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Posted: 8/2/2020 2:22:21 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: That's very manageable especially with a low center of gravity. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Short riding season. Lots of gravel roads. Drunk driving is still considered heritage and almost a sport by assholes in trucks all over the region. As much as I would like to get into it, I will have to pass. Still like dirt bikes though. That's very manageable especially with a low center of gravity. I will have to admit, I wouldn't know. Have never rode a street bike on a gravel road. I just imagine some of the shitty loose wash boarded out ones you would have to mind your yourself. |
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Posted: 8/2/2020 2:23:20 AM EDT
[#2]
Only country in the world where the poorest citizens are the fattest citizens
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Posted: 8/2/2020 2:24:52 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I've been looking for 20 year old beaters specifically... Especially in land yacht form. Not as common as you'd think. I was beater shopping a few months ago for my kids first car, there were PLENTY. Maybe it's a location thing or maybe you're not looking in the right spots. Check FB marketplace. |
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Posted: 8/2/2020 2:27:21 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: It costs several hundred dollars in motorcycle class fees just to get a license to drive a motorcycle here. About 50% of the riders I know have a motorcycle license. The MSF class I took had quite a few guys who had rode a long time without the license finally getting one as well. |
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Posted: 8/2/2020 2:28:33 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I will have to admit, I wouldn't know. Have never rode a street bike on a gravel road. I just imagine some of the shitty loose wash boarded out ones you would have to mind your yourself. You just have to let the fucker do what it wants. I don't know how else to describe it. On gravel I tend to let my knees hang out to the sides as opposed to tight on the tank and control things very loosely and gently. That could be a total placebo but I swear the more I fight it the harder it is. |
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Posted: 8/2/2020 2:29:23 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: About 50% of the riders I know have a motorcycle license. The MSF class I took had quite a few guys who had rode a long time without the license finally getting one as well. Bikes don't get pulled over around here. Either not on the radar or not worth the effort. |
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Posted: 8/2/2020 2:59:14 AM EDT
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too many damn cops, who have no respect for trying to get the family up the mountain for churchUS insurance companies suck ass & klls motor bikes & powerful cars too
  I have lived in 4 Asian nations no one uses Mopeds like Filipinos |
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Posted: 8/2/2020 3:08:06 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: too many damn cops, who have no respect for trying to get the family up the mountain for churchUS insurance companies suck ass & klls motor bikes & powerful cars too https://www.sandspice.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/11/habal-habal.jpg I have lived in 4 Asian nations no one uses Mopeds like Filipinos Say what you want.. As someone who has hauled a single fat girl on the back I respect that. Power to weight ratio may have been similar though. |
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Posted: 8/2/2020 3:26:47 AM EDT
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Because most Americans don't drive...they just go places in their car.
ETA: can't spell 
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Posted: 8/2/2020 3:34:41 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Because most Americans don't drive...they just go places in there car. I've always described most of my exes as aiming the vehicle, not driving it. |
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Posted: 8/2/2020 3:42:23 AM EDT
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Because Liquor-cycles are like shit on hills so they work best in flat places like Kansas. The only place in the world where they can be 150cc rather than 50cc.
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Posted: 8/2/2020 3:51:07 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Because Liquor-cycles are like shit on hills so they work best in flat places like Kansas. The only place in the world where they can be 150cc rather than 50cc. Mine is 750 and dirt cheap. You actually need the hills for body mass to store energy.
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Posted: 8/2/2020 4:10:10 AM EDT
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cause US poors are rich compared to the rest of the world.
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Posted: 8/2/2020 4:31:30 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Say what you want.. As someone who has hauled a single fat girl on the back I respect that. Power to weight ratio may have been similar though.  Yep. I hate riding with a passenger, I can't imagine that. |
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Posted: 8/2/2020 5:05:17 AM EDT
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SPNI
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Posted: 8/2/2020 5:07:08 AM EDT
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vegas they do. under 49cc no license no reg no insurance required. They are alot that are "50"cc that "cannot" do over 35 doing 40-50.
