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8/26/2014 10:01:36 PM EDT
5hp 240v 30 gallon craftsman compressor 30 years old failed this weekend. rusted tank finally got a hole in it. did not have a catastrophic kaboom. looking for a replacement.any suggestions? general handyman use on weekends not everyday abuse.. thanks in advance..it is a oiled compressor and I am not getting good reviews on oiless compressors....budget is around $500
8/26/2014 10:05:49 PM EDT
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Replace the tank?
8/26/2014 10:06:30 PM EDT
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I have two of those exact compressors, very good CFM output and not very loud.  Stick with an oiled 240v compressor, output will be better and it will certainly be more quiet.  

How much room do you have, and where do you plan on mounting the compressor?  I prefer vertical style compressors, horizontals work just as well.  My main compressor is an Ingersoll Rand 80 gal with the vertical tank, and I have the two Craftsmans as extras.  $500 kind of limits you to some of the hobbyist level compressors, although you can still find a pretty good one in the 60 gallon range.  How much use will the compressor see?  Do you use a lot of high-CFM tools?
8/26/2014 10:16:20 PM EDT
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Can you look for just a replacement tank and keep your motor and compressor?
8/26/2014 10:50:09 PM EDT
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30 yrs old did not even look for tank
8/26/2014 10:53:40 PM EDT
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was asking if any of the new compressors on the market was worth buying ?
8/26/2014 10:54:34 PM EDT
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Have you ever repaired/replaced motor?
8/26/2014 10:57:14 PM EDT
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Quincy makes a damned fine compressor.
8/26/2014 10:57:58 PM EDT
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this is a hori compressor..not much use except for weekends...maybe 2-3 hours a week...thought about other tank but u never know what youre getting as far as rust...etc...
8/26/2014 11:06:19 PM EDT
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motor never been replaced
8/26/2014 11:08:02 PM EDT
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quincy American made? nice compressors!  
8/26/2014 11:09:24 PM EDT
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im thinking mine is gonna be hard to replace at this price @500
8/26/2014 11:10:25 PM EDT
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gonna look for replacement tank   thanks gd
8/26/2014 11:11:53 PM EDT
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Just get a new tank or find someone to patch the old one. The motor and compressor are where the magic happens. A new tank should be a cheaper fix.
8/26/2014 11:14:22 PM EDT
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I love my Kobalt twin cylinder belt driven 30 Gal compressor from Lowe's.  Not too loud, pretty decent CFM.  Previously had an oil-less Craftsman 33 gal.  That thing was LOUD.
8/26/2014 11:19:14 PM EDT
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I don't see how you could get a 5hp compressor that has a real 5hp on it for $500.

The motors are going to be close to that for a decent one.
8/26/2014 11:29:02 PM EDT
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Impressive.  What brand is it?  I work for a major motor manufacturer.
8/26/2014 11:44:55 PM EDT
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Who do you work for?
8/26/2014 11:48:24 PM EDT
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$500 is way more than you need to spend for weekend work. I'm a builder and use mine all the time, a sub $300 compressor will suit you fine.



I have two, a DeWalt (Emglo) and a Rigid. Both cost around $250.
8/26/2014 11:50:38 PM EDT
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Hmmm, I have a 15 year old craftsman, that looks new on the outside.... gets used every two weeks or so.

Is a tank explosion a real risk?
8/26/2014 11:53:39 PM EDT
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Any of the 60 gallon versions from the box stores work well. I have a husky from Home Depot. Paid $425 a few years ago and it's always filled up and turned on. Never a problem.
8/27/2014 12:04:43 AM EDT
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If you don't drain the condensed water, yes.  But only draining leaves a small bit of moisture which could cause corrosion, slowly draining the tank to empty, then running the compressor with the drain wide open should fully dry the tank in 15 minutes or less.



Back in 1998, the ASME code governing these tanks (and nearly all other non-fired pressure vessels) changed to allow slightly higher stresses resulting in thinner required shells and heads.  So newer tanks COULD be made with thinner metal, meaning less safety factor with respect to corrosion.



