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1/18/2005 7:38:31 PM EDT
93 mazda navajo.  

I'm driving today and I start smelling burnt clutch.  Then, a bit later, I stop at a stoplight, and get into first gear.  As I let off the clutch there is very little power trransfer.  I barely move, but  slowly gain speed and shift through the gears.  Then at the next light same problem, even worse.  Eventually it just stalls out, and I have to push.

What would cause this, how to fix, how much dough?
1/18/2005 7:44:02 PM EDT
[#1]
Ummm, your clutch is worn out and needs to be replaced????
If you smoked/seized it up good, you'll probably be needing a new flywheel too.
1/18/2005 10:14:41 PM EDT
[#2]
It stalled?

If your clutch was bad, it would rev like no tomorrow and you would go nowhere.

Sounds like something else,  perhaps you left the Ebrake on,  it would smell the same and produce the effect you describe.  Possibly a locked up brake also ( no fault of yours )
1/18/2005 10:40:52 PM EDT
[#3]
Yeah the engine shouldn't stall from a bad clutch.  If you meant stall in the sence that it would nop longer move forward then I can understand and agree on the clutch problem.

Is it a hydraulic, or cable system (probably hydraulic, fords of that era are and their the same as the mazdas)

I had the front caliper sieze on my truck on the way to minifest last summer. Smells just like buring clutrch and has a significant loss of power but it doesnt feel the same as a slipping clutch so I doubt thats it. Siezed calipers have much less effect in lower gears and are harder to overcome in higher gears.
1/18/2005 11:06:02 PM EDT
[#4]
Are you having a hard time getting it into gear? Does the vehicle want to move even though the clutch is depressed? Did the clutch pedal get "easy" to depress?
1/19/2005 4:31:25 AM EDT
[#5]
No, sorry.  It did not stall.  I meant that it would not move anywhere.  It would not transfer power.  It  just revved up, and felt like the clutch was not engaging the flywheel.

For what it's worth, this car just had a new clutch installed before I got it (about 3 weeks ago).  And I have only driven it about 5 days.

Would this be something I caused?
1/19/2005 4:38:24 AM EDT
[#6]
Even if you didn't know how to drive a manual I doubt you could burn up a clutch in 5 days.  Was the work actually performed or did the mechanic adjust the cluch so it would last long enough to be sold and then he wouldn't have any warranty issues and then pocket the difference in $ between an adjustment and a new clutch.  Or... Did the seller stretch the truth about the new clutch?  Something doesn't smell right here.

Kent
1/19/2005 4:38:50 AM EDT
[#7]
Time for a new clutch..

1/19/2005 4:40:49 AM EDT
[#8]

Quoted:
Even if you didn't know how to drive a manual I doubt you could burn up a clutch in 5 days.  Was the work actually performed or did the mechanic adjust the cluch so it would last long enough to be sold and then he wouldn't have any warranty issues and then pocket the difference in $ between an adjustment and a new clutch.  Or... Did the seller stretch the truth about the new clutch?  Something doesn't smell right here.

Kent



+1
1/19/2005 4:52:11 AM EDT
[#9]

Quoted:
Even if you didn't know how to drive a manual I doubt you could burn up a clutch in 5 days.  Was the work actually performed or did the mechanic adjust the cluch so it would last long enough to be sold and then he wouldn't have any warranty issues and then pocket the difference in $ between an adjustment and a new clutch.  Or... Did the seller stretch the truth about the new clutch?  Something doesn't smell right here.

Kent



No kidding.  
I went more than 5 days on a clutch that was soaked in gear lube.
Smoked, slipped, etc.  It finally came apart when I was taking off from a stop light.
Sounded like something exploded in the bellhousing.  
I drove home with the rivits spinning against the flywheel.
3000rpm, but only 10mph.  But I made it.

I totally agree that it would be impossible to toast a clutch in 5 days if it was new.

UNLESS, it was installed new, but not put together right and isn't clamping correctly.
Do you have good clutch pedal feel?  (do you know what a good clutch feels like?)

1/19/2005 6:03:15 AM EDT
[#10]

Quoted:
It stalled?

