[ARCHIVED THREAD] - Why does Arfcom hate progress? (Page 1 of 2)
Posted: 12/16/2010 7:47:42 PM EDT
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Scientists announce a cure for AIDS and Arfcom declares that we need to stay out of God's affairs. Someone invents a car door that rolls under the car and Arfcom declares it to be impractical and overly complex. Hell, half this site still thinks that piston driven uppers are a bad idea! What the hell is it with you people? |
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Quoted: Scientists announce a cure for AIDS and Arfcom declares that we need to stay out of God's affairs. Someone invents a car door that rolls under the car and Arfcom declares it to be impractical and overly complex. Hell, half this site still thinks that piston driven uppers are a bad idea! What the hell is it with you people? I think Piston driven uppers are a good idea but I think that car door that opens down under the body is retarted. What happens when you lose power? Don't say that will never happen. I have woken up to dead batteries before and have had alternators die while driving on the highway. 
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Quoted: Scientists announce a cure for AIDS and Arfcom declares that we need to stay out of God's affairs. Some folks believe that AIDS has value as a morality-enforcement device... I am not one of those people, but they do exist Someone invents a car door that rolls under the car and Arfcom declares it to be impractical and overly complex. If it's a US automaker product, I'd agree - they still haven't perfected the NORMAL car door Hell, half this site still thinks that piston driven uppers are a bad idea! Ironic - you post that in a thread on 'progress'. Piston driven uppers are a REGRESSION to pre-AR15 technology, NOT progress. |
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Not really sure about the aids thing as that's an amazing accomplishment but the others are gimmicky solutions to problems that don't really exist. I mean really what's wrong with plain old doors? If you don't like handles buy a set of 100 dollar pop locks. My issue M4 and privately owned AR's run like raped apes meanwhile I've read about plenty of issues with carrier tilt on the piston stuff. Also like the fact that I can pull the bolt carrier from my Colt and slide it into my Stag. |
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Scientists announce a cure for AIDS and Arfcom declares that we need to stay out of God's affairs. Someone invents a car door that rolls under the car and Arfcom declares it to be impractical and overly complex. Hell, half this site still thinks that piston driven uppers are a bad idea! What the hell is it with you people? 1) Cure for AIDS = good 2) Who cares? 3) Piston uppers more parts to replace a system that works excellent? No thanks. |
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You're arfcom, why don't you address your own inquiries? One thing is certain on AR15.com (in GD) is that you will get beat up for an opinion on Tuesday and praised for it on Wednesday. The tide is constantly changing. Claiming we embrace any specific value is entirely deceptive.
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Scientists announce a cure for AIDS and Arfcom declares that we need to stay out of God's affairs. Someone invents a car door that rolls under the car and Arfcom declares it to be impractical and overly complex. Hell, half this site still thinks that piston driven uppers are a bad idea! What the hell is it with you people? Car doors that roll under, good idea, piston uppers, good for some, not worth the money to me, cure for AIDS, hell yes, I worry about TRG 
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You're arfcom, why don't you address your own inquiries? One thing is certain on AR15.com (in GD) is that you will get beat up for an opinion on Tuesday and praised for it on Wednesday. The tide is constantly changing. Claiming we embrace any specific value is entirely deceptive. More proof of why a true democracy is never a good idea. |
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Scientists announce a cure for AIDS and Arfcom declares that we need to stay out of God's affairs. Someone invents a car door that rolls under the car and Arfcom declares it to be impractical and overly complex. Hell, half this site still thinks that piston driven uppers are a bad idea! What the hell is it with you people? Because like anything else...it comes down to people, with differing ideas, thoughts, feelings, and reactions? |
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Scientists announce a cure for AIDS and Arfcom declares that we need to stay out of God's affairs. Someone invents a car door that rolls under the car and Arfcom declares it to be impractical and overly complex. Hell, half this site still thinks that piston driven uppers are a bad idea! What the hell is it with you people? It's just the vocal ones. I'm betting it not more than 25-30% yea or nay on any issue with another 25-30% holding the opposite value while a good 40% could care less on any one issue one way or the other. So cheer up! Its really not that bad!!!! |
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folks dont necessarily hate progress but the current progress extant in amerika is going the wrong way, more government kontrol, more nanny state, less self reliance, less kommon sense.
