Posted: 3/8/2012 6:54:07 AM EDT
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Anyone know the difference between the P90X and Insanity workout series? Which would you suggest for someone who's about 30 and in slightly better than average shape? I'm looking to get back into prime/collegiate athletic shape and want to grab one of these series.
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| I started P90X when I got diagnosed with osteolysis of the distal clavicle or "weightlifters shoulder". My doc, also a workout guy, wanted me out from under weights and actually recommended P90X. My results exceeded my expectations, it's one of the only programs that actually works as advertised if you stick with the workouts. I recommend this program with no hesitation. |
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You will eventually get both unless the crossfit guys get you to join their cult How does "Insanity" compare to the P90X Plyo workout? Insanity is like plyo on meth and 17 pots of coffee Pretty much spot on. It's fucking crazy. I would love to have been able to watch myself the first time I did it. I'm sure I had a whole lot of WTF on my face. This was one week after finishing p90x and thinking my shit didn't stink. Insanity is a very good cardio workout, but I found it to be a little hard on my knees. I'm in my mid 30s though, so I'm old. 
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I own Insanity and it is definitely very challenging. But I read a comparison of Insanity, P90X, and Rushfit from a guy who was educated in exercise sciences. The P90X was much more well rounded and better put together. Insanity had some pretty harsh criticisms.
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You will eventually get both unless the crossfit guys get you to join their cult How does "Insanity" compare to the P90X Plyo workout? Insanity is like plyo on meth and 17 pots of coffee LOL...thanks man..... It's good stuff, but it is very fast paced and there are no scheduled breaks like with p90x Wow, I considered myself to be in decent shape when I started P90x and the breaks couldn't come soon enough on a couple of the workouts. |
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I own Insanity and it is definitely very challenging. But I read a comparison of Insanity, P90X, and Rushfit from a guy who was educated in exercise sciences. The P90X was much more well rounded and better put together. Insanity had some pretty harsh criticisms. Link to article Agree 100% with P90X being more well rounded. I probably won't utilize Insanity bases on what I scanned from the link that you provided. I have similar complaints with some of the Crossfit program workouts. Crossfit does appear useful in some regards, but I won't base my fitness qualities on a "Fran" time. |
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Quoted: Quoted: I own Insanity and it is definitely very challenging. But I read a comparison of Insanity, P90X, and Rushfit from a guy who was educated in exercise sciences. The P90X was much more well rounded and better put together. Insanity had some pretty harsh criticisms. Link to article Agree 100% with P90X being more well rounded. I probably won't utilize Insanity bases on what I scanned from the link that you provided. I have similar complaints with some of the Crossfit program workouts. Crossfit does appear useful in some regards, but I won't base my fitness qualities on a "Fran" time. And that's exactly why anyone who wants to do CF should find CF programming that is good...which is usually not mainpage CF (although it is sometimes good). |
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Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: I own Insanity and it is definitely very challenging. But I read a comparison of Insanity, P90X, and Rushfit from a guy who was educated in exercise sciences. The P90X was much more well rounded and better put together. Insanity had some pretty harsh criticisms. Link to article Agree 100% with P90X being more well rounded. I probably won't utilize Insanity bases on what I scanned from the link that you provided. I have similar complaints with some of the Crossfit program workouts. Crossfit does appear useful in some regards, but I won't base my fitness qualities on a "Fran" time. And that's exactly why anyone who wants to do CF should find CF programming that is good...which is usually not mainpage CF (although it is sometimes good). Crossfit Football FTW... Mainpage does not have enough SWOD (strength workouts). When I do mainpage cycles, I will sit back a cycle and add in SWOD's on shorter days (sometimes modifying the mainpage WOD as well). And, there are times when mainpage puts up stuff that makes absolutely no sense. |
