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2/22/2005 11:43:49 AM EDT
A very frequent occurance on the EE that bothers me somewhat is the request for a postal money order.  Now, having my own little tendancies to do things that no one else understands, I humbly ask for an explanation.  Seeing as money orders, regardless of where purchased, are paid for in cash.  Thus do not require a waiting period to "clear".  So, why postal?
2/22/2005 11:46:32 AM EDT
[#1]
Maybe because of the lessened possibility that postal money orders are counterfeit?
2/22/2005 11:49:46 AM EDT
[#2]
By using a post office mony order the purchaser can hedge his/her bets a bit.  If the seller scams  the buyer, post office fraud laws can come into play
2/22/2005 11:51:19 AM EDT
[#3]
US postal service MO's are recognized by more banks then Moe's Bait and Liquor MO's...
2/22/2005 11:52:44 AM EDT
[#4]

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By using a post office mony order the purchaser can hedge his/her bets a bit.  If the seller scams  the buyer, post office fraud laws can come into play



Correct. Mail fraud is a federal offense.
2/22/2005 11:54:03 AM EDT
[#5]
So if you go deadbeat he can get you on fraud and at the same time remove your RKBA at the same time.
2/22/2005 11:54:15 AM EDT
[#6]
Why less possibility of counterfeit.  They are all more or less the same.

And I was thinking Wells Fargo, not a bait shop.  Although, I get better deals and screwed less at the bait shop.............................

Keep in mind, Im no money order expert.  Ive sent a good deal of them as payment, and this site is really the first place Ive seen the postal request.
2/22/2005 11:55:45 AM EDT
[#7]

Quoted:

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By using a post office mony order the purchaser can hedge his/her bets a bit.  If the seller scams  the buyer, post office fraud laws can come into play



Correct. Mail fraud is a federal offense.



If you send a fake money order through the mail, that's mail fraud regardless of whether it's a USPS money order or a Moe's Bait & Liquor money order.
2/22/2005 11:56:53 AM EDT
[#8]
I generally send Western Union M.O.'s, just because of the convenient location. But, if its for a receiver, or over $100., I go postal, for the fraud protection.
2/22/2005 11:56:58 AM EDT
[#9]

Quoted:

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By using a post office mony order the purchaser can hedge his/her bets a bit.  If the seller scams  the buyer, post office fraud laws can come into play



Correct. Mail fraud is a federal offense.



If you send a fake money order through the mail, that's mail fraud regardless of whether it's a USPS money order or a Moe's Bait & Liquor money order.



Dido. Thats what i was thinking
2/22/2005 11:58:18 AM EDT
[#10]
Because "going postal" sounds cool on a gun board.
2/22/2005 11:59:49 AM EDT
[#11]

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US postal service MO's are recognized by more banks then Moe's Bait and Liquor MO's...

OTOH, Moe's Bait and Liquor MOs are just flat out COOL
2/22/2005 1:30:17 PM EDT
[#12]
Well...i just returned from my 40 minute wait at the post office.  And since there is no answer to this question yet that i find to adiquately fill my needs, next time it comes from my bank or it doesnt go at all.  
2/22/2005 1:34:48 PM EDT
[#13]

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Well...i just returned from my 40 minute wait at the post office.  And since there is no answer to this question yet that i find to adiquately fill my needs, next time it comes from my bank or it doesnt go at all.  




I'm not sure what kind of answer would "fill your needs," but the above are all pretty good responses.  Postal money orders are preferred because they bring a little more power of the federal postal inspector than just a regular money order, and because the records of a federal money order purchase are self authenticating in most courts of record.  

You can refuse to pay with money orders if you want;  just be sure you make that clear before you make an offer to someone.
2/22/2005 4:57:41 PM EDT
[#14]

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By using a post office mony order the purchaser can hedge his/her bets a bit.  If the seller scams  the buyer, post office fraud laws can come into play



Correct. Mail fraud is a federal offense.



If you send a fake money order through the mail, that's mail fraud regardless of whether it's a USPS money order or a Moe's Bait & Liquor money order.



Yeah, but Moe's Bait & Liquor doesn't have their own SWAT team.
2/22/2005 4:59:44 PM EDT
[#15]
I like going Postal...that's why.

Sgatr15
2/22/2005 5:01:14 PM EDT
[#16]

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By using a post office mony order the purchaser can hedge his/her bets a bit.  If the seller scams  the buyer, post office fraud laws can come into play




+1


Plus, bank checks are often faked
2/22/2005 5:03:39 PM EDT
[#17]

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By using a post office mony order the purchaser can hedge his/her bets a bit.  If the seller scams  the buyer, post office fraud laws can come into play



Yep
2/22/2005 5:05:46 PM EDT
[#18]
...and the USPO traces and gives the results for a nominal fee.
2/22/2005 5:08:36 PM EDT
[#19]

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By using a post office mony order the purchaser can hedge his/her bets a bit.  If the seller scams  the buyer, post office fraud laws can come into play



Correct. Mail fraud is a federal offense.



If you send a fake money order through the mail, that's mail fraud regardless of whether it's a USPS money order or a Moe's Bait & Liquor money order.



Yeah, but Moe's Bait & Liquor doesn't have their own SWAT team.



No, but they've got The Gimp.
2/22/2005 5:21:03 PM EDT
[#20]

Quoted:

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Well...i just returned from my 40 minute wait at the post office.  And since there is no answer to this question yet that i find to adiquately fill my needs, next time it comes from my bank or it doesnt go at all.  




I'm not sure what kind of answer would "fill your needs," but the above are all pretty good responses.  Postal money orders are preferred because they bring a little more power of the federal postal inspector than just a regular money order, and because the records of a federal money order purchase are self authenticating in most courts of record.  

You can refuse to pay with money orders if you want;  just be sure you make that clear before you make an offer to someone.



Anything can be faked.  Postal money orders would not be much harder than anything else.  If the people on here are really that distrusting(not saying i blame them), why do they bother to sell at all.  

The original question was posed about small change items.  I should have been more clear.  I could understand big number things, over a thousand or something.  

Fraud is fraud regardless of where it comes from.  The self authenticating, could be, never been to court for fraud.  Certified funds are certified funds.  If your gonna get ripped and someone really wants to do it you cant stop them.  

Maybe i just hate the post office.
2/22/2005 5:32:53 PM EDT
[#21]
The PO MO is recognized by most banks like a federal check, they're good to cash for full amount.  Other MO's amy have a delay in processing and acceptance.  As far as all that mail fraud talk, it's rarely enforced, so don't count on it helping you out.  What you can count on though, is that if someone fakes a "johnny O's" MO, it's a big whoopdedoo, low level of FBI processing. However, when someone fakes a government based MO, then the secret service comes a runnin'
2/22/2005 5:37:01 PM EDT
[#22]
Did you know that some M/O's can be stopped?
A postal money order can not be stopped bt a stop payment order, wells Fargo can and others too.
You can get beat by a buyer like that.
2/22/2005 5:42:10 PM EDT
[#23]
I prefer purchasing Waffle House Savings & Loan MO's.
2/22/2005 6:33:53 PM EDT
[#24]
Walmart MO's are only .33 cents.  They are widely recognised.
2/23/2005 1:16:05 PM EDT
[#25]
I'll take payments in MickeyD's gift certificates.