No issue with the no livense or reg fuck it, but no insurance means if they hit me riding like an idiot im out.... That said winter i ride alot, really sucks to be on the bike when its 110 out. Hell when i leave the house at 0430 its still around 90.... |
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Posted: 8/2/2020 5:08:14 AM EDT
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I actually know a bunch of people that use scooters or bikes downtown in the city I'm next too. Around me though if you are not doing 50 plus on the main roads you will get run over so the 49cc scooters and even some of the smallers "motorcycle" class scooters just don't get up to speed or do it fast enough. We actually have a good sized scooter club for in the city though.
Its worth saying that in many areas of the world a motorcycle license is easier or cheaper to get while here its the other way around. We have many areas where you can't really ride all year round too. I ride full sized bikes but will use my jeep or truck for moving anything or hitting the store. Quoted: About 50% of the riders I know have a motorcycle license. The MSF class I took had quite a few guys who had rode a long time without the license finally getting one as well. In my state it used to be a really chicken shit ticket if you got caught but had a valid normal license without the endorsement on it. I want to say it was like a $75 dollar ticket. They changed it some years ago so its now like driving without a license so a lot of people I know ended up finally getting the endorsement. |
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Posted: 8/2/2020 5:30:02 AM EDT
[#18]
Quote HistoryQuoted: ....although I find this incomprehensible, a lot of people just don't like the open air experience. Or getting ground to hamburger under Suzy Homemaker and her Chevy Suburban while she chats on the phone. I am, compared top most here, a "poor", but I never considered a moped or anything else like it - too underpowered and slow for all the driving I do. |
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Posted: 8/2/2020 5:32:59 AM EDT
[#19]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Because Harleys ain't cheap.  Uh..yeah, they are. They're cheap as fuck right now. |
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Posted: 8/2/2020 5:37:44 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Uh..yeah, they are. They're cheap as fuck right now. My next door neighbor traded his Harley straight across for an older RV. of course, the landlord is going to kick him out as soon as the feds will let him, so that's just proactive thinking. |
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Posted: 8/2/2020 5:46:37 AM EDT
[#21]
They should
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Posted: 8/2/2020 5:48:09 AM EDT
[#22]
I iz urban poor on my moped (palace not included)
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Posted: 8/2/2020 5:57:28 AM EDT
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Posted: 8/2/2020 6:08:47 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Because a lot of poors are fat and 49cc cannot handle them... This |
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Posted: 8/2/2020 6:09:26 AM EDT
[#25]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Because US poors are generally fucking rich compared to the rest of the world. and this |
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Posted: 8/2/2020 6:21:13 AM EDT
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Tires wear out fast and are rather expensive for normal size bikes. That kills a lot of the savings right there. I thought about getting a bike to save money many years ago. I did precise calculations of cost per mile factoring in maintenance, insurance and fuel savings. The best I could hope to do was almost break even. I bet if OP carefully calculated his TCO, he would find he isn't saving money.
That's ok, I've still had lots of bikes. I don't mind paying extra for all the fun. Heck, the bike I have now only gets 25-26 mpg. |
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Posted: 8/2/2020 11:11:18 AM EDT
[#27]
Quote HistoryI wonder if the helmet actually closes. That dude perfectly matches the aerodynamics of the bike. |
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Posted: 8/2/2020 11:18:07 AM EDT
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Posted: 8/2/2020 11:19:59 AM EDT
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A motorcycle as your one and only vehicle? Because it's super dangerous to ride a motorcycle in a thunderstorm, a regular rain storm, heavy winds, icy roads and many other bad weather conditions. Also, you'd have to make multiple trips back and forth to the grocery store with the small amount of groceries that can pack into those small saddle bags (which, if you were poor, you couldn't afford to buy). Also, insurance is more expensive than a car. You can;t have any more than one passenger, which is no good if you have more than 2 members in your family. You need more reasons, OP? Heck, I'm not poor and I have a motorcycle license, but, haven't ridden or owned a motorcycle in over 40 years. I wouldn't mind getting a motorcycle as a secondary, fun vehicle, but, don't have the money to afford a good one like a BMW and can't afford the extra insurance.