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Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: I own Insanity and it is definitely very challenging. But I read a comparison of Insanity, P90X, and Rushfit from a guy who was educated in exercise sciences. The P90X was much more well rounded and better put together. Insanity had some pretty harsh criticisms. Link to article Agree 100% with P90X being more well rounded. I probably won't utilize Insanity bases on what I scanned from the link that you provided. I have similar complaints with some of the Crossfit program workouts. Crossfit does appear useful in some regards, but I won't base my fitness qualities on a "Fran" time. And that's exactly why anyone who wants to do CF should find CF programming that is good...which is usually not mainpage CF (although it is sometimes good). Crossfit Football FTW... Mainpage does not have enough SWOD (strength workouts). When I do mainpage cycles, I will sit back a cycle and add in SWOD's on shorter days (sometimes modifying the mainpage WOD as well). And, there are times when mainpage puts up stuff that makes absolutely no sense. Yeah that's a good option, some gym's have good programming (some are terrible too though), Catalyst Athletics has some awesome Oly lifting/Crossfitesque programming, and Coach B's programming is obviously top notch too. |
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I own Insanity and it is definitely very challenging. But I read a comparison of Insanity, P90X, and Rushfit from a guy who was educated in exercise sciences. The P90X was much more well rounded and better put together. Insanity had some pretty harsh criticisms. Link to article Agree 100% with P90X being more well rounded. I probably won't utilize Insanity bases on what I scanned from the link that you provided. I have similar complaints with some of the Crossfit program workouts. Crossfit does appear useful in some regards, but I won't base my fitness qualities on a "Fran" time. And that's exactly why anyone who wants to do CF should find CF programming that is good...which is usually not mainpage CF (although it is sometimes good). I do implement a little CF (20 min of 5-10-15 workouts), but for the most part the entire kit-n-kaboodle program doesn't work for me. About the only thing I see is main-page info. Can you recommend a source? |
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Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: I own Insanity and it is definitely very challenging. But I read a comparison of Insanity, P90X, and Rushfit from a guy who was educated in exercise sciences. The P90X was much more well rounded and better put together. Insanity had some pretty harsh criticisms. Link to article Agree 100% with P90X being more well rounded. I probably won't utilize Insanity bases on what I scanned from the link that you provided. I have similar complaints with some of the Crossfit program workouts. Crossfit does appear useful in some regards, but I won't base my fitness qualities on a "Fran" time. And that's exactly why anyone who wants to do CF should find CF programming that is good...which is usually not mainpage CF (although it is sometimes good). I do implement a little CF (20 min of 5-10-15 workouts), but for the most part the entire kit-n-kaboodle program doesn't work for me. About the only thing I see is main-page info. Can you recommend a source? What people have to remember is that Crossfit is a method...there are many ways to implement that method, some better than others. Some local gyms have good programming. Look at some gyms that did well at the games last year- they probably have good programming. Also, like mentioned above: Crossfit Football Catalyst athletics Mike's Gym (Coach Burgener, he has Oly lifting programming and CF programming now). Some gyms that did well at the games: Brick, Dogtown, New England, Invictus. I haven't actually checked into them much, but based on their performance it's probably good (assuming their competitors weren't on a complete different program). 20 min of 5-10-15 is only a very small part of CF. You should have very short very heavy metcons, medium length medium weight, all body weight, runs, fewer long workouts and of course squat, deads and bench and oly lifting. |
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I own Insanity and it is definitely very challenging. But I read a comparison of Insanity, P90X, and Rushfit from a guy who was educated in exercise sciences. The P90X was much more well rounded and better put together. Insanity had some pretty harsh criticisms. Link to article Agree 100% with P90X being more well rounded. I probably won't utilize Insanity bases on what I scanned from the link that you provided. I have similar complaints with some of the Crossfit program workouts. Crossfit does appear useful in some regards, but I won't base my fitness qualities on a "Fran" time. And that's exactly why anyone who wants to do CF should find CF programming that is good...which is usually not mainpage CF (although it is sometimes good). I do implement a little CF (20 min of 5-10-15 workouts), but for the most part the entire kit-n-kaboodle program doesn't work for me. About the only thing I see is main-page info. Can you recommend a source? What people have to remember is that Crossfit is a method...there are many ways to implement that method, some better than others. Some local gyms have good programming. Look at some gyms that did well at the games last year- they probably have good programming. Also, like mentioned above: Crossfit Football Catalyst athletics Mike's Gym (Coach Burgener, he has Oly lifting programming and CF programming now). Some gyms that did well at the games: Brick, Dogtown, New England, Invictus. I haven't actually checked into them much, but based on their performance it's probably good (assuming their competitors weren't on a complete different program). 20 min of 5-10-15 is only a very small part of CF. You should have very short very heavy metcons, medium length medium weight, all body weight, runs, fewer long workouts and of course squat, deads and bench and oly lifting. Roger that. I'm leery of heavy deads/squats, I had a L4/L5 repair a few years ago and I definitely don't want to replicate that problem. Air squats (with or without a weight vest), goblet squats, lunges, all of the P90X leg work isn't a problem. I'm just a little gun shy about the CF lifts mentioned above. I do understand that those are pretty much the staples of the program. |
