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7/30/2006 4:44:55 PM EDT
first off thank you for all you do for our communities. second i have a question. my sister got a speeding ticket and when the officer gave it to her he didnt have her sign it. does that void it or anything?
7/30/2006 4:50:07 PM EDT
[#1]
no
7/30/2006 4:59:08 PM EDT
[#2]
thank you. she'll just have to pay it.
7/31/2006 3:24:41 AM EDT
[#3]
Have her check into traffic school if she is eligible.  In MOST states, you pay for the traffic school, but no points, if you have not used this option in X many years.
Art in KY
7/31/2006 4:24:59 AM EDT
[#4]
Just mail in the payment, if they let you, and be done with it.  Taking it to court is usually a waste of time unless you have a lawyer in the family who can fix it for you for free.  The city still wants there money, though.  The judge might make her pay a $75 parking ticket.

Most people around here take it to court on the chance that we won't show up.  What they don't know is that we lose days for not showing up to court.
7/31/2006 8:54:07 AM EDT
[#5]
That would void our's.

I would contact the court. Since she did not make a written promise to appear, she has no legal requirement to appear.

Each place is different, but our courts would reject the ticket if the Sgt. wasn't sharp enough to catch the error first.

7/31/2006 12:45:37 PM EDT
[#6]
Not saying that there are unethical LEO's (or other .gov officials ) but I would contact the court, and see if they're on the docket for the offense.

I could hypothetically see an unsigned cite being annotated "refused to sign" by the officer, especially if others have gone unnoticed and the officer caught hell for it.

Not a slam, just a quirk of human nature.
7/31/2006 7:58:27 PM EDT
[#7]
None of our tickets require a signature of anyone other than the officer.

Can write up the ticket in its entirety without having to stand there writing or hand the ticket to the person it is addressed to then expect it to be returned.
7/31/2006 8:03:18 PM EDT
[#8]
The only time you sign is for a summons (promise to appear) in lieu of going to jail for an arrestable offense.  The driver doesn't sign for tickets (speeding, etc.)

That's how it works in Indianapolis anyway, not sure if that's a statewide procedure.
8/1/2006 8:08:33 PM EDT
[#9]
In NJ we the driver is not required to sign the ticket.  Hell, Most jersyans would not sign it anyway.  Advise your sister to set up a court, and speak with the Prosecutor/ Distirct Attorney.  Maybe a deal can be worked out were it does not hurt her driving record.
8/2/2006 12:09:23 PM EDT
[#10]
My standard advice is to call and speak with the officer.

Ask if there is any reduced charge with 0 points she can plea to and if so how she could go about doing it.

He/she will say yes or no.

Unless she was a PIA, long driving history or otherwise deserving of the moving violation I often will adjust the offense for someone with the stones to come and ask.

That said I couldn't give to piles about traffic tickets so I may be in the minority.  (and I am on the traffic detail too, glad I work nights so I can still find some real criminals)

Joe
8/2/2006 6:35:05 PM EDT
[#11]

Quoted:
I couldn't give to piles about traffic tickets so I may be in the minority.

Joe


I'll gladly be in that minority with you.  I've written fewer than 10 in 7.5 years.
8/2/2006 8:30:08 PM EDT
[#12]
Some guys just live to give tickets.  I hate it.
8/2/2006 10:57:58 PM EDT
[#13]
I am not the biggest traffic nut but I still get out there and mix it up from time to time. I would guess that i write about 10-20 a month, on average.

Some shit is so stupid i just can't pass it up.


I give absolutely, positively, no slack, ever, for child restraint violations. I don't care if the violator is a direct descendant of Christ himself. If that was the case he/she should miracle some restraints on their children.
8/2/2006 11:21:46 PM EDT
[#14]
In Henry and Hancock counties the only tickets that have to be signed by the driver are Misdemeanors (Arrestable Offenses).  Infractions don't have to be signed by the driver.
8/4/2006 6:35:37 AM EDT
[#15]

Quoted:
I am not the biggest traffic nut but I still get out there and mix it up from time to time. I would guess that i write about 10-20 a month, on average.

Some shit is so stupid i just can't pass it up.


I give absolutely, positively, no slack, ever, for child restraint violations. I don't care if the violator is a direct descendant of Christ himself. If that was the case he/she should miracle some restraints on their children.


And "No Insurance" for me.  Every single time I take an accident report and the good guy who has insurance finds out the other driver doesn't.... I hate that look on people's faces.  You know, the "I just got screwed" look.

Recently I did a search warrant on a house who was making fake temporary plates (the kind when you buy a new car.  In MO, it is a simple piece of paper that you tape in the rear window.)  Come to find out she was also printing of fake insurance ID cards as well.  Seems to be becoming more and more common around here.  Folks work so hard to get around to law rather than just obeying.
8/4/2006 7:30:42 AM EDT
[#16]

Quoted:

Quoted:
I am not the biggest traffic nut but I still get out there and mix it up from time to time. I would guess that i write about 10-20 a month, on average.

Some shit is so stupid i just can't pass it up.


I give absolutely, positively, no slack, ever, for child restraint violations. I don't care if the violator is a direct descendant of Christ himself. If that was the case he/she should miracle some restraints on their children.


And "No Insurance" for me.  Every single time I take an accident report and the good guy who has insurance finds out the other driver doesn't.... I hate that look on people's faces.  You know, the "I just got screwed" look.

Recently I did a search warrant on a house who was making fake temporary plates (the kind when you buy a new car.  In MO, it is a simple piece of paper that you tape in the rear window.)  Come to find out she was also printing of fake insurance ID cards as well.  Seems to be becoming more and more common around here.  Folks work so hard to get around to law rather than just obeying.


Hard if not impossible to verify, to boot.  I can't tell you how many fake insurance cards I get (that is, when I do a VS.)
8/6/2006 5:34:09 AM EDT
[#17]
Couple of years ago, I got T-boned going thru an intersection. Totaled my car. Nobody really hurt. I got the ticket because a "witness" said I took the red. (not, but that's another story) A friend recommended I contact a traffic attorney. 1 meeting with her, 1 visit to pickup a form, and $74 ... case dimissed. BEST $ I ever spent.     My 2c.
Stay safe
8/6/2006 5:49:17 AM EDT
[#18]
I'm not an LEO, but I prefer deferred Adjudication over the defensive driving course. The difference is, while defensive driving or traffic school may remove your points, the offense still goes on your driving record.

With deferred adjudication, it never goes on your driving record if you meet the terms. Basically you make a deal that if you go proabation for 90 days and get no violations during that period, it is dismissed and never goes on your state record. The down side is, if you do, they can yank your license, although I have never heard of that happening. In most Texas jurisdictions, you can do it once every 3 years per jurisdiction.


I don't get a lot of tickets, but when I do, deferred Adjudication keeps it off my driving record. You still pay the ticket, and an additional fee, but worth it IMO.

Ask about it when you go to pay the ticket.