bottom line aint much progressing in this kountry, cept loss of individual rights, loss of self reliance, and loss of kommon sense. but its progress that a large percentage of this kountry think is good. around 50 percent give or take, depending on which way the wind is blowing, (and you dont need a weatherman to tell you that). and they've hijacked the progressive label and used to relabel what is in reality a socialist movement, similar to movements in europe. |
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.... Hell, half this site still thinks that piston driven uppers are a bad idea! You lost me on that one. - I agree with you on the rest. When Stoner designed the AR, the gas piston was a well-known system (used in the Garand, the AK, etc), and DI was an improvement. If piston driven uppers were such a great idea, the Rhino gas piston conversion system,(available for less than $200 in the 1980s) would surely have taken off.  The current fad is nothing more than an old fad that's been re-invented and re-invigorated by the fan-boy mindset of the internet, and the perception that since the M16/AR15 is "old" some kind of change is needed, IMO.
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Quoted: Quoted: While promising, they didn't find a cure for AIDS yet. I don't know. A guy with AIDS gets cured of AIDS, I'd call that a cure for AIDS. Lots of people have had the immune systems kill AIDS. My wife's uncle is a doctor and had a patient with HIV and it went away. But IIRC, the article was saying it is an important discovery, but they're not definitely sure if it will cure AIDS for everything. |
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While promising, they didn't find a cure for AIDS yet. I don't know. A guy with AIDS gets cured of AIDS, I'd call that a cure for AIDS. Unless AIDS re-asserts itself, in which case the cure failed. What if AIDS gets "re-asserted" through a rear injection? |
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.... Hell, half this site still thinks that piston driven uppers are a bad idea! You lost me on that one. - I agree with you on the rest. When Stoner designed the AR, the gas piston was a well-known system (used in the Garand, the AK, etc), and DI was an improvement. If piston driven uppers were such a great idea, the Rhino gas piston conversion system,(available for less than $200 in the 1980s) would surely have taken off. The current fad is nothing more than an old fad that's been re-invented and re-invigorated by the fan-boy mindset of the internet, and the perception that since the M16/AR15 is "old" some kind of change is needed, IMO.
Listen to this man. Piston uppers cause AIDS. |
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While promising, they didn't find a cure for AIDS yet. I don't know. A guy with AIDS gets cured of AIDS, I'd call that a cure for AIDS. Lots of people have had the immune systems kill AIDS. My wife's uncle is a doctor and had a patient with HIV and it went away. But IIRC, the article was saying it is an important discovery, but they're not definitely sure if it will cure AIDS for everything. No, no they haven't. You are confusing HIV and AIDS. |
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.... Hell, half this site still thinks that piston driven uppers are a bad idea! You lost me on that one. - I agree with you on the rest. When Stoner designed the AR, the gas piston was a well-known system (used in the Garand, the AK, etc), and DI was an improvement. If piston driven uppers were such a great idea, the Rhino gas piston conversion system,(available for less than $200 in the 1980s) would surely have taken off. The current fad is nothing more than an old fad that's been re-invented and re-invigorated by the fan-boy mindset of the internet, and the perception that since the M16/AR15 is "old" some kind of change is needed, IMO.
Listen to this man. Piston uppers cause AIDS. Yeah, but since we can cure that now, piston uppers aren't so bad. 
