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Posted: 10/29/2019 6:24:05 PM EDT
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Must have had an increase in aids amongst the male population. Had to come back to Port to stop the gay sex.
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Posted: 10/29/2019 6:24:26 PM EDT
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Why is so much more of our carrier fleet based over on the Atlantic side? China ain't exactly going to attack from the east coast. And most of Europe is not a threat. Yes, there's Russia, but I think China is a more existential threat. And are our carriers too complex these days? Yeah, yeah, I know about all the high-zoot electronics and all, but when they get so complicated that they have to come home and sit for years to get fixed, they're not as useful as they should be. In WWII, there were enough specialists onboard these ships to fix damn near anything that broke or got shot up, and do it overnight while under attack. And we were turning out complete troop carrier ships in less than a day. Now it takes two years to refit and refuel a ship.  |
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Posted: 10/29/2019 6:24:43 PM EDT
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Well that sucks. Am I the only one that loves the WASP ships? I know jack shit about naval warfare, but they just seem to cover all the damn bases. Park one or 2 of those off the coast of any shithole country and it's game over. And they are a helluva lot cheaper than a carrier, right? Anyone with knowledge on those, please share. |
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Posted: 10/29/2019 6:25:48 PM EDT
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What you dont see and is not broadcasted in the clear are the big ass steel plates being welded underneath with the nuke bombs being attached. Space force! Yeah baby! |
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Posted: 10/29/2019 6:29:49 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: You don't know shit about Aircraft Carrier maintenance or what's involved in working on one. How do you access the reactor room to remove large components? I guess in your world you would push the reactor easy button and "poof" it would be done. 
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Posted: 10/29/2019 6:30:16 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: But if war kicked off tomorrow how long before that boat becomes operational? Probably 3 years.
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Posted: 10/29/2019 6:31:51 PM EDT
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Obama’s Legacy.
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Posted: 10/29/2019 6:32:13 PM EDT
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How often do they dry dock aircraft carriers? And what the hell is this one sitting on??! Are those crates?
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Posted: 10/29/2019 6:32:44 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: And this information is made public  |
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Posted: 10/29/2019 6:32:47 PM EDT
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Overtime is authorized. 3 shifts round the clock. Probably 3 years. Quote HistoryQuoted:
Quoted: But if war kicked off tomorrow how long before that boat becomes operational? Probably 3 years. |
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Posted: 10/29/2019 6:33:34 PM EDT
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Well that sucks. Am I the only one that loves the WASP ships? I know jack shit about naval warfare, but they just seem to cover all the damn bases. Park one or 2 of those off the coast of any shithole country and it's game over. And they are a helluva lot cheaper than a carrier, right? Anyone with knowledge on those, please share. Helicopters, landing craft from the wet well deck and a few Harriers. Not a lot of power projection/strike capability (meaning missiles and bombs), different mission. |
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Posted: 10/29/2019 6:35:46 PM EDT
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How often do they dry dock aircraft carriers? And what the hell is this one sitting on??! Are those crates? https://www.navyrecognition.com/images/stories/news/2013/october/ford_drydockflood_1.jpg I believe they sit on large blocks of wood. |
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Posted: 10/29/2019 6:43:16 PM EDT
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Wasps are amphibious assault ships. Helicopters, landing craft from the wet well deck and a few Harriers. Not a lot of power projection/strike capability (meaning missiles and bombs), different mission. |
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Posted: 10/29/2019 7:13:16 PM EDT
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They were all working under noBama- must be tRump's fault. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Fuckin Obama Jugears (in typical DemocRat form) used the shit out of everything and at the same time cut the fuckin funding for it and wouldn't you know, the next R POTUS gets to foot the bill to rebuild it all. Pretty sure I've seen this movie before. |
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Posted: 10/29/2019 7:31:51 PM EDT
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Oh yes. I seem to recall reading more than one story where she outran her escorts. Raw frikking POWAHHHHHHH! Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Wasn't she far and away the fastest too? I seem to recall reading more than one story where she outran her escorts. Raw frikking POWAHHHHHHH! We talked about the Nimitz boats as compared to the conventional ones at some length and naturally, top speed came up. He never gave me a number but he said that conventional carriers (with minimal escorts) used to head out first on a typical peacetime cruise and the rest of the battle group would catch up to it en route. He said the the nuke boats would let the battle group head out and then run them down on the way. I was like  , then and finally  .