Now, repairing old tanks is NOTHING anyone other than a code shop (U stamp) should EVER do.  PERIOD.  Don't weld or heat the tank.  Inspection is always a good thing, but paying for it might be a bit of a cost especially if it includes hydrostatic test.
 
8/27/2014 12:22:14 AM EDT
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8/27/2014 12:30:12 AM EDT
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Rolair
8/27/2014 12:32:38 AM EDT
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10/2/2014 9:05:21 PM EDT
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it did not explode! had heard of exploding tanks but my tank just got a pinhole leak from corrosion and just got bigger
10/2/2014 9:07:04 PM EDT
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motor is original motor
10/2/2014 9:23:34 PM EDT
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Compressor motors are rated differently  than regular duty motors. A 5 HP compressor motor or a 5 HP SPL as they are called is about equal to 3 1/2 HP regular motor. You can also tell the difference by the listed amp draw a 5 HP compressor will draw less than 20 at 230 volts where a true 5 HP motor will draw up in the 30 amp range
10/2/2014 9:27:12 PM EDT
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You might try finding one with a ruined compressor.  It is common for guys to burn them up by not changing/filling the oil.  You will end up with an extra motor and a good tank.  Worth an ad on CraigsList.  
10/2/2014 9:59:44 PM EDT
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Take your motor off and examine what you have left so you have an idea on what to look for on your search for a blown up air compressor someone is wanting to sell.  I figure you can make a lot of things work but best to know what you have.



I keep coming back to some of the ingersoll rand stuff and while my budget says it can't do it I am working on figuring out how to spend close to a grand on the thing I guess.  



How did you drain your tank and where was the pinhole?



I know things wear out and I am just kind of wondering about lifespan of this stuff.




10/2/2014 10:06:53 PM EDT
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Go to searspartsdirect.com and see if they have your part(s).  They show parts for my 1980 20gal compressor.
10/2/2014 10:08:58 PM EDT
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Jenny or Ingersoll Rand
10/3/2014 9:04:42 PM EDT
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Take your motor off and examine what you have left so you have an idea on what to look for on your search for a blown up air compressor someone is wanting to sell.  I figure you can make a lot of things work but best to know what you have.

I keep coming back to some of the ingersoll rand stuff and while my budget says it can't do it I am working on figuring out how to spend close to a grand on the thing I guess.  

How did you drain your tank and where was the pinhole?

I know things wear out and I am just kind of wondering about lifespan of this stuff.

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don't blade on me but was NEVER drained as far as I know pinhole is at bottom of tank at seam next    to        drain          valve    
10/3/2014 9:45:42 PM EDT
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Don't try to repair the old one. The pin hole was a warning.  Grainger has this Speedaire 26 gallon for about your budget. I don't see any mounting surface for the compressor/motor, but it could be remotely mounted (outside maybe?) and plumbed into the tank.
10/3/2014 10:09:27 PM EDT
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Stopped by tractor supply and saw an ingersoll rand 5hp 240volt air compressor for 699 I think, it has a 60 gallon tank.



I am trying hard to just figure out how to get this one.  One issue I will have is needing to run it off a generator and that brings up even more fun and games for my wallet to cry about.
10/3/2014 10:18:36 PM EDT
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Quincy.

Made in the USA and well built.

My little 24 gallon one will run my snap on 4in cut off wheel long enough to cur through 4in angle iron. Which isn't bad. The impact doesn't even phase it. Only thing else that will phase it is my snap on air hammer.

Haven't tried running a spray gun or blaster off it yet. Would probably get a secondary filter for it if I was doing an air spray gun.
10/3/2014 11:00:53 PM EDT
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The 5 hp motors on my compressor are about $900 each.

The dealer near me sells Ingersoll Rand and Puma. Both are good units.

Oilless units are so noisy they will make you suck start a shotgun.