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Posted: 8/2/2020 11:22:29 AM EDT
[#30]
Quote HistoryQuoted: That's very manageable especially with a low center of gravity. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Short riding season. Lots of gravel roads. Drunk driving is still considered heritage and almost a sport by assholes in trucks all over the region. As much as I would like to get into it, I will have to pass. Still like dirt bikes though. That's very manageable especially with a low center of gravity. I don't know your experience driving on gravel, but, mine was that it was like driving on slippery as oil, polished pebbles. |
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Posted: 8/2/2020 11:25:36 AM EDT
[#31]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Because US poors are generally fucking rich compared to the rest of the world. |
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Posted: 8/2/2020 11:26:17 AM EDT
[#32]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Because US poors are generally fucking rich compared to the rest of the world. |
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Posted: 8/2/2020 11:26:38 AM EDT
[#33]
1. It gets really fucking cold and icy in much of the US (notice Russia has much less motorcycles than subtropical/tropical Asian nations).
2. We are a vast nation, often with wide open stretches between cities. Many people live in those wide open places often times 30-60 minutes away from groceries or services. They will buy a week or two of groceries at one time. 3. Even poor people can afford cars in the US. I could buy a car in the next hour for $1000 if I needed to. It will be a shitbox, but it will get me from point A to point B. |
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Posted: 8/2/2020 11:28:01 AM EDT
[#34]
No one in the US is poor with 84 month financing.
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Posted: 8/2/2020 11:30:53 AM EDT
[#35]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I don't know your experience driving on gravel, but, mine was that it was like driving on slippery as oil, polished pebbles. It's going to wiggle around, you just have to relax and let it. I have about 2.5 miles to hit pavement so I get tons of practice. |
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Posted: 8/2/2020 11:34:56 AM EDT
[#36]
Be likin Cadillac Escalades, Lincolns, Chrysler 300s, leased Mercedes.
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Posted: 8/2/2020 11:35:39 AM EDT
[#37]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I don't know your experience driving on gravel, but, mine was that it was like driving on slippery as oil, polished pebbles. Driving on gravel is easy. Stand on the pegs, grip the bike with your knees, keep the front light with a neutral stance on the bike. I became pretty proficient riding my Harley standing. |
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Posted: 8/2/2020 11:36:56 AM EDT
[#38]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I've been looking for 20 year old beaters specifically... Especially in land yacht form. Not as common as you'd think. Have to look post cash for clunkers, 15-16 year old max. Obama killed the land yachts. |
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Posted: 8/2/2020 11:37:49 AM EDT
[#39]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Because we have the richest poor people on the planet and a beater four door sedan has more utility than a death trap scooter. |
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Posted: 8/2/2020 11:38:59 AM EDT
[#40]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I will have to admit, I wouldn't know. Have never rode a street bike on a gravel road. I just imagine some of the shitty loose wash boarded out ones you would have to mind your yourself. Throttle up. The bike doesn't actually know its on gravel, or if its raining. If you get too scared, just close your eyes. |
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Posted: 8/2/2020 11:39:11 AM EDT
[#41]
Can’t put 22” rims or 6 12” woofers on a 49cc scoot
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Posted: 8/2/2020 11:40:27 AM EDT
[#42]
The U.S has a car culture. Car= freedom.
The leftists are trying very hard (and winning) to destroy it. |
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Posted: 8/2/2020 11:42:57 AM EDT
[#43]
Quote HistoryQuoted: cause US poors are rich compared to the rest of the world. Fuck the rest of the world. You come down here and drive a motorcycle in Miami and see how long you last. Fuckers don’t even stop after they hit you. |
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Posted: 8/2/2020 11:43:46 AM EDT
[#44]
Winter
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Posted: 8/2/2020 11:43:58 AM EDT
[#45]
Thailand
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Posted: 8/2/2020 11:43:58 AM EDT
[#46]
“Poor” in the U.S. is nothing like poor in the rest of the world.
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Posted: 8/2/2020 11:45:13 AM EDT
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The US is a large country compared to most. It is not unusual to have to travel 15-30 miles one way for work.
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Posted: 8/2/2020 11:45:25 AM EDT
[#48]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I came to say this, compared to the rest of the world, we don't have poors. /this Our welfare would put you in the upper middle class in most countries on this planet. |
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Posted: 8/2/2020 11:45:56 AM EDT
[#49]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Because US poors are generally fucking rich compared to the rest of the world. |
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Posted: 8/2/2020 11:46:21 AM EDT
[#50]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Because Harleys ain't cheap. They really should be. |
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