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Posted: 10/29/2019 7:37:44 PM EDT
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A nuke carrier can make wind across deck in still air to launch using the catapults.
They can even tolerate some tail wind and launch. They actual top speed is classified. We got to learn it when doing some SATCOM and other COMs (U2 data link) work for use on carriers. The Chief's mess is still the best on on the ship. They have a 'Come as You Are' section that allows less formal dress. As a civy I had to wear a tie and jacket to the officer's mess. Screw that after working 12 hours. |
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Posted: 10/29/2019 7:44:51 PM EDT
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A nuke carrier can make wind across deck in still air to launch using the catapults. They can even tolerate some tail wind and launch. They actual top speed is classified. We got to learn it when doing some SATCOM and other COMs (U2 data link) work for use on carriers. The Chief's mess is still the best on on the ship. They have a 'Come as You Are' section that allows less formal dress. As a civy I had to wear a tie and jacket to the officer's mess. Screw that after working 12 hours. We ate T-bones, corn on the cob and baked taters that day. 
I asked if they ate like that at sea and he said pretty much. Josh told me the Chiefs used to be able to pretty much get whatever they would pay for but that has evidently been changed since. |
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Posted: 10/29/2019 7:49:57 PM EDT
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Pearl Harbor 2: the Boogaloo !!! https://publicradio1-wpengine.netdna-ssl.com/newscut/files/legacy/content_images/aircraft_carriers_large.jpg |
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Posted: 10/29/2019 8:13:46 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: And this information is made public Put a big sheet over them to hide them from the sats? |
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Posted: 10/29/2019 8:13:58 PM EDT
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Posted: 10/29/2019 8:17:24 PM EDT
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https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EIFbySlX4AYoFLH?format=jpg&name=medium https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EIFbywXW4AERcgr?format=jpg&name=medium https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EIFbzTbXkAAcnHl?format=jpg&name=medium https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EIFbz3_XUAMSOH-?format=jpg&name=medium 
And then Enterprise. |
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Posted: 10/29/2019 8:18:14 PM EDT
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Am I in before Josh condescendingly refutes everything everybody posts in the most condescending way possible?
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Posted: 10/29/2019 8:26:19 PM EDT
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Was thinking the same exact thing. WTF. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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And this information is made public |
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Posted: 10/29/2019 8:29:54 PM EDT
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Go figure, D's run our shit into the ground so everyone gets an Obama phone and R's have to fix it so the next D comes in to do it all over.
Carter did it. Clinton did it, and Obama was the worst. Trump had to make a shitty deal to get funding for our mil. and everyone gets pissy about our budget. And the band played on. |
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Posted: 10/29/2019 8:45:13 PM EDT
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They have some sea control super powers now with F35 sensor suite. I doubt any surface ship would survive an over-the horizon fight with one. Opsec tho |
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Posted: 10/29/2019 8:47:11 PM EDT
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A nuke carrier can make wind across deck in still air to launch using the catapults. They can even tolerate some tail wind and launch. They actual top speed is classified. We got to learn it when doing some SATCOM and other COMs (U2 data link) work for use on carriers. The Chief's mess is still the best on on the ship. They have a 'Come as You Are' section that allows less formal dress. As a civy I had to wear a tie and jacket to the officer's mess. Screw that after working 12 hours. Maybe in the Admiral's mess. There's a dirty shirt Wardroom up forward. |
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Posted: 10/29/2019 8:51:39 PM EDT
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Why in the blue fuck does refueling take 4 years? If one were to whack the enviroweenie regs out and just do it "normal" safely, how long would it REALLY take? |
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Posted: 10/29/2019 8:54:01 PM EDT
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There's more to it than connecting a hose and turning on a pump. And it's a Refueling COMPLEX Overhaul. There's a lot going on, including cutting big holes in the side of the ship. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Why in the blue fuck does refueling take 4 years? If one were to whack the enviroweenie regs out and just do it "normal" safely, how long would it REALLY take? 
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Posted: 10/29/2019 8:54:05 PM EDT
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Trump is about to deploy the California Earthquake Machine and drop L.A. and SanFran into the sea?
https://d6u22qyv3ngwz.cloudfront.net/ad/o6VN/at-and-t-wireless-ok-translator-small-7.jpg IT'S HAPPENING!!!