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Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: I own Insanity and it is definitely very challenging. But I read a comparison of Insanity, P90X, and Rushfit from a guy who was educated in exercise sciences. The P90X was much more well rounded and better put together. Insanity had some pretty harsh criticisms. Link to article Agree 100% with P90X being more well rounded. I probably won't utilize Insanity bases on what I scanned from the link that you provided. I have similar complaints with some of the Crossfit program workouts. Crossfit does appear useful in some regards, but I won't base my fitness qualities on a "Fran" time. And that's exactly why anyone who wants to do CF should find CF programming that is good...which is usually not mainpage CF (although it is sometimes good). I do implement a little CF (20 min of 5-10-15 workouts), but for the most part the entire kit-n-kaboodle program doesn't work for me. About the only thing I see is main-page info. Can you recommend a source? What people have to remember is that Crossfit is a method...there are many ways to implement that method, some better than others. Some local gyms have good programming. Look at some gyms that did well at the games last year- they probably have good programming. Also, like mentioned above: Crossfit Football Catalyst athletics Mike's Gym (Coach Burgener, he has Oly lifting programming and CF programming now). Some gyms that did well at the games: Brick, Dogtown, New England, Invictus. I haven't actually checked into them much, but based on their performance it's probably good (assuming their competitors weren't on a complete different program). 20 min of 5-10-15 is only a very small part of CF. You should have very short very heavy metcons, medium length medium weight, all body weight, runs, fewer long workouts and of course squat, deads and bench and oly lifting. Roger that. I'm leery of heavy deads/squats, I had a L4/L5 repair a few years ago and I definitely don't want to replicate that problem. Air squats (with or without a weight vest), goblet squats, lunges, all of the P90X leg work isn't a problem. I'm just a little gun shy about the CF lifts mentioned above. I do understand that those are pretty much the staples of the program. Yes they are, as they should be. I'm not a doc, but I know lots of guys with the same problem who squat and deadlift regularly- they just never push to their max. Having a strong back would probably help your situation, you just have to be smart about it. |
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I own Insanity and it is definitely very challenging. But I read a comparison of Insanity, P90X, and Rushfit from a guy who was educated in exercise sciences. The P90X was much more well rounded and better put together. Insanity had some pretty harsh criticisms. Link to article Agree 100% with P90X being more well rounded. I probably won't utilize Insanity bases on what I scanned from the link that you provided. I have similar complaints with some of the Crossfit program workouts. Crossfit does appear useful in some regards, but I won't base my fitness qualities on a "Fran" time. And that's exactly why anyone who wants to do CF should find CF programming that is good...which is usually not mainpage CF (although it is sometimes good). I do implement a little CF (20 min of 5-10-15 workouts), but for the most part the entire kit-n-kaboodle program doesn't work for me. About the only thing I see is main-page info. Can you recommend a source? What people have to remember is that Crossfit is a method...there are many ways to implement that method, some better than others. Some local gyms have good programming. Look at some gyms that did well at the games last year- they probably have good programming. Also, like mentioned above: Crossfit Football Catalyst athletics Mike's Gym (Coach Burgener, he has Oly lifting programming and CF programming now). Some gyms that did well at the games: Brick, Dogtown, New England, Invictus. I haven't actually checked into them much, but based on their performance it's probably good (assuming their competitors weren't on a complete different program). 20 min of 5-10-15 is only a very small part of CF. You should have very short very heavy metcons, medium length medium weight, all body weight, runs, fewer long workouts and of course squat, deads and bench and oly lifting. Roger that. I'm leery of heavy deads/squats, I had a L4/L5 repair a few years ago and I definitely don't want to replicate that problem. Air squats (with or without a weight vest), goblet squats, lunges, all of the P90X leg work isn't a problem. I'm just a little gun shy about the CF lifts mentioned above. I do understand that those are pretty much the staples of the program. Yes they are, as they should be. I'm not a doc, but I know lots of guys with the same problem who squat and deadlift regularly- they just never push to their max. Having a strong back would probably help your situation, you just have to be smart about it. I'm going to try some light (read bar only) work on those two particular lifts. It's encouraging to know that it can be done, I'm not a gimp or anything, just hesitant to jump back on the horse. Thanks for your input. |
