Posted: 10/24/2010 5:26:08 PM EDT
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I'm a bit new to this but it is my understanding that only headshot's can kill zombies, correct? If so then will a simple .22 LR headshot be enough or does an extensive amount of damage need to be meted out within the brain pan? I was thinking of maybe trying for multiple kill headshot's with something like a 5.56mm 75gr, 6.8 SPC or .308 armor piercing round and simple waiting for as many as possible to line up. Thanks
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I'm a bit new to this but it is my understanding that only headshot's can kill zombies, correct?[div] That is incorrect. Lots of things can kill zombies. Like a wood chipper or burning them to ash.  or an ice pick thru the ear if you want to get that close |
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Quoted: Why would you need a .308 in armor piercing? The human skull is not armored.  Well what if it was a Liberal Zombie? Redundant I know but they seem sort of dense to me so in order to score multiple kills with a single shot an armor piercing cartridge would tend to penetrate more skulls, am I wrong?
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Quoted: Quoted: I'm a bit new to this but it is my understanding that only headshot's can kill zombies, correct?[div] That is incorrect. Lots of things can kill zombies. Like a wood chipper or burning them to ash. But the fact of the matter is that they don't cease functioning until there is a sufficient amount of trauma to the brain, correct? |
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I'm a bit new to this but it is my understanding that only headshot's can kill zombies, correct?[div] That is incorrect. Lots of things can kill zombies. Like a wood chipper or burning them to ash. But the fact of the matter is that they don't cease functioning until there is a sufficient amount of trauma to the brain, correct? Well you can cut the head off a chicken and it will keep running around for awhile. Until there is an outbreak we won't know for sure. 
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The brain has to be destroyed or the head severed from the body. That will shut the lights off for a zombie. You can smash their head with a sledge hammer, decapitate them with a machete, run them over with a steamroller, incinerate them to ash, put an arrow between their running lights, or pop them with a .22LR. However, you have to destroy the brain or at least stop the signals coming from it. Obviously a .50 caliber round has a better chance of destroying the brain that a .22LR, but you have to realize that quantity of ammo is just as important as quality of ammo. If I was on the move, 5.56 is my round of choice. If I'm in a barricaded position and I can take my time, place well-aimed shots and plink away with impunity, well - them .22LR is my round of choice. I can do a lot of damage on the rooftop with a couple of bricks of ammo. |
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Why would you need a .308 in armor piercing? The human skull is not armored. Well what if it was a Liberal Zombie? Redundant I know but they seem sort of dense to me so in order to score multiple kills with a single shot an armor piercing cartridge would tend to penetrate more skulls, am I wrong? If you're trying to score multikills with AP bullets, you will still have to worry about deflection. A single shot may be enough for a max of 2 kills. At which point, the energy will have been depleted and the bullet will be more susceptible to deflection. |
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Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Why would you need a .308 in armor piercing? The human skull is not armored. Well what if it was a Liberal Zombie? Redundant I know but they seem sort of dense to me so in order to score multiple kills with a single shot an armor piercing cartridge would tend to penetrate more skulls, am I wrong? If you're trying to score multikills with AP bullets, you will still have to worry about deflection. A single shot may be enough for a max of 2 kills. At which point, the energy will have been depleted and the bullet will be more susceptible to deflection. Well if that's the case then am I better off stepping up to the .300 WinMag or say a .338 or should I step down to the .223/5.56mm and carry more ammo?
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Depends. Undead zombie, or rage zombies? Holy Crap!  There are different categories of Zombies?!?!? You see I didn't know this, oh my! On my way to Google "Zombies" as we speak unless you have a better source? Get the Zombie Survival Guide by Max Brooks. Lots of good info. |
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Quoted: Why would you need a .308 in armor piercing? The human skull is not armored. Well... If you have been around here for a while, you may have noticed multiple threads where I have said that if I get bitten I will be putting on an armored helmet before I turn. So watch out for me.
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I know that ive seen a .22 used to kill hogs (head shot for slaughter) and it worker 100% of the time. Hogs/pigs are used as a substitute quite often for humans in ballistics tests.
