[ARCHIVED THREAD] - Wolf Poly, steel case 223... (Page 1 of 2)
Posted: 9/5/2014 2:00:16 PM EDT
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Just...how bad IS this stuff? For $225/1000... http://www.sgammo.com/product/wolf-performance-ammunition/1000-rounds-223-rem-55-grain-fmj-wolf-wpa-polyformance-steel-cas# |
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Every other round going to cause stoppages? Too underpowered to cycle successfully? Quoted:
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How bad? What do you mean? Every other round going to cause stoppages? Too underpowered to cycle successfully? In my 3 AR's. It's all I shoot. Never had one problem after 1000's of rounds. I wouldn't trust a gun that can't shoot any kind of ammo you put in it. |
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Just...how bad IS this stuff? For $225/1000... http://www.sgammo.com/product/wolf-performance-ammunition/1000-rounds-223-rem-55-grain-fmj-wolf-wpa-polyformance-steel-cas# |
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Wolf .223 is terrible!
It ruined every gun I had after only 1 shot! It caused rust to eat away all my Magpul furniture! It made the ATF confiscate my 30 round magazines! Please everyone, keep buying only brass! I promise not to buy all the less costly freedom killing steel-cased stockpiles! |
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I bought a case or two not long after it came out, and it ran great. Then prices went full herp-derp, and I haven't bought any since. I might just grab a case of this deal. It wasn't called Polyformance. Just polymer-coated. Is it the same stuff? ETA: Hell, I'm in for a case. My first ammo purchase in for-freakin-ever. |
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I shoot it fairly regularly, and I've never had an issue. I don't notice any differences in how it shoots compared to various brass. It goes bang every time, it ejects, and it hits the paper in the same spots as the brass stuff. The only difference is that this stuff is dirty. It takes me longer to clean the bolt because after a hundred rounds of this stuff, the carbon really starts to stick to the bolt. With my brass stuff, the carbon doesn't start to stick unless I fire a lot more rounds. Quoted:
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Just...how bad IS this stuff? For $225/1000... http://www.sgammo.com/product/wolf-performance-ammunition/1000-rounds-223-rem-55-grain-fmj-wolf-wpa-polyformance-steel-cas# 
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Just...how bad IS this stuff? For $225/1000... http://www.sgammo.com/product/wolf-performance-ammunition/1000-rounds-223-rem-55-grain-fmj-wolf-wpa-polyformance-steel-cas# Is Google not working? 
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How bad? What do you mean? Every other round going to cause stoppages? Too underpowered to cycle successfully? Doubt they would be in business long if that were the case. |
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Quoted: Is Google not working? Quoted: Quoted: Just...how bad IS this stuff? For $225/1000... http://www.sgammo.com/product/wolf-performance-ammunition/1000-rounds-223-rem-55-grain-fmj-wolf-wpa-polyformance-steel-cas# Is Google not working? GD's faster |
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I've shot probably 6000 rounds of the stuff. 5,500 worked flawlessly. 500 was so underpowered it wouldn't cycle 4 Different AR's ranging from 7.5", 10.5", 12" and 16" barrels. It wouldn't even cycle a Galil. It would cycle about 50% if shooting suppressed. And if you get a bad batch like that Wolf will refund your money including shipping. |
| I bought a few thousand rounds of the 62 grain Wolf and it worked fine in numerous ARs I own ranging from 10.5", 11.5", 12.5", 14.5" and 16". Not one single malfunction in any of the guns. All the barrels are Colt or Noveske and I use carbine mil-spec buffer springs and H buffers in the 14.5 and 16", and H2 buffers in the 10.5 through 12.5". I also use the BCM 5-coil heavy duty extractor spring (minus donut) in all my ARs. All bolt carriers are full-auto mil-spec Colt, Noveske and LMT. Gas tubes are Colt, BCM and Noveske. |
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How bad? What do you mean? Every other round going to cause stoppages? Too underpowered to cycle successfully? I've shot about 4000-5000 rounds of the stuff over the past couple of years in a number of different AR's. It was one of the only steel case offerings that functioned in my 14.5" Midlength BCM upper that choked on the majority of steel case. Wolf Poly, Silver Bear, and MFS were the only ones that worked so I wouldn't call it underpowered when compared to shit such as Tula. Thanks for posting the link by the way, just picked up a case. 
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I just wish it didn't have a bi-metal jacket... If they would regualr copper jacket, that's probably most all I would get. Dude, the bi-metal jacket bullet shit is way overblown. While the bi-metal jacket will wear your barrel more quickly, it isn't near as bad as some people make it. Even going off of LuckyGunner's test (which is about worst case scenario, straight mag dumping the shit with loads of barrel heat), you'd still pay for a new barrel with the money you saved before you burned your current barrel out. |
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Wolf .223 is terrible! It ruined every gun I had after only 1 shot! It caused rust to eat away all my Magpul furniture! It made the ATF confiscate my 30 round magazines! Please everyone, keep buying only brass! I promise not to buy all the less costly freedom killing steel-cased stockpiles! 
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Bimetal jacket is probably not overblown. Its a mild copper wash over mild steel projectile, rather than lead.
I have shot thousands of it in my Saiga .223 - CHF/CL barrel. Throat leade is heavily chipped, but the rifle still shoots dead on POA as goos as it ever sid since new. The throat just looks like shit. FWIW you need to see what factory it came out of, because quality varies. Barnaul loads the best steel .223, and most Wolf is currently fr Barnaul. Skip Tulammo, typically undercharged, out of spec cases, some even lacking any case coating. Most Tulammo currently comes from Ulyanovsk, avoid that manufacturer if you can. Google "russian case headstamps" to learn how to ID the factory by looking at box. |