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6/20/2017 2:27:34 PM EDT
Is there a way to turn off the W10 Updater?  

Is there a way to at least be notified and require my approval of every update before it begins?

All I've found is an option for the time of day WHEN it will start the auto-update.
6/20/2017 2:29:11 PM EDT
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Home or Pro?
6/20/2017 2:34:58 PM EDT
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I don't know and both laptops are turned off right at the moment.  As they were free downloads, probably the cheaper Home version.  What is the solution for each?
6/20/2017 2:52:43 PM EDT
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I don't know and both laptops are turned off right at the moment.  As they were free downloads, probably the cheaper Home version.  What is the solution for each?
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In Pro, you can disable it via group policy.  Launch gpedit.msc and find the setting.  A quick Google search will pull up umpteen million articles that will tell you in explicit detail where to find this setting.

In Home, it is a bit more complicated.  The only way to do it that I'm aware of requires setting your wireless network to "metered".  It will only work for wireless networks so don't bother if you use a wired connection.  It will also need to be manually configured for each wireless network so you have to be careful if you connect to new public networks often (airports, work, etc.).

If you are just worried about it wanting to update & restart while you are working, there is also an option to specify a range of hours that updates will be installed and your system will reboot.  Obviously that won't prevent updates from happening but it's an option if you are just concerned about getting interrupted by updates.
6/20/2017 3:41:12 PM EDT
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You should be installing updates.
6/20/2017 4:09:28 PM EDT
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Best to stay at least two generations behind the latest operating system.
6/20/2017 4:21:40 PM EDT
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Oh for fuck's sake.
6/20/2017 6:51:21 PM EDT
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6/20/2017 10:15:42 PM EDT
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<rant mode on!>

Fuck that!

W10 should allow me to chose whether and when I update MY computer.

These stupid forced updates crashed my two PC's for 5 fucking DAYS!  It did so with NO WARNING.  A warning would have allowed me to create a restore point before installing the new updates just in case the updates crashed my computers.  But I guess Microsoft and Bill Gates knows more about what's best for us, doesn't they.

So, yes, there is some wisdom in staying off the "bleeding edge".  

Did I mention I have two machines running W7 and one running XP?  Yes, running XP means I don't have to replace my like-new scanner and my video camera.  In their wisdom, the makers of these devices cunningly chose not to provide W7 and W10 compatible drivers.  Neat, eh?  That way you need to buy new devices.

<rant mode off>
6/20/2017 10:36:34 PM EDT
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My last Win10 update deleted all my bookmarks/Favorites, and also emptied my Trash/Recycling bin, for some unknown reason.  Had to restore to a previous version to get favorites back, and I'll have to back them up in anticipation of next update, which will no doubt reload the last FUBARED Update, as well as more stuff.
6/20/2017 10:57:20 PM EDT
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How odd that I have none of these windows update problems.

I want my computer to update.  Not installing updates is how things like WannaCry spread.  

If you don't want your computer to update, I don't want you on the web.  

And if you're running Windows 7 and Windows XP still, you're on borrowed time until your machines are part of a botnet, if it hasn't happened already -- and the odds are good it has and you just don't know it yet.

It's unfortunate MS had to take the steps they did with Windows 10, but the bottom line is that most people don't do updates and that has to change.
6/21/2017 12:53:33 AM EDT
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I visit askwoody.com, and review the DEFCON status of the Windows updates. I try avoid doing the updates, so if Small&Floppy releases a defective patch (cue Nick Burns saying it never happens!) I have a shot at not having to delete my OS to fix their mistake.

I'm not saying don't install updates, but I am saying be cautious about doing it.

Virus 10 apparently takes that option away from you, unless you're on Pro. (Does Virus 10 have an Expert version?)

And just because 1,2,or even 3 person/people hasn't/haven't died of syphilitic megalomania, doesn't mean it isn't out there...waiting to strike.
6/21/2017 1:39:51 AM EDT
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Because the people who have these problems have likely buttfucked their systems to hell by doing a bunch of useless "tweaks" they read about online from equally useless sources who think they know better about how an OS should be maintained than the people who made it.