If your clutch was bad, it would rev like no tomorrow and you would go nowhere.

Sounds like something else,  perhaps you left the Ebrake on,  it would smell the same and produce the effect you describe.  Possibly a locked up brake also ( no fault of yours )



+1
1/19/2005 6:05:19 AM EDT
[#11]

Quoted:

Quoted:
It stalled?

If your clutch was bad, it would rev like no tomorrow and you would go nowhere.

Sounds like something else,  perhaps you left the Ebrake on,  it would smell the same and produce the effect you describe.  Possibly a locked up brake also ( no fault of yours )



+1

+1
1/19/2005 6:16:01 AM EDT
[#12]
Sounds like the dealer did a half assed job and did not replace the release bearing/slave cylinder assembly, or perhaps it needed a fresh pressure plate as well as the clutch disc.  Either way the shop owes you a repair.  OPs
1/19/2005 9:11:21 AM EDT
[#13]

Quoted:
No, sorry.  It did not stall.  I meant that it would not move anywhere.  It would not transfer power.  It  just revved up, and felt like the clutch was not engaging the flywheel.

For what it's worth, this car just had a new clutch installed before I got it (about 3 weeks ago).  And I have only driven it about 5 days.

Would this be something I caused?



That makes a little more sense.

It could just be an adjustment needs to be done to fix it.

Do you have the reciept for the clutch job?

Take it back there and have them fix it correctly,  it would be damn near impossible to fry a clutch in 5 days, even if you were trying.

1/19/2005 9:13:13 AM EDT
[#14]
partially disengaged clutch
1/19/2005 5:05:21 PM EDT
[#15]
I had a guy put a new valve cover gasket onto an L4 once, and he really snugged the bolts down, "so it won't leak you know", damn if it didn't leak all over the rear of the engine down into the bellhousing and onto the clutch disc.

That clutch was toast in no time at all.  Too bad for him too because there was plenty of friction material found to be left on that disc once I had it apart.
1/19/2005 5:08:32 PM EDT
[#16]

Quoted:
No, sorry.  It did not stall.  I meant that it would not move anywhere.  It would not transfer power.  It  just revved up, and felt like the clutch was not engaging the flywheel.

For what it's worth, this car just had a new clutch installed before I got it (about 3 weeks ago).  And I have only driven it about 5 days.

Would this be something I caused?



Probably a poor install.  Throwout bearing may not be doing it's job right...  Take it to whoever installed it and make them check it.
1/19/2005 5:24:38 PM EDT
[#17]

Quoted:

Quoted:
No, sorry.  It did not stall.  I meant that it would not move anywhere.  It would not transfer power.  It  just revved up, and felt like the clutch was not engaging the flywheel.

For what it's worth, this car just had a new clutch installed before I got it (about 3 weeks ago).  And I have only driven it about 5 days.

Would this be something I caused?



That makes a little more sense.

It could just be an adjustment needs to be done to fix it.

Do you have the reciept for the clutch job?

Take it back there and have them fix it correctly,  it would be damn near impossible to fry a clutch in 5 days, even if you were trying.




Agree. It sounds like an adjustment problem. Take it back.
1/19/2005 5:59:30 PM EDT
[#18]
It is hydraulic and there are no adjustments that can be made. I don't know what could make it go out so fast except possibly the slave cylinder is not returning. If so, you should feel a differance in petal effort I think. It could just have a defective pressure plate or disk. I honestly have not done much clutch work on these models but I do work with others that have. I will see if I can find out anything useful Thursday.

Cartech, Ford SMT
1/20/2005 4:59:17 PM EDT
[#19]
Well, not able to add much I'm afraid. The only other thing we came up with today was maybe an oil leak that soaked the clutch, but that would be an obvious leak I think. I have seen clutches goe out on hi-po mustangs in a few days, but they were not properly broken in(500 miles before full power was the recommendation, guy slammed over 500 HP to it right off the bat).

Cartech
1/20/2005 8:56:08 PM EDT
[#20]
Well, thanks for your input anyway.  I'll get it checked out and report back.