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Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: I own Insanity and it is definitely very challenging. But I read a comparison of Insanity, P90X, and Rushfit from a guy who was educated in exercise sciences. The P90X was much more well rounded and better put together. Insanity had some pretty harsh criticisms. Link to article Agree 100% with P90X being more well rounded. I probably won't utilize Insanity bases on what I scanned from the link that you provided. I have similar complaints with some of the Crossfit program workouts. Crossfit does appear useful in some regards, but I won't base my fitness qualities on a "Fran" time. And that's exactly why anyone who wants to do CF should find CF programming that is good...which is usually not mainpage CF (although it is sometimes good). I do implement a little CF (20 min of 5-10-15 workouts), but for the most part the entire kit-n-kaboodle program doesn't work for me. About the only thing I see is main-page info. Can you recommend a source? What people have to remember is that Crossfit is a method...there are many ways to implement that method, some better than others. Some local gyms have good programming. Look at some gyms that did well at the games last year- they probably have good programming. Also, like mentioned above: Crossfit Football Catalyst athletics Mike's Gym (Coach Burgener, he has Oly lifting programming and CF programming now). Some gyms that did well at the games: Brick, Dogtown, New England, Invictus. I haven't actually checked into them much, but based on their performance it's probably good (assuming their competitors weren't on a complete different program). 20 min of 5-10-15 is only a very small part of CF. You should have very short very heavy metcons, medium length medium weight, all body weight, runs, fewer long workouts and of course squat, deads and bench and oly lifting. Roger that. I'm leery of heavy deads/squats, I had a L4/L5 repair a few years ago and I definitely don't want to replicate that problem. Air squats (with or without a weight vest), goblet squats, lunges, all of the P90X leg work isn't a problem. I'm just a little gun shy about the CF lifts mentioned above. I do understand that those are pretty much the staples of the program. Yes they are, as they should be. I'm not a doc, but I know lots of guys with the same problem who squat and deadlift regularly- they just never push to their max. Having a strong back would probably help your situation, you just have to be smart about it. I'm going to try some light (read bar only) work on those two particular lifts. It's encouraging to know that it can be done, I'm not a gimp or anything, just hesitant to jump back on the horse. Thanks for your input. No problem, bar only is a great way to start. One guy I know actually has more of a problem with overhead movements than with squats and deads....just watch the form and don't push too hard! |
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Quoted: Hit the weights and do some cardio. P90x and Insanity are fine but they will not build muscle mass. Of course P90X will build muscle mass, it's heavy on weights. You can build as much as you can lift, and the workouts can be tailored to your specific results. I don't know where people come up with this stuff. |
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Hit the weights and do some cardio. P90x and Insanity are fine but they will not build muscle mass. Of course P90X will build muscle mass, it's heavy on weights. You can build as much as you can lift, and the workouts can be tailored to your specific results. I don't know where people come up with this stuff. The same way many of us think about other workouts. They don't know. I started p90x 2 years ago at 220 lbs. I was 22% BF. I dropped down to 187 and 12% BF. I'm now at 205 and 13% BF. I'm not good at math, but I'm 38 and look pretty good in my Daisy Dukes. 
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Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Hit the weights and do some cardio. P90x and Insanity are fine but they will not build muscle mass. Of course P90X will build muscle mass, it's heavy on weights. You can build as much as you can lift, and the workouts can be tailored to your specific results. I don't know where people come up with this stuff. The same way many of us think about other workouts. They don't know. I started p90x 2 years ago at 220 lbs. I was 22% BF. I dropped down to 187 and 12% BF. I'm now at 205 and 13% BF. I'm not good at math, but I'm 38 and look pretty good in my Daisy Dukes. I dropped initially from 215 at 24% body fat to 178 and 14% body fat, and now I'm up to 191 at 13% BF. Sounds like there's some muscle mass in there somewhere....we musta done something wrong. |