Off the top of my head I can't even count how many Windows 10 PCs I'm currently maintaining. I keep them updated and let them run maintenance as scheduled. I have had absolutely none of the bizarre issues the PEBKAC brigade rants about on a daily basis.
6/21/2017 5:24:05 AM EDT
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Because the people who have these problems have likely buttfucked their systems to hell by doing a bunch of useless "tweaks" they read about online from equally useless sources who think they know better about how an OS should be maintained than the people who made it.

Off the top of my head I can't even count how many Windows 10 PCs I'm currently maintaining. I keep them updated and let them run maintenance as scheduled. I have had absolutely none of the bizarre issues the PEBKAC brigade rants about on a daily basis.
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How odd that I have none of these windows update problems.
Because the people who have these problems have likely buttfucked their systems to hell by doing a bunch of useless "tweaks" they read about online from equally useless sources who think they know better about how an OS should be maintained than the people who made it.

Off the top of my head I can't even count how many Windows 10 PCs I'm currently maintaining. I keep them updated and let them run maintenance as scheduled. I have had absolutely none of the bizarre issues the PEBKAC brigade rants about on a daily basis.
"PEBKAC Brigade" -- I like that, I'm going to have to use it more.
6/21/2017 11:57:47 AM EDT
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<rant mode on!>

Fuck that!

W10 should allow me to chose whether and when I update MY computer.

These stupid forced updates crashed my two PC's for 5 fucking DAYS!  It did so with NO WARNING.  A warning would have allowed me to create a restore point before installing the new updates just in case the updates crashed my computers.  But I guess Microsoft and Bill Gates knows more about what's best for us, doesn't they.

So, yes, there is some wisdom in staying off the "bleeding edge".  

Did I mention I have two machines running W7 and one running XP?  Yes, running XP means I don't have to replace my like-new scanner and my video camera.  In their wisdom, the makers of these devices cunningly chose not to provide W7 and W10 compatible drivers.  Neat, eh?  That way you need to buy new devices.

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You don't understand computers, and you're not well educated in technology.  Trying to instruct, educate, or inform you would be a waste of my time.  What amuses me is that you're going to continue to think you know what you don't actually know, and your self-righteous ignorance amuses me very much.
6/21/2017 12:01:21 PM EDT
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Because the people who have these problems have likely buttfucked their systems to hell by doing a bunch of useless "tweaks" they read about online from equally useless sources who think they know better about how an OS should be maintained than the people who made it.

Off the top of my head I can't even count how many Windows 10 PCs I'm currently maintaining. I keep them updated and let them run maintenance as scheduled. I have had absolutely none of the bizarre issues the PEBKAC brigade rants about on a daily basis.
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I love the guy who says you should be "two generations" behind.  It's obvious he's referring to W7, but fails to understand that W7 is now 6 generations behind.
6/22/2017 1:21:10 PM EDT
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Forced updates are why virtually nobody running Windows 10 was hit the latest ransomware attack.
6/22/2017 5:00:20 PM EDT
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My windows 10 home won't update, I went to the windows site and followed the instructions but it will down load but not update.  Any ideas?  error code  0x80070422
6/22/2017 5:38:44 PM EDT
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My windows 10 home won't update, I went to the windows site and followed the instructions but it will down load but not update.  Any ideas?  error code  0x80070422
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Here's a link to Small&Floppy's website, from 2015, talking about this error: Win 10 doesn't install updates

Hope it helps.

InBeforeNickBurnsTypes.
6/22/2017 5:47:44 PM EDT
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Here's a link to Small&Floppy's website, from 2015, talking about this error: Win 10 doesn't install updates

Hope it helps.

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Thanks i'll check it out.  (Edit)  that fixed it thanks again. 
6/22/2017 5:53:07 PM EDT
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In Pro, you can disable it via group policy.  Launch gpedit.msc and find the setting.  A quick Google search will pull up umpteen million articles that will tell you in explicit detail where to find this setting.

