair.

We have a MAJOR shortage of good techs. We need good HONEST and QUALITY techs right now. Especially in the high end trade. This is a country wide problem. You should see all the asshats I follow up all the time. I shit you not, I just had a call on Monday where the technician put the part in BACKWARDS!!! And wonders why the fucker isnt working right.

1. Go to a good trade school
2. Pay ATTENTION to theory
3. Go work at Sears for NO MORE than 1 year. Some stay there as a career choice and that sucks!!!
4. Call up a HIGH END manufacturer (I.e. sub Zero, viking, Bosch, Fisher & Paykel) ask them who they recommend as the best servicer in the area... then go knocking on their door for a job.
4/14/2005 10:43:27 PM EDT
[#7]
He found a class that is 6 days a week, 10 hour days for 2 weeks...is that typical for AC tech?

How to get into appliance repair?
4/14/2005 10:47:45 PM EDT
[#8]
Let me recommend INDUSTRIAL electrician.  More specifically, INSTRUMENT TECHNICIAN.  Good instrument techs are damned hard to find and the job pays pretty good.  But you need to be halfway decent at math, and you REALLY need to be able to think logically.  There's a lot more to it than sizing wire and pulling Romex.
4/14/2005 10:48:47 PM EDT
[#9]
Plumbers get all the chicks.
4/14/2005 11:06:09 PM EDT
[#10]
electrician.
4/14/2005 11:09:49 PM EDT
[#11]

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He found a class that is 6 days a week, 10 hour days for 2 weeks...is that typical for AC tech?

How to get into appliance repair?

too short. I did 600 hours. That one is 120 hours and when you cram all that shit into 2 weeks... too good to be true. Tell him to call the local companies and ask what schools they recommend.

as I said I did 600 hours and that was 6 months time. Not too bad.
4/15/2005 12:02:04 AM EDT
[#12]
...become an investment banker
4/15/2005 12:23:14 AM EDT
[#13]

girls like guys with SKILLS...
4/15/2005 11:35:15 AM EDT
[#14]
My cousin became a "steam fitter" but apparently it's entirely work on huge commerical AC or heat exchange systems.  Took about 10 years of training and now he makes a bundle.
4/15/2005 11:41:32 AM EDT
[#15]

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Plumbers get all the chicks.



They do, trust me.  I've seen those movies...
4/15/2005 11:41:38 AM EDT
[#16]
Electrician
4/15/2005 11:50:40 AM EDT
[#17]
welder
4/15/2005 11:54:07 AM EDT
[#18]
Masonry
If you are good - you are well compensated
If you are very good, can read plans, and can teach/motivate - you can be very well compensated and won't be doing the heavy lifting required for very long.
4/15/2005 11:54:47 AM EDT
[#19]
Neither...  Take it from an Industrial Electrician.  The pay sucks, the hours are ridiculous, and one injury to your hands or feet will put you out of work.  You sweat all summer, freeze all winter, catering to those with money, while yer buddies who went to college make twice your pay sitting in front of a desk.  

There is little in the way of retirement plans unless you're good enough (and willing to relocate, and know someone....) to get on with someone like Carrier or GE, zero appreciation, and your body will be used up by the time you're 50.

Tell him trade school is OK, but we don't hire out of trade school except as an apprentice - here in AZ, that's about 9 bucks an hour to bust yer ass in 120 degree heat.  After 14 years I barely clear 27, and that's WITH benefits - I make twice that much working for myself in property management.

Both trades are in high demand, but I don't know a sparky out there who isn't burned out after 7 or 8 years, and then you're stuck.  If he wants to go that route, he should be working as either while getting his degree in management sciences:  HRM, etc.  

No degree = getting screwed by every pimply-faced 22 Y/O whose mommy sent him for his BSM.
4/15/2005 11:56:08 AM EDT
[#20]
My brother in law dropped out of high school in the 10th grade. He went to work as a plumber a couple years later. Now he is 35 and makes about $90,000 a year(about $45 an hour), and just got promoted to some kind of supervisory role.
4/15/2005 12:00:49 PM EDT
[#21]
Commercial fire sprinkler work. Big $$$
4/15/2005 12:22:03 PM EDT
[#22]

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Neither...  Take it from an Industrial Electrician.  The pay sucks, the hours are ridiculous, and one injury to your hands or feet will put you out of work.  You sweat all summer, freeze all winter, catering to those with money, while yer buddies who went to college make twice your pay sitting in front of a desk.  

There is little in the way of retirement plans unless you're good enough (and willing to relocate, and know someone....) to get on with someone like Carrier or GE, zero appreciation, and your body will be used up by the time you're 50.

Tell him trade school is OK, but we don't hire out of trade school except as an apprentice - here in AZ, that's about 9 bucks an hour to bust yer ass in 120 degree heat.  After 14 years I barely clear 27, and that's WITH benefits - I make twice that much working for myself in property management.

Both trades are in high demand, but I don't know a sparky out there who isn't burned out after 7 or 8 years, and then you're stuck.  If he wants to go that route, he should be working as either while getting his degree in management sciences:  HRM, etc.  

No degree = getting screwed by every pimply-faced 22 Y/O whose mommy sent him for his BSM.


Listen to this man.

If I HAD to pick a trade, I'd go industrial electrician.
I sure am glad I didn't have to. Go to college, get a degree.
4/17/2005 4:08:14 PM EDT
[#23]
How does he need to go to become an electrician in Texas? trade school or just go to work for someone?
4/17/2005 4:32:50 PM EDT
[#24]

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How does he need to go to become an electrician in Texas? trade school or just go to work for someone?


I.B.E.W.

edit, who knew there was an ibel.org?