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Posted: 10/29/2019 8:54:25 PM EDT
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Am I in before Josh condescendingly refutes everything everybody posts in the most condescending way possible? |
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Posted: 10/29/2019 8:55:31 PM EDT
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There's more to it than connecting a hose and turning on a pump. And it's a Refueling COMPLEX Overhaul. There's a lot going on, including cutting big holes in the side of the ship. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Why in the blue fuck does refueling take 4 years? If one were to whack the enviroweenie regs out and just do it "normal" safely, how long would it REALLY take? |
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Posted: 10/29/2019 8:58:40 PM EDT
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Gotta keep the local economy afloat some how.
Just think of how much money would be lost of Newport News had nothing to work on and there were no sailors to blow their weekly allowance.
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Posted: 10/29/2019 9:01:34 PM EDT
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This is what happens when: 1. You elect Dimms to high office, especially President. 2. You run $20T national debt and can't afford parts. The navy's got themselves a cadillac, can't afford the gasoline... or tires... or aircraft maintenance. |
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Posted: 10/29/2019 9:18:09 PM EDT
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Am I in before Josh condescendingly refutes everything everybody posts in the most condescending way possible? |
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Posted: 10/29/2019 9:19:12 PM EDT
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There's more to it than connecting a hose and turning on a pump. And it's a Refueling COMPLEX Overhaul. There's a lot going on, including cutting big holes in the side of the ship. 
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Posted: 10/29/2019 9:28:55 PM EDT
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Why in the blue fuck does refueling take 4 years? If one were to whack the enviroweenie regs out and just do it "normal" safely, how long would it REALLY take? Here is a free book on it: https://www.rand.org/pubs/monograph_reports/MR1632.html 
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Posted: 10/29/2019 9:31:50 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I think maybe yes, Edited by brass |
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Posted: 10/29/2019 9:37:10 PM EDT
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Wasps are amphibious assault ships. Helicopters, landing craft from the wet well deck and a few Harriers. Not a lot of power projection/strike capability (meaning missiles and bombs), different mission. So now we talk about countries like NORK's, Iran, etc...and the WASP's make a lot of sense. |
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Posted: 10/29/2019 9:39:15 PM EDT
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It took the Navy 48 hours to get Yorktown ready to go after extensive damage from the battle of the Coral Sea. Yorktown was able to materially participate in the battle of Midway, although she was sunk after a heroic fight by her crew.
We need that fighting spirit now. |
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Posted: 10/29/2019 10:19:09 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: It's essentially repairing 25 years of accumulated damage, replacing a ton of components, and upgrading just about everything on the ship to more modern systems. The ACDS school was shut down few years prior, so none of my TAOs or OSs had anything but OJT training on it. I was sent through CEC school as CDCO in 2010...which was a waste of time. Here's this cool stuff, you don't have. I used ACDS as a TAO on GW, so I became the "resident expert" LOL. All that shit gets ripped out, new radars, combat suite, etc. Like you said, MAJOR overhaul and upgrade. |
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Posted: 10/29/2019 10:23:21 PM EDT
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It took the Navy 48 hours to get Yorktown ready to go after extensive damage from the battle of the Coral Sea. Yorktown was able to materially participate in the battle of Midway, although she was sunk after a heroic fight by her crew. We need that fighting spirit now. Satellite, internet, radar, LAN, nuclear reactors... Not saying it wasn't an impressive turn around, but she was likely not 100% either. They fixed her good enough to get in the fight, launch and recover aircraft, fuel and arm them. Can't compare a 1942 carrier to 2019. |
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Posted: 10/29/2019 10:51:18 PM EDT
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Lincoln was still rocking the ACDS combat suite on her last deployment before pulling into refuelling in 2012. The ACDS school was shut down few years prior, so none of my TAOs or OSs had anything but OJT training on it. I was sent through CEC school as CDCO in 2010...which was a waste of time. Here's this cool stuff, you don't have. I used ACDS as a TAO on GW, so I became the "resident expert" LOL. All that shit gets ripped out, new radars, combat suite, etc. Like you said, MAJOR overhaul and upgrade. |
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Posted: 10/29/2019 10:52:09 PM EDT