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.... Hell, half this site still thinks that piston driven uppers are a bad idea! You lost me on that one. - I agree with you on the rest. When Stoner designed the AR, the gas piston was a well-known system (used in the Garand, the AK, etc), and DI was an improvement. If piston driven uppers were such a great idea, the Rhino gas piston conversion system,(available for less than $200 in the 1980s) would surely have taken off. The current fad is nothing more than an old fad that's been re-invented and re-invigorated by the fan-boy mindset of the internet, and the perception that since the M16/AR15 is "old" some kind of change is needed, IMO.
i want a piston system for my AR so i can shoot corrosive ammo through it and not have to clean as much. |
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.... Hell, half this site still thinks that piston driven uppers are a bad idea! You lost me on that one. - I agree with you on the rest. When Stoner designed the AR, the gas piston was a well-known system (used in the Garand, the AK, etc), and DI was an improvement. If piston driven uppers were such a great idea, the Rhino gas piston conversion system,(available for less than $200 in the 1980s) would surely have taken off. The current fad is nothing more than an old fad that's been re-invented and re-invigorated by the fan-boy mindset of the internet, and the perception that since the M16/AR15 is "old" some kind of change is needed, IMO.
i want a piston system for my AR so i can shoot corrosive ammo through it and not have to clean as much. Buy an AK
Seriously, I am not saying that piston systems for an AR are a bad idea or anything. I am just disputing the notion that they are a step forward, when in fact they are a step backwards. |
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.... Hell, half this site still thinks that piston driven uppers are a bad idea! You lost me on that one. - I agree with you on the rest. When Stoner designed the AR, the gas piston was a well-known system (used in the Garand, the AK, etc), and DI was an improvement. If piston driven uppers were such a great idea, the Rhino gas piston conversion system,(available for less than $200 in the 1980s) would surely have taken off. The current fad is nothing more than an old fad that's been re-invented and re-invigorated by the fan-boy mindset of the internet, and the perception that since the M16/AR15 is "old" some kind of change is needed, IMO.
i want a piston system for my AR so i can shoot corrosive ammo through it and not have to clean as much. Uhh.... |
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Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: .... Hell, half this site still thinks that piston driven uppers are a bad idea! You lost me on that one. - I agree with you on the rest. When Stoner designed the AR, the gas piston was a well-known system (used in the Garand, the AK, etc), and DI was an improvement. If piston driven uppers were such a great idea, the Rhino gas piston conversion system,(available for less than $200 in the 1980s) would surely have taken off. The current fad is nothing more than an old fad that's been re-invented and re-invigorated by the fan-boy mindset of the internet, and the perception that since the M16/AR15 is "old" some kind of change is needed, IMO.i want a piston system for my AR so i can shoot corrosive ammo through it and not have to clean as much. The parts of the AR that corrosive ammo damages, are MORE impacted in a piston gun... And who makes corrosive 5.56? |
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piston ar's are a solution looking for a problem. my 4 years in the Army, the M4 was perfectly reliable and performed excellently in dusty Iraq. Obviously you do not know what the fuck you are talking about, and should defer to a bunch of kids that play a lot of video games and the marketing department of HK.
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Piston driven uppers are a bad idea… “Bad idea” is probably too strong a word. “Unnecessary” is probably a better one. Yes, a piston upper might come in handy in some applications. But for most people you are just bolting a relatively untested component on your rifle that adds weight and complexity. It’s also proprietary technology. Eventually one or two piston set ups will become the standard for people with piston driven ARs and the others will go away. Good luck in getting parts 20 years from now.
The AIDS thing… I guess everyone has their own reasons. Personally I’m very glad someone was apparently cured and I hope that this leads to a general cure for everyone infected with it. But, at the same time, AIDS has become politicized by the AIDS activists and a lot of people are reacting to that. Remember, the AIDS activists rejected any calls for quarantines but instead blamed Reagan for the epidemic. And a car door that folds under the car sounds neat but it probably is too complex and will likely cause problems. When you’ve been around and seen fancy gadgets fail often enough, you tend not to trust them until they’ve been tested for a decade or three. |
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Quoted: folks dont necessarily hate progress but the current progress extant in amerika is going the wrong way, more government kontrol, more nanny state, less self reliance, less kommon sense. bottom line aint much progressing in this kountry, cept loss of individual rights, loss of self reliance, and loss of kommon sense. but its progress that a large percentage of this kountry think is good. around 50 percent give or take, depending on which way the wind is blowing, (and you dont need a weatherman to tell you that). and they've hijacked the progressive label and used to relabel what is in reality a socialist movement, similar to movements in europe.  |