I have switched to the CCI segmented .22 rounds for close up woodchucks and any racoons that get into our barns. With a solid .22 i might have to shoot a raccon 2 or 3 times depending on shot placement, but with the segmented its pretty much instant death no matter where their hit, with no pass through. I would say that if i ran out of 5.56 and had to use my trusty .22 that the segmented rounds would do a god job scrambling the brains of a zombie. Your just going to probubly have to stay within 25 yards or so for any type of .22 to work. remember... your not always going to be carrying "ole painless" so kill with what ya got! |
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LOL....watchin out for 'david' with his kitty sticker and reflecter covered hemmit an making engine sounds with his lips....omg....sorry dude...I had a flash back to another movie! ....
Oh man...too much left over candy for me....... good luck with that .22 when they overrun your location...I may horn in on yer date and pick up your weapon as you won't be needing it. |
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I'm a bit new to this but it is my understanding that only headshot's can kill zombies, correct?[div] That is incorrect. Lots of things can kill zombies. Like a wood chipper or burning them to ash. But the fact of the matter is that they don't cease functioning until there is a sufficient amount of trauma to the brain, correct? Well you can cut the head off a chicken and it will keep running around for awhile. Until there is an outbreak we won't know for sure. when you cut off a chickens head you are not cutting off all of its brain. part of its brain is in its neck that is way is runs around also no one does that. lol I makes the meat bad. the best way to do it is cut one of its gugulars so it pumps all of the blood out of its body FYI about the .22lr there was a tread a yaer or so ago that a guy shoot a chicken with a couple of layers of clothing and about 100 yards a way and the .22lr went through it. if i where you I would use 40gr solid .22lr so it get through the skull. also I think a .22lr to the brain ( meaning it goes through the skull and perferates the brain would kill a zombie. about the "fact" there are diferant types of zombies there are many types of zeds sence they are not real. lol so I can write a book or make a movie and change the mythos of the zombie. zombies are like god, you can pick your own and no one can tell you you are wrong. if your zombies dies from a head shoot. then they do!! |
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Shooting a clothing wrapped turkey between 100 and 300 yards with a .22LR.
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wildkow, you'll have to pony up the $25 for team membership, but here are answers to a lot of your questions conerning the "different types of zombies...
Hotlinked, but it's in the archives so team only... K. |
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I probally shoot my Ruger 10/22 more than any other gun i own. Got the cheap o red dot. I'm deadly with that thing.
the negatives about the weakness of the round could be out weighed buy how much ammo you can carry and over all weight of the gun. you could shoot a tight 3 round group into a zeds face no prob, that should be enough to put it down. and have plenty of ammo left in your pack, becasue no one wants to carry 5k rounds of .223 but one COULD carry that much .22LR |
| I guarantee that a 10/22, or any 22lr will do the trick on zombies. In fact I will bet anyone $10,000 dollars that it will work in a zombie apocalypse. If it doesn't work and you get killed by zombies just email me when you come back as the undead and I will pay up in cash or the equivalent in brains, whichever you would prefer. |
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responding to the OP...
Are you really expecting to have zombies line up and be able to score multiple headshots? Is that why you want to step up to 300 mag? Reasons why lining up zombies for headshots will not work effectively: 1. everyone is of different heights(including in their undead state) 2. bullets will not go straight through and out like you think they will 3. having them "line" up will take way too much time(think of other zombies coming from other directions) 4. the only way you could do this would be standing(in harms way, as bait). any other vantage point you would not be lined up i think you got this idea from playing too much Nazi-Zombies. |
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I'm a bit new to this but it is my understanding that only headshot's can kill zombies, correct? If so then will a simple .22 LR headshot be enough or does an extensive amount of damage need to be meted out within the brain pan? A .22LR might do it - if you hit the brain stem or get a lucky shot. Don't count on - get something that will really mess up their brain. I was thinking of maybe trying for multiple kill headshot's with something like a 5.56mm 75gr, 6.8 SPC or .308 armor piercing round and simple waiting for as many as possible to line up.
75gr OTM will mess up the first zombie - but unlikely do to much to the 2nd. Go for something more like the 60gr Nosler Partition  .
A 6.8 FMJ or 130 SP would work well, as would a .308 FMJ. |