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Yup, I knew they were Assault Ships and that they don't have near the amount of aircraft on them, but they do have a shit load of crayon munchers, choppah's and now (or soon) F35's. It makes for a well rounded package. Knowing quite a bit about Southern African military capabilities (I still have friends and family in the forces down there) leads me to the conclusion that a single WASP class ship with full complement can easily overpower any (probably all) of the militaries in Southern Africa (shitholes) with ease...not that it's an impressive feat, but in my feeble mind it's force projection. So now we talk about countries like NORK's, Iran, etc...and the WASP's make a lot of sense. |
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Posted: 10/29/2019 11:20:52 PM EDT
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Lincoln was still rocking the ACDS combat suite on her last deployment before pulling into refuelling in 2012. The ACDS school was shut down few years prior, so none of my TAOs or OSs had anything but OJT training on it. I was sent through CEC school as CDCO in 2010...which was a waste of time. Here's this cool stuff, you don't have. I used ACDS as a TAO on GW, so I became the "resident expert" LOL. All that shit gets ripped out, new radars, combat suite, etc. Like you said, MAJOR overhaul and upgrade. Quote HistoryQuoted:
Quoted: It's essentially repairing 25 years of accumulated damage, replacing a ton of components, and upgrading just about everything on the ship to more modern systems. The ACDS school was shut down few years prior, so none of my TAOs or OSs had anything but OJT training on it. I was sent through CEC school as CDCO in 2010...which was a waste of time. Here's this cool stuff, you don't have. I used ACDS as a TAO on GW, so I became the "resident expert" LOL. All that shit gets ripped out, new radars, combat suite, etc. Like you said, MAJOR overhaul and upgrade. |
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Posted: 10/29/2019 11:38:01 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Nice! I was an ACDS / Q-21 tech on Truman, then CDCWO on GW with SSDS.
I was disappointed none of my OSs knew how to operate the cool modes of the SPS48 on Lincoln, lost art. I had an OS1 as a TAO that worked magic with that thing. |
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Posted: 10/29/2019 11:49:06 PM EDT
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Whoops,SSDS school, not CEC. Getting old.
I was disappointed none of my OSs knew how to operate the cool modes of the SPS48 on Lincoln, lost art. I had an OS1 as a TAO that worked magic with that thing. Quote HistoryQuoted:
Quoted: Nice! I was an ACDS / Q-21 tech on Truman, then CDCWO on GW with SSDS.
I was disappointed none of my OSs knew how to operate the cool modes of the SPS48 on Lincoln, lost art. I had an OS1 as a TAO that worked magic with that thing. |
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Posted: 10/29/2019 11:53:13 PM EDT
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Fuckin Obama |
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Posted: 10/30/2019 12:26:27 AM EDT
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How often do they dry dock aircraft carriers? And what the hell is this one sitting on??! Are those crates? https://www.navyrecognition.com/images/stories/news/2013/october/ford_drydockflood_1.jpg |
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Posted: 10/30/2019 12:48:33 AM EDT
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And what the hell is this one sitting on??! Are those crates? https://www.google.com/search?complete=0&hl=en&q=aircraft+carrier+dry+dock+pads+under+ship&spell=1&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwi4u_TOlsPlAhXHqp4KHS_9CkoQBQgtKAA&biw=1680&bih=945 First item - https://newsroom.huntingtoningalls.com/releases/photo-release-newport-news-shipbuilding-floods-dry-dock-and-floats-aircraft-carrier The flooding of the dry dock takes place in phases during which various tests are conducted. Initially, the dock is flooded about 4 feet high to its keel blocks, wood-capped concrete pads on which the ship has been supported during construction. |
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Posted: 10/30/2019 12:59:41 AM EDT
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It took the Navy 48 hours to get Yorktown ready to go after extensive damage from the battle of the Coral Sea. Yorktown was able to materially participate in the battle of Midway, although she was sunk after a heroic fight by her crew. We need that fighting spirit now. Nimitz gave the Pearl Harbor yard 3 days to repair the Yorktown. https://www.defensemedianetwork.com/stories/youve-got-three-days-repairing-the-yorktown-after-coral-sea/ It took the Yorktown 18 days to return to Pearl Harbor. During that time the ship's repair crews patched up the flight deck and made other repairs. Only the most urgent repairs were made. Instead of individually fixing the hull’s ruptured seams, an enormous steel plate was welded over the damaged section. On the morning of May 30, more patched than repaired but fit enough to fight, Yorktown steamed out of Pearl Harbor. We don't need to overhaul our fleet of carrier like we are doing battle damage repair, we need the fleet repaired properly so that the repairs will last and the ship will be able to provide service for the next 25+ years. |
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