In Home, it is a bit more complicated.  The only way to do it that I'm aware of requires setting your wireless network to "metered".  It will only work for wireless networks so don't bother if you use a wired connection.  It will also need to be manually configured for each wireless network so you have to be careful if you connect to new public networks often (airports, work, etc.).

If you are just worried about it wanting to update & restart while you are working, there is also an option to specify a range of hours that updates will be installed and your system will reboot.  Obviously that won't prevent updates from happening but it's an option if you are just concerned about getting interrupted by updates.
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I don't know and both laptops are turned off right at the moment.  As they were free downloads, probably the cheaper Home version.  What is the solution for each?
In Pro, you can disable it via group policy.  Launch gpedit.msc and find the setting.  A quick Google search will pull up umpteen million articles that will tell you in explicit detail where to find this setting.

In Home, it is a bit more complicated.  The only way to do it that I'm aware of requires setting your wireless network to "metered".  It will only work for wireless networks so don't bother if you use a wired connection.  It will also need to be manually configured for each wireless network so you have to be careful if you connect to new public networks often (airports, work, etc.).

If you are just worried about it wanting to update & restart while you are working, there is also an option to specify a range of hours that updates will be installed and your system will reboot.  Obviously that won't prevent updates from happening but it's an option if you are just concerned about getting interrupted by updates.
Not really.  You can defer some updates in some versions of 10, but you can't completely disable them.  If MS really wants to push an update, you're getting it whether you want it or not.

ETA, you can break the update service, but you really, really shouldn't do that.
6/22/2017 7:15:27 PM EDT
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Not really.  You can defer some updates in some versions of 10, but you can't completely disable them.  If MS really wants to push an update, you're getting it whether you want it or not.

ETA, you can break the update service, but you really, really shouldn't do that.
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I don't know and both laptops are turned off right at the moment.  As they were free downloads, probably the cheaper Home version.  What is the solution for each?
In Pro, you can disable it via group policy.  Launch gpedit.msc and find the setting.  A quick Google search will pull up umpteen million articles that will tell you in explicit detail where to find this setting.

In Home, it is a bit more complicated.  The only way to do it that I'm aware of requires setting your wireless network to "metered".  It will only work for wireless networks so don't bother if you use a wired connection.  It will also need to be manually configured for each wireless network so you have to be careful if you connect to new public networks often (airports, work, etc.).

If you are just worried about it wanting to update & restart while you are working, there is also an option to specify a range of hours that updates will be installed and your system will reboot.  Obviously that won't prevent updates from happening but it's an option if you are just concerned about getting interrupted by updates.
Not really.  You can defer some updates in some versions of 10, but you can't completely disable them.  If MS really wants to push an update, you're getting it whether you want it or not.

ETA, you can break the update service, but you really, really shouldn't do that.
yes you can.

It's not a good idea to disable them completely though.

I have restart required updates disabled for auto-install.  It comes up and tells me that there's an update, and then I'll reboot when I need to, but my windows 10 machines never reboot without my permission.
6/23/2017 7:12:36 PM EDT
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My last Win10 update deleted all my bookmarks/Favorites, and also emptied my Trash/Recycling bin, for some unknown reason.  Had to restore to a previous version to get favorites back, and I'll have to back them up in anticipation of next update, which will no doubt reload the last FUBARED Update, as well as more stuff.
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Store your important files in the Recycle Bin, do you?
6/23/2017 7:29:28 PM EDT
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Store your important files in the Recycle Bin, do you?
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OMG you have no idea how stupidly common that is.  Especially with Exchange, people just hit delete "to move it out of my inbox to look at it later."  It's frightening how often I see that in support ticket reports.
6/23/2017 7:35:39 PM EDT
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OMG you have no idea how stupidly common that is.  Especially with Exchange, people just hit delete "to move it out of my inbox to look at it later."  It's frightening how often I see that in support ticket reports.
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I've definitely seen it, not since the Win98 days though. Back when 2GB+ PST's were all the rage.